Re: CPIO compatibility with Freebsd 8[.1]
'usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/__init__.pyo' usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/__init__.pyc: Can't create 'usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/__init__.pyc' usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/support.py: Can't create 'usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/support.py' usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/support.pyo: Can't create 'usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/support.pyo' usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/support.pyc: Can't create 'usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/support.pyc' [snip] how about --make-directories? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
CPIO compatibility with Freebsd 8[.1]
Hi all. I recently noticed that I could not extract a cpio archive that I have on my Freebsd 8.0 machine. I thought that the archive might be corrupt so I compared the md5sum to a backup that I have and it was fine. I then tried to extract the archive on Freebsd 7.2 and it extracted without problems. I then tried on a Freebsd 8.1 system and I get the errors again. My archive is actually the output of a nanobsd build that someone created for me. So as root I do cpio -i ../_.fsimg And as the output shows it can't create many files. usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/__init__.py: Can't create 'usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/__init__.py' usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/__init__.pyo: Can't create 'usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/__init__.pyo' usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/__init__.pyc: Can't create 'usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/__init__.pyc' usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/support.py: Can't create 'usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/support.py' usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/support.pyo: Can't create 'usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/support.pyo' usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/support.pyc: Can't create 'usr/local/lib/python2.6/distutils/tests/support.pyc' [snip] Does anyone know why this might be happening? Are there compatibility changes with cpio? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Pico ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Backing up freebsd to 1 file?
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Subject: Backing up freebsd to 1 file?
I have a freebsd 8.0 install and was wondering if it is possible to tar
up the entire install...for backup purposes.
# cd /
# tar -cvf backup.tar {list of directories}
then I can ftp the tar file out to another machine.
This works in theory, but if I need to do a restore tar complains
on 'tar -xpf backup.tar'.
Under OpenBSD, this works as expected. It has given me an easy way
to backup/move/restore or anything I want to do w/o complaining.
I am running Freebsd on a machine that has no other drives/tapes or
anything so my options for backup are limited.
All I am trying to do is get a complete image (or snapshot) of my
entire
install on this machine and then if I needed to reload or reinstall, I
could do a bare bones freebsd install, copy over the tar'd up file and
extract it from within / and then reboot an I would be go to go.
Thoughts on this would be appreciated...
Perhaps http://ra.phid.ae/stuff/mm-backup-0.9.sh.txt has something that you
like.
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Re: Backing up freebsd to 1 file?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19/04/2010 06:52:29, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: but I use zfs and I think that during shutdown, /etc/rc.d/zfs is called stop so it unmounts all zfs partition... (I did not tested...)... so It must be called /etc/rc.d/zfs start again... (just a few inconvenient...) That's actually a very interesting point, and as far as I can tell from looking at the rc scripts, what you describe is exactly what would happen. Now wondering how a pure-ZFS system manages going to single user. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvL/s4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzoUQCfYFhoGDPr4bN3SO9PXLp6U54W 6moAn1fxKG+7Xp+76xNwzUdF6mAGxd9u =RgU6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backing up freebsd to 1 file?
Sergio == Sergio de Almeida Lenzi lenzi.ser...@gmail.com writes: It kills everything ungracefully and will screw up anything that needs to sync state to disk -- like mysql. Just use shutdown(8): it's what it's there for. # shutdown now Going single user to make backups Cheers, Matthew Sergio Ok you are right... Sergio for me worked because I never use mysql... Sergio but I use zfs and I think that during shutdown, /etc/rc.d/zfs is Sergio called stop Sergio so it unmounts all zfs partition... (I did not tested...)... Nope. shutdown doesn't appear in /etc/rc.d/zfs keywords, so it won't get stop during normal shutdown. That must happen later. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backing up freebsd to 1 file?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19/04/2010 16:16:21, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Nope. shutdown doesn't appear in /etc/rc.d/zfs keywords, so it won't get stop during normal shutdown. That must happen later. Dammit. I know this really -- but for some reason i had it in my head that the keyword was 'noshutdown' with exactly the opposite semantics. You're entirely correct. D'Oh! Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvMjroACgkQ8Mjk52CukIz1xwCfQSfxlb1f14A/dxwlemUw0rV9 gtIAmwR4rM7Xge3PlzKEW46hipRMpOhV =5SjO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backing up freebsd to 1 file?
