Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?

2010-04-05 Thread S Roberts
Hello Warren,

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:04:19 -0600 (MDT)
Warren Block  wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, S Roberts wrote:
> 
> > This is a new, windows 7 preinstalled machine that came with **NO**
> > windows 7 install disks.
> 
> It's nice to make the first boot of a factory-fresh system from a
> backup CD like clonezilla and back up all of the partitions on the
> drive. That's before allowing them to boot into the manufacturer
> Windows setup.
> 

I can imagine.

The machine was set up with the windows 7 install on half of the disk,
and is already set up with the work-related commercial apps (visio, ip
comm, borland, etc) that I can't get away from, so I am where I am at
the moment as far as the window 7 section of this dual-boot plan is
concerned.

From where I sit, with (at least) three PRs already in for
sysinstall's broken boot manager config, and with one going back as far
as 2005, its not looking likely that anyone is interested in fixing this
problem anytime soon.

Thanks.

Regards,

S Roberts

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> 
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Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?

2010-04-05 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, S Roberts wrote:


This is a new, windows 7 preinstalled machine that came with **NO**
windows 7 install disks.


It's nice to make the first boot of a factory-fresh system from a backup 
CD like clonezilla and back up all of the partitions on the drive. 
That's before allowing them to boot into the manufacturer Windows setup.


(PS: please trim your responses.  Thanks.)

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Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?

2010-04-05 Thread S Roberts
Hello Masoom,

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:56:39 +0530
Masoom Shaikh  wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:13 PM, S Roberts 
> wrote:
> > Hello Masoom,
> >
> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:54:12 +0530
> > Masoom Shaikh  wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, S Roberts
> >>  wrote:
> >> > Hi Masoom,
> >> >   Good to hear from you..,
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530
> >> > Masoom Shaikh  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >> > Hello Leslie,
> >> >> >      Good to hear from you..,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229158.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> /Leslie
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I had a look at the thread - thanks..,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that
> >> >> > its compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that
> >> >> > actually states that it supports windows 7.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off
> >> > with a pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then
> >> > **added** FreeBSD, please?
> >>
> >> Win7 was not pre-installed. I have three partitions,
> >> part1(c:) - NTFS
> >> part2(d:) - FAT32
> >> part3 - UFS2, not visible to Win7, visible in Disk Management
> >> console as free space
> >>
> >> Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes
> >> can read/write do not want to use fusefs
> >>
> >> first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use
> >> EasyBCD to add FreeBSD as another entry
> >> remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR.
> >>
> >
> > Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None
> > Leave Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did
> > **NOT** find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the
> > mbr?
> >
> > Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few
> > people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected,
> > and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs.
> 
> yes,
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-April/056100.html
> thread is actually correct, for me it is fresh install, in your case
> it is little tricky to get it straight for a fresh install you can
> install FreeBSD first then Win7, and then use EasyBSD. done.
> 

Wiping the machine as you suggest is not an option. 

This is a new, windows 7 preinstalled machine that came with **NO**
windows 7 install disks.

> i guess, i have done that too. i.e. installed FreeBSD after Win7, then
> used Win7 CD to repair
> but take care, it can fail with that irritating send, don't send
> dialog box
> 

I'd have like to have known this earlier.., I wasn't set to start until
later this evening, so I guess its good to have found this out now.

> so here is one trick if you got guts to try :). I recently got saved
> with this trick
> 
> you have Win7 pre-installed, now free up some space and let FreeBSD
> install, select the option "do not touch mbr". Next boot you will find
> Win7 gone. Boot from Win7 CD and let it install at same location where
> it is/was installed. Setup will warn you of already existing
> installation. It might additionally say that it will move old
> installation to "Windows.old" folder. Ignore this warning and let
> setup continue. If I remember correctly the second option is
> Extracting Windows Files(percentage). Let it come to second step and
> execute it for a 5 mins, then cancel the setup, ignore all warning and
> it will undo all changes, but by that time it will already have fixed
> the bootloader problem. After you cancel setup, give it all time it
> needs to undo, don't force reboot/power down.
> 
> hope this will enable you too install FreeBSD, a great development
> environment have fun!
> 

As I said above, the machine did not come with windows 7 installation
media included.

