Re: How to upgrade to KDE4

2008-11-07 Thread Andrew Falanga
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:26 PM, RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:52:06 -0800
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 the only
 thing that updated was the meta-port (I did a portupgrade -r too).

 Aside from the fact that there are separate kde meta-ports,
 portupgrade -r kde... updates the metaport and everything that depends
 on the metaport, not everything the metaport depends on.

Thanks for the clarification.  I think I had things backwards.

Also, as I'd like to go to KDE 4, should I do a make deinstall in
kdebase, or perhaps pkg_delete for the kde packages before installing?
 I know that the first respondent said the two versions could be run
in tandem, and while I've got plenty of disk space for this, it also
seems quite error prone.  What would be the recommended course?

Andy

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Re: How to upgrade to KDE4

2008-11-07 Thread mdh
--- On Fri, 11/7/08, Andrew Falanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: Andrew Falanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: How to upgrade to KDE4
 To: RW [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 9:49 AM
 On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:26 PM, RW
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:52:06 -0800
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  the only
  thing that updated was the meta-port (I did a
 portupgrade -r too).
 
  Aside from the fact that there are separate kde
 meta-ports,
  portupgrade -r kde... updates the metaport and
 everything that depends
  on the metaport, not everything the metaport depends
 on.
 
 Thanks for the clarification.  I think I had things
 backwards.
 
 Also, as I'd like to go to KDE 4, should I do a make
 deinstall in
 kdebase, or perhaps pkg_delete for the kde packages before
 installing?
  I know that the first respondent said the two versions
 could be run
 in tandem, and while I've got plenty of disk space for
 this, it also
 seems quite error prone.  What would be the recommended
 course?

KDE3 and KDE4 co-habitate just fine.  You'll likely need KDE3 installed for 
some apps which don't use KDE4 libs yet.  I am pretty sure ktorrent is what 
installed kde3 on my system when I upgraded recently.  There are plenty of 
others, though.  KDE4 installs under /usr/local/kde4, while KDE3 installs under 
/usr/local at this time (assuming you haven't changed port bases yourself.)  
Because of this, you'll likely want to remember to add 
/usr/local/kde4/{bin,sbin} to your shell search paths, and remember to use kdm 
from KDE4 as your login manager (this tricked me at first, and I was wondering 
for a bit why I was still getting a KDE3 login manager until I realized that 
KDE4 went under /usr/local/kde4/).  I would not say that it is error prone at 
all.  Everything has, so far, worked out of the box just fine save a couple of 
KDE4 bugs I've tweaked, none of which are bad enough to prevent me from working 
normally in KDE4 or to make me want to dump KDE4.  

- mdh



  
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How to upgrade to KDE4

2008-11-05 Thread af300wsm

Hi,

I'm using FreeBSD 6.2-p11 (yes, I've got to update). A couple days ago I  
updated my ports tree and went to update kde 3.5.6. At first I did a  
portupgrade on the KDE meta-port but, ironically, the only thing that  
updated was the meta-port (I did a portupgrade -r too). I should also say  
that I first looked in /usr/ports/UPDATING and there weren't any particular  
instructions (that I could find) for updating KDE. I opened the file in vim  
and searched for kde and KDE. On both searches, nothing regarding the  
specific update of 3.5.x to 4.x was mentioned.


I'm having some problems updating the kdebase package now (since the  
meta-port didn't update the whole thing, I'm updating individually to  
3.5.10). It's having some compile time issues, something about an  
identifier not existing in a particular namespace or some-such error, I've  
got to look into it further. However, since I'm going through this  
loathsome process anyway, would it be advisable to just do a deinstall of  
the kde system and cd to /usr/ports/x11/kde (I think that's where it is)  
and install 4.x (if that's even how to do it)? I would really prefer to run  
4.x.