On 18 April 2010 15:56, J.D. Bronson jd_bron...@sbcglobal.net wrote: be created by the time your system boots on. Nice answer by Sergio, but I personally would use the j option with tar to compress to bzip2; 3) tar --one-file-system -cvjf /mnt/backup.tbz ./ var usr home Though I prefer personally to use dump/restore because: - If you're on UFS, you don't have to single-user the system, just use the L option (live filesystem) - Restore has an awesome 'interactive' mode - See Zwicky [1] I'll send you my dump scripts if you're interested. It's dead easy to use! Chris [1] http://www.coredumps.de/doc/dump/zwicky/testdump.doc.html . I think Sergio has a nice script. I had been doing something similar but I know I recall when untarring (restoring if you will) it was complaining about not being able to do things. It was not sockets and similar stuff that gets rebuilt on reboot. I do not have failures handy to post (yet). Truth be told? - I am running FreeBSD hosts within ESXi. I can backup the hosts within ESXi but need to take the host offline and its a cumbersome ordeal. If I had RAID on ESXi, I wouldn't be so worried per se but this is not an option. ESXi is very fussy about what is supported and I dont have the $ for SCSI and SCSI Raid. Basically what I need to do is create a fully restorable backup for 2 reasons: 1. Easy to create another host on ESXi. I can setup/flavor my fbsd install and then once thats done, setup another host. 2. Obvious backup reasons. ...right now, if the SATA drive fails that is hosting the fbsd install I am dead in the water. I have 5 hosts on this machine spread across 4 SATA drives but nothing is mirrored or RAIDed in anyway. I am at the mercy of these drives w/o any backup- Yeah, use dump. It's excellent, and you can bz2 the results. My script for dumping: #!/bin/sh # $Id: backuphdd.sh,v 1.3 2010/02/02 13:02:06 root Exp $ # $Log: backuphdd.sh,v $ # Revision 1.3 2010/02/02 13:02:06 root # Changed so that backup/spare is only manipulated when backup level is 0 # # Revision 1.2 2009/12/22 16:13:05 root # Now uses bzip2 LEVEL=$1 mount /backup/dumps mv /backup/dumps/root_level_$LEVEL.bz2 /backup/dumps/root_level_$LEVEL.bz2.old dump -$LEVEL -Lauf - / | bzip2 /backup/dumps/root_level_$LEVEL.bz2 mv /backup/dumps/var_level_$LEVEL.bz2 /backup/dumps/var_level_$LEVEL.bz2.old dump -$LEVEL -Lauf - /var | bzip2 /backup/dumps/var_level_$LEVEL.bz2 mv /backup/dumps/usr_level_$LEVEL.bz2 /backup/dumps/usr_level_$LEVEL.bz2.old dump -$LEVEL -Lauf - /usr | bzip2 /backup/dumps/usr_level_$LEVEL.bz2 umount /backup/dumps ---end I call it from cron ~3 in the morning with a tower of hanoi rotation; it takes the argument to the script as the dump level; /root/backuphdd.sh 0 performs a level 0 dump of all the drives. Don't forget to back up _all_ your partitions! Dump only backs up separate partitions... Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Backing up freebsd to 1 file?
I have a freebsd 8.0 install and was wondering if it is possible to tar
up the entire install...for backup purposes.
# cd /
# tar -cvf backup.tar {list of directories}
then I can ftp the tar file out to another machine.
This works in theory, but if I need to do a restore tar complains
on 'tar -xpf backup.tar'.
Under OpenBSD, this works as expected. It has given me an easy way
to backup/move/restore or anything I want to do w/o complaining.
I am running Freebsd on a machine that has no other drives/tapes or
anything so my options for backup are limited.
All I am trying to do is get a complete image (or snapshot) of my entire
install on this machine and then if I needed to reload or reinstall, I
could do a bare bones freebsd install, copy over the tar'd up file and
extract it from within / and then reboot an I would be go to go.
Thoughts on this would be appreciated...
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Re: Backing up freebsd to 1 file?
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 08:23:12 -0500, J.D. Bronson jd_bron...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
I have a freebsd 8.0 install and was wondering if it is possible to tar
up the entire install...for backup purposes.
# cd /
# tar -cvf backup.tar {list of directories}
then I can ftp the tar file out to another machine.
This works in theory, but if I need to do a restore tar complains
on 'tar -xpf backup.tar'.
In this case, you're better using dump partition-wise, or
just use dd to copy the whole disk - this may lead to large
files, so adding compression is often useful.
Under OpenBSD, this works as expected. It has given me an easy way
to backup/move/restore or anything I want to do w/o complaining.
What exact complains are output by FreeBSD's tar?
I am running Freebsd on a machine that has no other drives/tapes or
anything so my options for backup are limited.
Note that dumping / restoring (especially restoring) is more
easy to be done by booting from a live system (e. g. via CD,
DVD or USB).
All I am trying to do is get a complete image (or snapshot) of my entire
install on this machine and then if I needed to reload or reinstall, I
could do a bare bones freebsd install, copy over the tar'd up file and
extract it from within / and then reboot an I would be go to go.
Well... tar is not so good suited for that. There are things
at file system level that are important to the system, but are
not honored by the tar utility. In this case, dump + restore
provide excellent means for what you're intending. In case of
a failure, use a FreeBSD boot medium with sysinstall or sade
to prepare the disk (slice, partition, newfs), then restore
the dump files to the partitions, reboot, and it's done.
Of course, dd provides an exact 1:1 copy, and you can choose
to copy partitions, slices, or a whole disk. The dump and
restore programs operate on file systems (partitions), while
tar operates on files.
Thoughts on this would be appreciated...
There are some threads in the archives about how to backup
or clone a whole system. You'll find some more inspirations
and considerations there.
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Re: Backing up freebsd to 1 file?