W Block earlier referred to the sysinstall mbr issue as a "rare bug",
but if you have yourself encountered this bug 6 months ago, then it
would appear to have been broken for a long time.

A search of PRs show;
Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:37:58 GMT: bin/86600: sysinstall(8): Sysinstall
boot manager screen is misleading

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:03:41 -0800 (PST): bin/121124: sysinstall(8):
FreeBSD 6.3 installation deletes MBR partition

Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:11:51 GMT: bin/129771: sysinstall(8): 7.1 RC1
sysinstalls installs boot0 even when told not to

I've been managing FreeBSD servers for years now, so I guess this type
of issue did slip through my attention gap - even so, going by the
earliest date there, seems like this ball has been dropping for a long
time :-/

Thanks for the suggestions, Masoom.

Regards,

S Roberts

> >
> > Thanks again, Masoom.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > S Roberts
> >
> >> have fun!!
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD

Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?

2010-04-05 Thread Leslie Jensen



so here is one trick if you got guts to try :). I recently got saved
with this trick

you have Win7 pre-installed, now free up some space and let FreeBSD
install, select the option "do not touch mbr". Next boot you will find
Win7 gone. Boot from Win7 CD and let it install at same location where
it is/was installed. Setup will warn you of already existing
installation. It might additionally say that it will move old
installation to "Windows.old" folder. Ignore this warning and let
setup continue. If I remember correctly the second option is
Extracting Windows Files(percentage). Let it come to second step and
execute it for a 5 mins, then cancel the setup, ignore all warning and
it will undo all changes, but by that time it will already have fixed
the bootloader problem. After you cancel setup, give it all time it
needs to undo, don't force reboot/power down.

hope this will enable you too install FreeBSD, a great development environment
have fun!


I would use the fixboot command to fix this, or boot from PartedMagic CD 
and set the boot flag on that partition.


/Leslie

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Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?

2010-04-05 Thread Masoom Shaikh
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:13 PM, S Roberts  wrote:
> Hello Masoom,
>
> On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:54:12 +0530
> Masoom Shaikh  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, S Roberts 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Masoom,
>> >   Good to hear from you..,
>> >
>> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530
>> > Masoom Shaikh  wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> > Hello Leslie,
>> >> >      Good to hear from you..,
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229158.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> /Leslie
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I had a look at the thread - thanks..,
>> >> >
>> >> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that
>> >> > its compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually
>> >> > states that it supports windows 7.
>> >>
>> >> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now
>> >>
>> >
>> > That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a
>> > pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added**
>> > FreeBSD, please?
>>
>> Win7 was not pre-installed. I have three partitions,
>> part1(c:) - NTFS
>> part2(d:) - FAT32
>> part3 - UFS2, not visible to Win7, visible in Disk Management console
>> as free space
>>
>> Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes can
>> read/write do not want to use fusefs
>>
>> first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use EasyBCD to
>> add FreeBSD as another entry
>> remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR.
>>
>
> Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None Leave
> Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did **NOT**
> find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the mbr?
>
> Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few
> people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected,
> and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs.

yes, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-April/056100.html
thread is actually correct,
for me it is fresh install, in your case it is little tricky to get it straight
for a fresh install you can install FreeBSD first then Win7, and then
use EasyBSD. done.

i guess, i have done that too. i.e. installed FreeBSD after Win7, then
used Win7 CD to repair
but take care, it can fail with that irritating send, don't send dialog box

so here is one trick if you got guts to try :). I recently got saved
with this trick

you have Win7 pre-installed, now free up some space and let FreeBSD
install, select the option "do not touch mbr". Next boot you will find
Win7 gone. Boot from Win7 CD and let it install at same location where
it is/was installed. Setup will warn you of already existing
installation. It might additionally say that it will move old
installation to "Windows.old" folder. Ignore this warning and let
setup continue. If I remember correctly the second option is
Extracting Windows Files(percentage). Let it come to second step and
execute it for a 5 mins, then cancel the setup, ignore all warning and
it will undo all changes, but by that time it will already have fixed
the bootloader problem. After you cancel setup, give it all time it
needs to undo, don't force reboot/power down.

hope this will enable you too install FreeBSD, a great development environment
have fun!