Thanks for any help,
Andy
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Re: How to upgrade to KDE4

2008-11-05 Thread Manolis Kiagias

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Hi,

I'm using FreeBSD 6.2-p11 (yes, I've got to update). A couple days ago 
I updated my ports tree and went to update kde 3.5.6. At first I did a 
portupgrade on the KDE meta-port but, ironically, the only thing that 
updated was the meta-port (I did a portupgrade -r too). I should also 
say that I first looked in /usr/ports/UPDATING and there weren't any 
particular instructions (that I could find) for updating KDE. I opened 
the file in vim and searched for kde and KDE. On both searches, 
nothing regarding the specific update of 3.5.x to 4.x was mentioned.


I'm having some problems updating the kdebase package now (since the 
meta-port didn't update the whole thing, I'm updating individually to 
3.5.10). It's having some compile time issues, something about an 
identifier not existing in a particular namespace or some-such error, 
I've got to look into it further. However, since I'm going through 
this loathsome process anyway, would it be advisable to just do a 
deinstall of the kde system and cd to /usr/ports/x11/kde (I think 
that's where it is) and install 4.x (if that's even how to do it)? I 
would really prefer to run 4.x.


Thanks for any help,
Andy


The Handbook has been recently updated with instructions on installing / 
running KDE4:


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html

It is also possible to keep both versions installed (since KDE4 installs 
in a different directory).
If you decide to go along this path, I would advise you to set your PATH 
so that /usr/local/kde4/bin is before /usr/local/bin (when running 
KDE4). This will prevent inadvertently running kde3.x executables in 4.x.


There has been some discussion on the list concerning the usability of 
KDE4. FWIW, it worked for me but I am not a KDE person anyway (and have 
only used 3.X a couple of times) and don't need most of the features of 
such a desktop. YMMV.

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Re: Re: How to upgrade to KDE4

2008-11-05 Thread af300wsm

On Nov 5, 2008 8:24am, Manolis Kiagias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,



I'm using FreeBSD 6.2-p11 (yes, I've got to update). A couple days ago I  
updated my ports tree and went to update kde 3.5.6. At first I did a  
portupgrade on the KDE meta-port but, ironically, the only thing that  
updated was the meta-port (I did a portupgrade -r too). I should also say  
that I first looked in /usr/ports/UPDATING and there weren't any particular  
instructions (that I could find) for updating KDE. I opened the file in vim  
and searched for kde and KDE. On both searches, nothing regarding the  
specific update of 3.5.x to 4.x was mentioned.




I'm having some problems updating the kdebase package now (since the  
meta-port didn't update the whole thing, I'm updating individually to  
3.5.10). It's having some compile time issues, something about an  
identifier not existing in a particular namespace or some-such error, I've  
got to look into it further. However, since I'm going through this  
loathsome process anyway, would it be advisable to just do a deinstall of  
the kde system and cd to /usr/ports/x11/kde (I think that's where it is)  
and install 4.x (if that's even how to do it)? I would really prefer to run  
4.x.




Thanks for any help,

Andy




The Handbook has been recently updated with instructions on installing /  

running KDE4:




http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html



It is also possible to keep both versions installed (since KDE4 installs  

in a different directory).


If you decide to go along this path, I would advise you to set your PATH  
so that /usr/local/kde4/bin is before /usr/local/bin (when running KDE4).  
This will prevent inadvertently running kde3.x executables in 4.x.




There has been some discussion on the list concerning the usability of  
KDE4. FWIW, it worked for me but I am not a KDE person anyway (and have  
only used 3.X a couple of times) and don't need most of the features of  
such a desktop. YMMV.




That is fantastic, thanks.

Andy
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Re: How to upgrade to KDE4

2008-11-05 Thread RW
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:52:06 -0800
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the only
 thing that updated was the meta-port (I did a portupgrade -r too). 

Aside from the fact that there are separate kde meta-ports,
portupgrade -r kde... updates the metaport and everything that depends
on the metaport, not everything the metaport depends on.
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