I am very happy with the folowing Supose that you have mount ANOTHER device on /mnt 1) mount /dev/ /mnt 2) init 1 (this closes all applications and drop into single user) 3) tar --one-file-system -cvzf /mnt/backup.tar.gz ./ var usr home 4) umount /mnt 5) exit (reboot from single user to normal operation) === on restore... supose you install a FBSD minimal from the CD/usb. 1) mount /dev/ /mnt 2) tar -xpvf /mnt/backup.tar.gz -C / 3) umount /mnt ===you have restored your system= may be some files (sockets...) are not restored but no problem as they will be created by the time your system boots on. Sergio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backing up freebsd to 1 file?
you can migrate to zfs and then create snapshot of whole disk, import
this snapshot (e.g. via ssh) and then restore it back.
Good luck.
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On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 3:23 PM, J.D. Bronson jd_bron...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I have a freebsd 8.0 install and was wondering if it is possible to tar up
the entire install...for backup purposes.
# cd /
# tar -cvf backup.tar {list of directories}
then I can ftp the tar file out to another machine.
This works in theory, but if I need to do a restore tar complains
on 'tar -xpf backup.tar'.
Under OpenBSD, this works as expected. It has given me an easy way
to backup/move/restore or anything I want to do w/o complaining.
I am running Freebsd on a machine that has no other drives/tapes or anything
so my options for backup are limited.
All I am trying to do is get a complete image (or snapshot) of my entire
install on this machine and then if I needed to reload or reinstall, I could
do a bare bones freebsd install, copy over the tar'd up file and extract it
from within / and then reboot an I would be go to go.
Thoughts on this would be appreciated...
--
J.D. Bronson
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Re: Backing up freebsd to 1 file?
On 18 April 2010 15:37, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi lenzi.ser...@gmail.com wrote: I am very happy with the folowing Supose that you have mount ANOTHER device on /mnt 1) mount /dev/ /mnt 2) init 1 (this closes all applications and drop into single user) 3) tar --one-file-system -cvzf /mnt/backup.tar.gz ./ var usr home 4) umount /mnt 5) exit (reboot from single user to normal operation) === on restore... supose you install a FBSD minimal from the CD/usb. 1) mount /dev/ /mnt 2) tar -xpvf /mnt/backup.tar.gz -C / 3) umount /mnt ===you have restored your system= may be some files (sockets...) are not restored but no problem as they will be created by the time your system boots on. Nice answer by Sergio, but I personally would use the j option with tar to compress to bzip2; 3) tar --one-file-system -cvjf /mnt/backup.tbz ./ var usr home Though I prefer personally to use dump/restore because: - If you're on UFS, you don't have to single-user the system, just use the L option (live filesystem) - Restore has an awesome 'interactive' mode - See Zwicky [1] I'll send you my dump scripts if you're interested. It's dead easy to use! Chris [1] http://www.coredumps.de/doc/dump/zwicky/testdump.doc.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backing up freebsd to 1 file?
be created by the time your system boots on. Nice answer by Sergio, but I personally would use the j option with tar to compress to bzip2; 3) tar --one-file-system -cvjf /mnt/backup.tbz ./ var usr home Though I prefer personally to use dump/restore because: - If you're on UFS, you don't have to single-user the system, just use the L option (live filesystem) - Restore has an awesome 'interactive' mode - See Zwicky [1] I'll send you my dump scripts if you're interested. It's dead easy to use! Chris [1] http://www.coredumps.de/doc/dump/zwicky/testdump.doc.html . I think Sergio has a nice script. I had been doing something similar but I know I recall when untarring (restoring if you will) it was complaining about not being able to do things. It was not sockets and similar stuff that gets rebuilt on reboot. I do not have failures handy to post (yet). Truth be told? - I am running FreeBSD hosts within ESXi. I can backup the hosts within ESXi but need to take the host offline and its a cumbersome ordeal. If I had RAID on ESXi, I wouldn't be so worried per se but this is not an option. ESXi is very fussy about what is supported and I dont have the $ for SCSI and SCSI Raid. Basically what I need to do is create a fully restorable backup for 2 reasons: 1. Easy to create another host on ESXi. I can setup/flavor my fbsd install and then once thats done, setup another host. 2. Obvious backup reasons. ...right now, if the SATA drive fails that is hosting the fbsd install I am dead in the water. I have 5 hosts on this machine spread across 4 SATA drives but nothing is mirrored or RAIDed in anyway. I am at the mercy of these drives w/o any backup- -- J.D. Bronson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backing up freebsd to 1 file?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18/04/2010 15:37:03, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: 2) init 1 (this closes all applications and drop into single user) It kills everything ungracefully and will screw up anything that needs to sync state to disk -- like mysql. Just use shutdown(8): it's what it's there for. # shutdown now Going single user to make backups Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvLJY4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwq8QCfcu48NVNcs1SOsbtV+rZ98MeR hWkAniPX6+bOIx0ej3CXpT8gzNiKBUB/ =hQW3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backing up freebsd to 1 file?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18/04/2010 15:19:32, Jan Hlodan wrote: you can migrate to zfs and then create snapshot of whole disk, import this snapshot (e.g. via ssh) and then restore it back. You can create snapshots with UFS too. It's a good way of getting a reasonably consistent backup without having to shut the whole system down. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvLJgMACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzreQCeJBZYMx2Zi1QGq0K76mUD39/x /LgAnAx44eaGLZjNP9eOg9HyOyeR7CYO =/mZk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backing up freebsd to 1 file?