>
> Thanks again, Masoom.
>
> Regards,
>
> S Roberts
>
>> have fun!!
>>
>> >
>> > Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options did
>> > you select, please?
>>
>> don't let FreeBSD touch your MBR, Win7 won't like that
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > S Roberts
>> >
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Or, am I missing something?
>> >> >
>> >> > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers
>> >> > to a document that is based on windows vista, but will review
>> >> > this as well.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks!
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> > S Roberts
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hello,
>> >> >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to
>> >> >> > where I can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7
>> >> >> > pre-installed machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up,
>> >> >> > please?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Any assistance is appreciated.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Regards,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > S Roberts
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Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?

2010-04-05 Thread S Roberts
Hello Warren,
  Great to hear from you..,

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:10:47 -0600 (MDT)
Warren Block  wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, S Roberts wrote:
> > Hello Masoom,
> >
>  I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now
> >>>
> >>> That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with
> >>> a pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added**
> >>> FreeBSD, please?
> 
> EasyBCD worked for me on a preinstalled Vista machine, adding FreeBSD
> 8. And of course Vista is just Win7 alpha.
> 

Understood - only realized this over the past 24 hours.,

> >> Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes
> >> can read/write do not want to use fusefs
> >>
> >> first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use
> >> EasyBCD to add FreeBSD as another entry
> >> remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR.
> >>
> >
> > Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None
> > Leave Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did
> > **NOT** find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the
> > mbr?
> 
> No problem for me.
> 
> > Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few
> > people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected,
> > and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs.
> 
> There's a relatively rare bug in sysinstall, but even if there
> wasn't, you should still back up the existing MBR and the whole
> Windows partition before you add another OS.
> 
> For backup, you can use the FreeBSD livefs and dd, but clonezilla or 
> partimage are faster.  Clonezilla automatically saves a separate copy
> of the MBR, AFAIR.
> 

That's excellent information. I was unsure of the status of
sysinstall's integrity as far as the efficacy of these option
selections.

Will have a go shortly.

Regards,

S Roberts

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> http://sysresccd.org/Main_Page
> 
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Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?

2010-04-05 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, S Roberts wrote:

Hello Masoom,


I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now


That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a
pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added**
FreeBSD, please?


EasyBCD worked for me on a preinstalled Vista machine, adding FreeBSD 8. 
And of course Vista is just Win7 alpha.



Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes can
read/write do not want to use fusefs

first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use EasyBCD to
add FreeBSD as another entry
remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR.



Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None Leave
Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did **NOT**
find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the mbr?


No problem for me.


Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few
people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected,
and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs.


There's a relatively rare bug in sysinstall, but even if there wasn't, 
you should still back up the existing MBR and the whole Windows 
partition before you add another OS.


For backup, you can use the FreeBSD livefs and dd, but clonezilla or 
partimage are faster.  Clonezilla automatically saves a separate copy of 
the MBR, AFAIR.


http://www.clonezilla.org/
http://sysresccd.org/Main_Page

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?

2010-04-05 Thread S Roberts
Hello Masoom,

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:54:12 +0530
Masoom Shaikh  wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, S Roberts 
> wrote:
> > Hi Masoom,
> >   Good to hear from you..,
> >
> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530
> > Masoom Shaikh  wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts
> >>  wrote:
> >> > Hello Leslie,
> >> >      Good to hear from you..,
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229158.html
> >> >>
> >> >> /Leslie
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I had a look at the thread - thanks..,
> >> >
> >> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that
> >> > its compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually
> >> > states that it supports windows 7.
> >>
> >> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now
> >>
> >
> > That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a
> > pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added**
> > FreeBSD, please?
> 
> Win7 was not pre-installed. I have three partitions,
> part1(c:) - NTFS
> part2(d:) - FAT32
> part3 - UFS2, not visible to Win7, visible in Disk Management console
> as free space
> 
> Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes can
> read/write do not want to use fusefs
> 
> first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use EasyBCD to
> add FreeBSD as another entry
> remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR.
> 

Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None Leave
Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did **NOT**
find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the mbr?

Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few
people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected,
and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs.

Thanks again, Masoom.

Regards,

S Roberts

> have fun!!
> 
> >
> > Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options did
> > you select, please?
> 
> don't let FreeBSD touch your MBR, Win7 won't like that
> 
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > S Roberts
> >
> >
> >> >
> >> > Or, am I missing something?
> >> >
> >> > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers
> >> > to a document that is based on windows vista, but will review
> >> > this as well.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > S Roberts
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hello,
> >> >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to
> >> >> > where I can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7
> >> >> > pre-installed machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up,
> >> >> > please?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Any assistance is appreciated.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > S Roberts
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Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?

2010-04-05 Thread S Roberts
Hello Masoom,

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:54:12 +0530
Masoom Shaikh  wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, S Roberts 
> wrote:
> > Hi Masoom,
> >   Good to hear from you..,
> >
> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530
> > Masoom Shaikh  wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts
> >>  wrote:
> >> > Hello Leslie,
> >> >      Good to hear from you..,
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229158.html
> >> >>
> >> >> /Leslie
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I had a look at the thread - thanks..,
> >> >
> >> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that
> >> > its compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually
> >> > states that it supports windows 7.
> >>
> >> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now
> >>
> >
> > That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a
> > pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added**
> > FreeBSD, please?
> 
> Win7 was not pre-installed. I have three partitions,
> part1(c:) - NTFS
> part2(d:) - FAT32
> part3 - UFS2, not visible to Win7, visible in Disk Management console
> as free space
> 
> Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes can
> read/write do not want to use fusefs
> 
> first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use EasyBCD to
> add FreeBSD as another entry
> remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR.
> 

Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None Leave
Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did **NOT**
find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the mbr?

Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few
people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected,
and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs.

Thanks again, Masoom.

Regards,

S Roberts

> have fun!!
> 
> >
> > Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options did
> > you select, please?
> 
> don't let FreeBSD touch your MBR, Win7 won't like that
> 
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > S Roberts
> >
> >
> >> >
> >> > Or, am I missing something?
> >> >
> >> > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers
> >> > to a document that is based on windows vista, but will review
> >> > this as well.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > S Roberts
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hello,
> >> >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to
> >> >> > where I can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7
> >> >> > pre-installed machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up,
> >> >> > please?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Any assistance is appreciated.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > S Roberts
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Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?

2010-04-05 Thread Masoom Shaikh
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, S Roberts  wrote:
> Hi Masoom,
>   Good to hear from you..,
>
> On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530
> Masoom Shaikh  wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts
>>  wrote:
>> > Hello Leslie,
>> >      Good to hear from you..,
>> >
>> > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229158.html
>> >>
>> >> /Leslie
>> >>
>> >
>> > I had a look at the thread - thanks..,
>> >
>> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that its
>> > compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually
>> > states that it supports windows 7.
>>
>> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now
>>
>
> That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a
> pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added**
> FreeBSD, please?

Win7 was not pre-installed. I have three partitions,
part1(c:) - NTFS
part2(d:) - FAT32
part3 - UFS2, not visible to Win7, visible in Disk Management console
as free space

Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes can read/write
do not want to use fusefs

first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use EasyBCD to
add FreeBSD as another entry
remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR.

have fun!!