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010, J.D. Bronson wrote:
I have a freebsd 8.0 install and was wondering if it is possible to tar up
the entire install...for backup purposes.
# cd /
# tar -cvf backup.tar {list of directories}
then I can ftp the tar file out to another machine.
This works in theory, but if I need to do a restore tar complains
on 'tar -xpf backup.tar'.
As others have mentioned, tar is not well suited for this.
Under OpenBSD, this works as expected. It has given me an easy way
to backup/move/restore or anything I want to do w/o complaining.
I am running Freebsd on a machine that has no other drives/tapes or anything
so my options for backup are limited.
All I am trying to do is get a complete image (or snapshot) of my entire
install on this machine and then if I needed to reload or reinstall, I could
do a bare bones freebsd install, copy over the tar'd up file and extract it
from within / and then reboot an I would be go to go.
If you don't have any other drives, where will the backup file be stored
so it survives a system failure or reinstall?
Thoughts on this would be appreciated...
dump/restore is the standard safe way; you can send it over ssh to back
up to a file on another machine. Sometimes people use dd, which can be
effective if you use some tricks like filling unused space with zero so
compression is effective.
There's another option. I've mentioned clonezilla.org here before as a
way to back up Windows systems; it's fast and only copies used sectors.
Newer beta versions of clonezilla now support UFS directly, so they can
back up FreeBSD disks. This is nice because it also backs up the MBR,
and splits the backup files into 2G increments. It may also be faster
than dump/restore. Note that I only noticed the UFS mode lately and
have only tried it once so far, so no real experience on how safe it is
yet.
-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: Backing up freebsd to 1 file?
On 4/18/10 10:39 AM, Warren Block wrote: If you don't have any other drives, where will the backup file be stored so it survives a system failure or reinstall? Thoughts on this would be appreciated... dump/restore is the standard safe way; you can send it over ssh to back up to a file on another machine. Sometimes people use dd, which can be effective if you use some tricks like filling unused space with zero so compression is effective. There's another option. I've mentioned clonezilla.org here before as a way to back up Windows systems; it's fast and only copies used sectors. I would sftp/scp the file over to another unix (or windows via samba) machine I have. Then burn the resulting file to DVD RW media. -- J.D. Bronson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Backing up freebsd to 1 file?
It kills everything ungracefully and will screw up anything that needs to sync state to disk -- like mysql. Just use shutdown(8): it's what it's there for. # shutdown now Going single user to make backups Cheers, Matthew Ok you are right... for me worked because I never use mysql... but I use zfs and I think that during shutdown, /etc/rc.d/zfs is called stop so it unmounts all zfs partition... (I did not tested...)... so It must be called /etc/rc.d/zfs start again... (just a few inconvenient...) Thanks for the tip Sergio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD is #1
Heh, FreeBSD is #1 to me because it is the most painless operating system I've ever used... Ignoring the 5.x installer. Never used pre-5.x -Jim On 6/12/06, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freebsd 4.x no doubt :) --- Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this on Netcraft and thought I'd share it: Six Hosting Companies Most Reliable Hoster in May. Six hosting companies share the top spot this month, with INetU, Hostway, IPower, New York Internet, Pair Networks andTiscali all sharing the top spot as the most reliable hosting company site this month. The six-way tie is a first for the reliability survey, as three and even four providers have shared the top position in the past. The showing reflects a strong month for hosting reliability, as the winners each had just 0.01 percent of their DNS responses fail, just a hair short of a perfect showing. All six companies have finished atop the survey at least once previously. It was a particularly good month for providers hosting their home page on FreeBSD, four of whom (INetU, iPowerWeb, NY Internet and Pair Networks) shared the top spot with two hosts on Linux (Hostway and Tiscali). Overall, five Linux sites are found in the top 10 this month, four on FreeBSD and one on Windows. http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2006/06/06/six_hosting_companies_most_reliable_hoster_in_may.html Way to go FreeBSD!! Beech -- --- Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Alaska Paradise \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://www.alaskaparadise.com --- __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD is #1
On 6/12/06, Jim Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, FreeBSD is #1 to me because it is the most painless operating system I've ever used... Ignoring the 5.x installer. Never used pre-5.x -Jim What do you mean 5.x? FreeBSD never made 5.x. They went straight from 4 to 6 like everybody else. :-) Netscape 4 = 6 Linux 2.4 = 2.6 FreeBSD 4 = 6 It's a good thing we don't let computers pick version numbers, you might end up with FreeBSD 5.5 +/- sqrt(.36). -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD is #1
--- Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 12 June 2006 16:06, Danial Thom wrote: --- Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 02:36:24PM -0700, Danial Thom wrote: Freebsd 4.x no doubt :) At this point FreeBSD 6.x has had way more intensive stress testing and QA by the project than 4.x did. It is stable. Kris I'm not saying that its not, only that I know a lot of ISPs and more of them are running 4 than 6. In fact I know exactly 0 running 6. So proclaiming that Freebsd is #1 without qualifying what version they are running doesn't really say anything. While trying to introduce FreeBSD into a Micro$oft only house, I've heard the following many times: Never heard of FreeBSD and Show me some documentation and stats. Regardless of the actual version, the stats are accurate for those providers. They reflect overall uptime and connectivity. This isn't about version, it's about FreeBSD gaining a firmer foothold in a Micro$oft / Linux dominant world. Personally, I'll take all the help I can get. 