>
> Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options did you
> select, please?

don't let FreeBSD touch your MBR, Win7 won't like that

>
> Thanks!
>
> Regards,
>
> S Roberts
>
>
>> >
>> > Or, am I missing something?
>> >
>> > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers to
>> > a document that is based on windows vista, but will review this as
>> > well.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > S Roberts
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to
>> >> > where I can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7
>> >> > pre-installed machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up,
>> >> > please?
>> >> >
>> >> > Any assistance is appreciated.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> > S Roberts
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Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?

2010-04-05 Thread S Roberts
Hi Masoom,
   Good to hear from you..,

On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530
Masoom Shaikh  wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts
>  wrote:
> > Hello Leslie,
> >      Good to hear from you..,
> >
> > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote:
> >>
> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229158.html
> >>
> >> /Leslie
> >>
> >
> > I had a look at the thread - thanks..,
> >
> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that its
> > compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually
> > states that it supports windows 7.
> 
> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now
> 

That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a
pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added**
FreeBSD, please?

Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options did you
select, please?

Thanks!

Regards,

S Roberts


> >
> > Or, am I missing something?
> >
> > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers to
> > a document that is based on windows vista, but will review this as
> > well.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > S Roberts
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hello,
> >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to
> >> > where I can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7
> >> > pre-installed machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up,
> >> > please?
> >> >
> >> > Any assistance is appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > S Roberts
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Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?

2010-04-05 Thread Masoom Shaikh
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts
 wrote:
> Hello Leslie,
>      Good to hear from you..,
>
> On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote:
>>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229158.html
>>
>> /Leslie
>>
>
> I had a look at the thread - thanks..,
>
> The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that its
> compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually states that it
> supports windows 7.

I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now

>
> Or, am I missing something?
>
> I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers to a
> document that is based on windows vista, but will review this as well.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Regards,
>
> S Roberts
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hello,
>> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to where I
>> > can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7 pre-installed
>> > machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up, please?
>> >
>> > Any assistance is appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > S Roberts
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Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?

2010-04-04 Thread Stacey Roberts
Hello Svein,
  Good to hear from you..,

On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Svein Skogen (Listmail Account) wrote:

> On 04.04.2010 11:22, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that its
> > compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually states that it
> > supports windows 7.
> > 
> > Or, am I missing something?
> 
> BCD was the boot mechanism introduced with Vista and Server 2008, and
> continued in Windows 7 (actually 6.1) and Server 2008r2.
> 


Ahh.., Understood.

Thank so much for that..,

Regards,

S Roberts


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Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?

2010-04-04 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)
On 04.04.2010 11:22, Stacey Roberts wrote:
> The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that its
> compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually states that it
> supports windows 7.
> 
> Or, am I missing something?

BCD was the boot mechanism introduced with Vista and Server 2008, and
continued in Windows 7 (actually 6.1) and Server 2008r2.

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Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?

2010-04-04 Thread Stacey Roberts
Hello Leslie,
  Good to hear from you..,

On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229158.html
> 
> /Leslie
> 

I had a look at the thread - thanks..,

The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that its
compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually states that it
supports windows 7.

Or, am I missing something?

I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also refers to a
document that is based on windows vista, but will review this as well.

Thanks!

Regards,

S Roberts


> 
> 
> 
> > Hello,
> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to where I
> > can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7 pre-installed
> > machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up, please?
> >
> > Any assistance is appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > S Roberts
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Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?

2010-04-03 Thread Leslie Jensen


You can read this tread:


http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229158.html

/Leslie




> Hello,
> Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to where I
> can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7 pre-installed
> machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up, please?
>
> Any assistance is appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
>
> S Roberts
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FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?

2010-04-03 Thread S Roberts
Hello,
Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me to where I
can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a windows-7 pre-installed
machine (single disk) in a dual-boot set up, please?

Any assistance is appreciated.

Thanks.

Regards,

S Roberts
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