'nuff said, Beech I couldn't disagree more. OS versions are like wine vintages. You can't proclaim that a '01 vintage of a wine is also great because a '99 got a great review. With FreeBSD, its even a bigger difference. The kernel is being torn apart to accommodate MP, and you have quite a different development team. DragonflyBSD is based on FreeBSD 4.x also, just as the current FreeBSD is based on 4.11, but you have 2 completely different animals in the making. Of couse you can trick stupid managers with such things, if that's your agenda. But you have a different problem in the commercial world. You can put an ad in the paper and get someone who knows how to administer an MS box (maybe competent), but for FreeBSD forget it. You can't staff an IT dept with FreeBSD gurus. And you can't just switch to FreeBSD because 1 guy in the dept happens to have some experience with it, because all of the other guys become dead wood (if they're not that already). Thats the big problem with getting penetration. DT __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD is #1
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 08:53, Nikolas Britton wrote: On 6/12/06, Jim Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, FreeBSD is #1 to me because it is the most painless operating system I've ever used... Ignoring the 5.x installer. Never used pre-5.x -Jim What do you mean 5.x? FreeBSD never made 5.x. They went straight from 4 to 6 like everybody else. :-) Netscape 4 = 6 Linux 2.4 = 2.6 FreeBSD 4 = 6 It's a good thing we don't let computers pick version numbers, you might end up with FreeBSD 5.5 +/- sqrt(.36). As much as I hate to continue this off-topic thread, I couldn't help but notice a glaring exclusion in your list: IPv4 = IPv6 JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD is #1
I found this on Netcraft and thought I'd share it: Six Hosting Companies Most Reliable Hoster in May. Six hosting companies share the top spot this month, with INetU, Hostway, IPower, New York Internet, Pair Networks andTiscali all sharing the top spot as the most reliable hosting company site this month. The six-way tie is a first for the reliability survey, as three and even four providers have shared the top position in the past. The showing reflects a strong month for hosting reliability, as the winners each had just 0.01 percent of their DNS responses fail, just a hair short of a perfect showing. All six companies have finished atop the survey at least once previously. It was a particularly good month for providers hosting their home page on FreeBSD, four of whom (INetU, iPowerWeb, NY Internet and Pair Networks) shared the top spot with two hosts on Linux (Hostway and Tiscali). Overall, five Linux sites are found in the top 10 this month, four on FreeBSD and one on Windows. http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2006/06/06/six_hosting_companies_most_reliable_hoster_in_may.html Way to go FreeBSD!! Beech -- --- Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Alaska Paradise \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://www.alaskaparadise.com --- pgp6h3rkHZY4S.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD is #1
Freebsd 4.x no doubt :) --- Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this on Netcraft and thought I'd share it: Six Hosting Companies Most Reliable Hoster in May. Six hosting companies share the top spot this month, with INetU, Hostway, IPower, New York Internet, Pair Networks andTiscali all sharing the top spot as the most reliable hosting company site this month. The six-way tie is a first for the reliability survey, as three and even four providers have shared the top position in the past. The showing reflects a strong month for hosting reliability, as the winners each had just 0.01 percent of their DNS responses fail, just a hair short of a perfect showing. All six companies have finished atop the survey at least once previously. It was a particularly good month for providers hosting their home page on FreeBSD, four of whom (INetU, iPowerWeb, NY Internet and Pair Networks) shared the top spot with two hosts on Linux (Hostway and Tiscali). Overall, five Linux sites are found in the top 10 this month, four on FreeBSD and one on Windows. http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2006/06/06/six_hosting_companies_most_reliable_hoster_in_may.html Way to go FreeBSD!! Beech -- --- Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Alaska Paradise \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://www.alaskaparadise.com --- __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD is #1
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 02:36:24PM -0700, Danial Thom wrote: Freebsd 4.x no doubt :) At this point FreeBSD 6.x has had way more intensive stress testing and QA by the project than 4.x did. It is stable. Kris pgp3Ibgo80nS3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD is #1
On Monday 12 June 2006 13:36, Danial Thom wrote: Freebsd 4.x no doubt :) --- Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this on Netcraft and thought I'd share it: Six Hosting Companies Most Reliable Hoster in May. Six hosting companies share the top spot this month, with INetU, Hostway, IPower, New York Internet, Pair Networks andTiscali all sharing the top spot as the most reliable hosting company site this month. The six-way tie is a first for the reliability survey, as three and even four providers have shared the top position in the past. The showing reflects a strong month for hosting reliability, as the winners each had just 0.01 percent of their DNS responses fail, just a hair short of a perfect showing. All six companies have finished atop the survey at least once previously. It was a particularly good month for providers hosting their home page on FreeBSD, four of whom (INetU, iPowerWeb, NY Internet and Pair Networks) shared the top spot with two hosts on Linux (Hostway and Tiscali). Overall, five Linux sites are found in the top 10 this month, four on FreeBSD and one on Windows. http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2006/06/06/six_hosting_companies_most_rel iable_hoster_in_may.html Way to go FreeBSD!! Beech Regardless of which version they're running, these kind of stats are invaluable when you're trying to convince some clueless manager that you want to switch their NT4 or 2K server to FreeBSD. --- Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Alaska Paradise \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://www.alaskaparadise.com --- pgpYXXXlUj7cl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD is #1
--- Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 02:36:24PM -0700, Danial Thom wrote: Freebsd 4.x no doubt :) At this point FreeBSD 6.x has had way more intensive stress testing and QA by the project than 4.x did. It is stable. Kris I'm not saying that its not, only that I know a lot of ISPs and more of them are running 4 than 6. In fact I know exactly 0 running 6. So proclaiming that Freebsd is #1 without qualifying what version they are running doesn't really say anything. DT __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD is #1
On Monday 12 June 2006 16:06, Danial Thom wrote: --- Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 02:36:24PM -0700, Danial Thom wrote: Freebsd 4.x no doubt :) At this point FreeBSD 6.x has had way more intensive stress testing and QA by the project than 4.x did. It is stable. Kris I'm not saying that its not, only that I know a lot of ISPs and more of them are running 4 than 6. In fact I know exactly 0 running 6. So proclaiming that Freebsd is #1 without qualifying what version they are running doesn't really say anything. While trying to introduce FreeBSD into a Micro$oft only house, I've heard the following many times: Never heard of FreeBSD and Show me some documentation and stats. Regardless of the actual version, the stats are accurate for those providers. They reflect overall uptime and connectivity. This isn't about version, it's about FreeBSD gaining a firmer foothold in a Micro$oft / Linux dominant world. Personally, I'll take all the help I can get. 'nuff said, Beech -- --- Beech Rintoul - Sys. Administrator - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Alaska Paradise \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | 201 East 9Th Avenue Ste.310 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99501 / \ - Please visit Alaska Paradise - http://www.alaskaparadise.com --- pgp87JOVTw8IN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD is #1
On Jun 12, 2006, at 6:06 PM, Danial Thom wrote: --- Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 02:36:24PM -0700, Danial Thom wrote: Freebsd 4.x no doubt :) At this point FreeBSD 6.x has had way more intensive stress testing and QA by the project than 4.x did. It is stable. Kris I'm not saying that its not, only that I know a lot of ISPs and more of them are running 4 than 6. In fact I know exactly 0 running 6. So proclaiming that Freebsd is #1 without qualifying what version they are running doesn't really say anything. We're small but we're running 6.0/6.1 plus a couple of Solaris 10 machines for specific purposes. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD is #1
While trying to introduce FreeBSD into a Micro$oft only house, I've heard the following many times: Never heard of FreeBSD and Show me some documentation and stats. Regardless of the actual version, the stats are accurate for those providers. They reflect overall uptime and connectivity. This isn't about version, it's about FreeBSD gaining a firmer foothold in a Micro$oft / Linux dominant world. Personally, I'll take all the help I can get. 'nuff said, Beech Here we try to offer the FreeBSD to the concorrents of the house... as the concorrents now have less cost, more reliable servers, and a good group/collaborative server running on FreeBSD 6.X.. htp://www.open-xchange.org they still can use the corporate software (via terminal server, rdesktop)... now they use internet (epiphany) email (evolution, linked with the open-xchange server) office (via openoffice 2.0.2) about 1200 thin clients (64Mb memory, 400mhz geode cpu...) and about 6 FreeBSD servers... soon they will have to rethink next year budget... it will be impossible to change 400 or more computers to 64 bit architeture for run next Microsoft vista... at about 1000 dollars (or more) for a hardware + software upgrade Only an upgrade of the Microsoft exchange server how much will cost??? Well the concorrent of the same business have it running now, on the laptops... running FreeBSD, gnome 2.15 with hal - http://www.freedesktop.org How much does this all cost??? about 50 dollars/user/year.. including training... An average user (the less he know windows, better) is able to use the full power of the system with about 3 hours of trying... 90% of the users have been using the system with only the help from the neighbors ... Only the best ones (those who earn more salary, because have many curses from microsoft) were still looking for the C drive, or the outlook to use email... a day or two after... I know that there are advertyzing... in the news telling that using Microsoft is cheaper and better is up to you to believe... Here we used to say that Microsoft builds full informational computerized tables a table where you can scan, print, produce document, some work, play music, video, some games... But a bunch (no mather what is the number of...) tables does not means an informated company... I came from SUN... where the computer is the network... when i need something I get from the network... Why do I need a printer driver what is a C drive??? what is a zip??? how can a teen ager in a high school in another part of the world can spoil my computer??? why do I need to pay for protection??? Here in my country is illegal... All I want do to is to do my job... Lenzi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD is #1
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danial Thom Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 5:06 PM To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Beech Rintoul Subject: Re: FreeBSD is #1 --- Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 02:36:24PM -0700, Danial Thom wrote: Freebsd 4.x no doubt :) At this point FreeBSD 6.x has had way more intensive stress testing and QA by the project than 4.x did. It is stable. Kris I'm not saying that its not, only that I know a lot of ISPs and more of them are running 4 than 6. In fact I know exactly 0 running 6. So proclaiming that Freebsd is #1 without qualifying what version they are running doesn't really say anything. We are running 6 on our news and radius server. In fact we are gradually switching over to 6.1 for a lot of things. But it takes a huge amount of time to move to new platforms, and it is not something your customers pay you for doing. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
5.4 Headless Installation from FreeBSD Disk 1?
I am attempting to install FreeBSD5.4 on a Dell Poweredge 1850 via the serial console. I went through the documentation again and found the following on the FreeBSD 5.4 documentation in installation-i386.txt FreeBSD/i386 5.4-RELEASE Installation Instructions -- snip -- 1.5.6 Tips for Serial Console Users If you'd like to install FreeBSD on a machine using just a serial port (e.g. you don't have or wish to use a VGA card), please follow these steps: 1. Connect some sort of ANSI (vt100) compatible terminal or terminal emulation program to the COM1 port of the PC you are installing FreeBSD onto. 2. Unplug the keyboard (yes, that's correct!) and then try to boot from floppy or the installation CDROM, depending on the type of installation media you have, with the keyboard unplugged. 3. If you don't get any output on your serial console, plug the keyboard in again. If you are booting from the CDROM, proceed to step 5 as soon as you hear the beep. 4. If booting from floppies, when access to the disk stops, insert the first of the kernX.flp disks and press Enter. When access to this disk finishes, insert the next kernX.flp disk and press Enter, and repeat until all kernX.flp disks have been inserted. When disk activity finishes, reinsert the boot.flp floppy disk and press Enter. 5. Once a beep is heard, hit the number 6, then enter boot -h and you should now definitely be seeing everything on the serial port. If that still doesn't work, check your serial cabling as -- snip --- According to that, the CDROM still has the headless option. On this particular server as well as all the other FreeBSD boxes we presently run, removing the keyboard causes the BIOS to indicate a non-functional keyboard but the FreeBSD boot engine doesn't get the message so we always had to have a keyboard in the past in order to type boot -h and that did get the serial console going, often-times at 115,200 baud, but nonetheless going. On 5.4, I made several attempts both with and without the keyboard and never got a beep. I got a monitor and a coworker who can see said monitor to watch the video output and we tried again both with and without a keyboard. Both times, it goes right to a GUI without any opportunity to do anything except watch it boot. I see that the 5.4-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso and the 5.4-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso images are both bootable. I figure I need disk1 to install with. I am sorry for the length of this message but I wanted to demonstrate that we have made every effort to make sure this wasn't just operator error on my part. Any ideas as to how to get this headless installation going with the CDROM are much appreciated. I am replacing one of our DNS's that fried a few weeks ago and we are running on the backup, only until I can get something working again. Many thanks. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK OSU Information Technology Division Network Operations Group ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd disc 1
Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 5, 2005 2:53 AM, Danny Pansters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 00:46, Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005 9:54 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005 12:04 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: Who do i ask if he / she would like to put this to the distribution list [ ] cvsupdate-nogui Cant we make some user freebsd-voting list were we can vote for changes :) Come to think about it, I kinda miss this option, too. Alrighdy thats 2 votes already :) I say we go to the california and go run in circles holding a cvsup pannel :) BTW, I'd also vote for /etc/rc.d/ftpd script Is the only way to setup a ftp by enabeling inetd ? If so i want a /etc/rc.d/ftpd script too Standard ftpd runs through inetd. PS Does sftp mean sshd + ftpd ? Nope. It's a subsystem of sshd, its client interface only resembles ftp just as scp resembles rcp. i that case i dont need ftpd :) so i change my vote to leave all the insecurity in one big insecure inetd server :) Should we load /sbin/init via inetd :)? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd disc 1
Danny Pansters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 00:46, Gert Cuykens wrote: Is the only way to setup a ftp by enabeling inetd ? If so i want a /etc/rc.d/ftpd script too Standard ftpd runs through inetd. It *can* run as a daemon, without inetd. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd disc 1
Gert Cuykens wrote: Who do i ask if he / she would like to put this to the distribution list [ ] cvsupdate-nogui Cant we make some user freebsd-voting list were we can vote for changes :) Come to think about it, I kinda miss this option, too. Best wishes, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd disc 1
On Apr 4, 2005 12:04 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: Who do i ask if he / she would like to put this to the distribution list [ ] cvsupdate-nogui Cant we make some user freebsd-voting list were we can vote for changes :) Come to think about it, I kinda miss this option, too. Best wishes, Andrew P. Alrighdy thats 2 votes already :) I say we go to the california and go run in circles holding a cvsup pannel :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd disc 1
Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005 12:04 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: Who do i ask if he / she would like to put this to the distribution list [ ] cvsupdate-nogui Cant we make some user freebsd-voting list were we can vote for changes :) Come to think about it, I kinda miss this option, too. Alrighdy thats 2 votes already :) I say we go to the california and go run in circles holding a cvsup pannel :) BTW, I'd also vote for /etc/rc.d/ftpd script Wishes, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd disc 1
On Apr 4, 2005 9:54 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005 12:04 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: Who do i ask if he / she would like to put this to the distribution list [ ] cvsupdate-nogui Cant we make some user freebsd-voting list were we can vote for changes :) Come to think about it, I kinda miss this option, too. Alrighdy thats 2 votes already :) I say we go to the california and go run in circles holding a cvsup pannel :) BTW, I'd also vote for /etc/rc.d/ftpd script Is the only way to setup a ftp by enabeling inetd ? If so i want a /etc/rc.d/ftpd script too PS Does sftp mean sshd + ftpd ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd disc 1
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 00:46, Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005 9:54 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005 12:04 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: Who do i ask if he / she would like to put this to the distribution list [ ] cvsupdate-nogui Cant we make some user freebsd-voting list were we can vote for changes :) Come to think about it, I kinda miss this option, too. Alrighdy thats 2 votes already :) I say we go to the california and go run in circles holding a cvsup pannel :) BTW, I'd also vote for /etc/rc.d/ftpd script Is the only way to setup a ftp by enabeling inetd ? If so i want a /etc/rc.d/ftpd script too Standard ftpd runs through inetd. PS Does sftp mean sshd + ftpd ? Nope. It's a subsystem of sshd, its client interface only resembles ftp just as scp resembles rcp. Dan (please don't CC me) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: freebsd disc 1
On Apr 5, 2005 2:53 AM, Danny Pansters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 05 April 2005 00:46, Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005 9:54 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: On Apr 4, 2005 12:04 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gert Cuykens wrote: Who do i ask if he / she would like to put this to the distribution list [ ] cvsupdate-nogui Cant we make some user freebsd-voting list were we can vote for changes :) Come to think about it, I kinda miss this option, too. Alrighdy thats 2 votes already :) I say we go to the california and go run in circles holding a cvsup pannel :) BTW, I'd also vote for /etc/rc.d/ftpd script Is the only way to setup a ftp by enabeling inetd ? If so i want a /etc/rc.d/ftpd script too Standard ftpd runs through inetd. PS Does sftp mean sshd + ftpd ? Nope. It's a subsystem of sshd, its client interface only resembles ftp just as scp resembles rcp. i that case i dont need ftpd :) so i change my vote to leave all the insecurity in one big insecure inetd server :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
freebsd disc 1
Who do i ask if he / she would like to put this to the distribution list [ ] cvsupdate-nogui Cant we make some user freebsd-voting list were we can vote for changes :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SoundBlaster Live, FreeBSD 4.9 #1
I have recently made a FreeBSD 4.8 (now up to 4.9 #1 via CVSup) and can't get the sound to work. Naturally, I have a SoundBlaster Live card. My FreeBSD 5.1 installation has no problems with this card. The manual says I need a patch, though I've searched around on the internet and others dispute this. I've tried enabling pcm in the kernel, and I've tried using 'kldload snd' Both of these cause hard lockups. What is the solution to getting sound on this version of FreeBSD? Thanks, Erick ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
$CVSROOT/options file in FreeBSD cvs(1)
Hi there, I'm trying to make use of the FreeBSD hacks into cvs(1). I've read the Stijn Hoop's article in /usr/share/doc, and things partly works (I receive commit emails). What I can't get to work is custom tag expansion. roman@freepuppy ~/work/CVSROOT 1016:0 grep -rI BVista . ./options:tag=BVista=CVSHeader ./options:tagexpand=iBVista ./cfg_local.pm:$IDHEADER = 'BVista'; roman@freepuppy ~/work/CVSROOT 1025:0 grep -v ^# checkoutlist avail cfg.pm cfg_local.pm commit_prep.pl commitcheck commitinfo cvs_acls.pl cvsusers exclude log_accum.pl logcheck options rcstemplate readers tagcheck I know it's a dumb PEBKAC, but just can't see it. Any ideas? Oh, and BTW, is the handling of i/e in the tagexpand value a joke? As far as I can tell from /usr/src/contrib/cvs/src/rcs.c:RCS_setincexc, i means exclusive, e inclusive. Am I suffering from caffein deprivation? -- If you cc me or take the list(s) out completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: $CVSROOT/options file in FreeBSD cvs(1)
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-11-15 11:26:25 +0100: Hi there, I'm trying to make use of the FreeBSD hacks into cvs(1). I've read the Stijn Hoop's article in /usr/share/doc, and things partly works (I receive commit emails). What I can't get to work is custom tag expansion. got it to work. turned out cvs doesn't expand the keyword on update in an existing checkout if the update doesn't otherwise modify the file... or something. sorry for the noise. -- If you cc me or take the list(s) out completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
