Re: Mounting /c
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 02:23:25AM +, RW wrote: On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:09:57 + Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com wrote: Why not as a matter of curiosity? It has its limitations (eg max file size) but it's very cross platform. ntfs is much more robust than fat32, if you crash windows or pull the plug, you are more likely to lose data with fat32. But, if your MS-Win slice is just there for occasional convenience and is not especially significant, converting NTFS to FAT32 is an easy way to be able to write to it directly from FreeBSD. The alternative is to create a 3rd slice that is FAT32 and use it as a communication stash. FAT32 has its limitations, but it is quite usable under most circumstances if those limitations are not important. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mounting /c
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 03:36:33AM +, RW wrote: On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 18:17:49 -0500 Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: In general, you should not expect to be able to write to an ntfs file system type.That is why I converted my MS-Win file system to FAT32. Not a good idea. I didn't need anything ntfs provided and it was convenient rather than further dividing the disk to have a write area. jerry According to the man page, some limited writing can be done, but the list of limitations is long and they are not all immediately straightforward. You should be able to write to ntfs if you use the fuse version sysutils/fusefs-ntfs - it just works in my experience. The last time I checked it required some (well-documented) adjustment to make it mount from fstab as FreeBSD uses a hard-coded list of mount_* commands rather than simply converting mount -t foo to mount_foo. I'm not sure if this is fixed in 7.1 - but it's about time it was. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mounting /c
RW wrote: On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 18:17:49 -0500 Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: In general, you should not expect to be able to write to an ntfs file system type.That is why I converted my MS-Win file system to FAT32. Not a good idea. Why not as a matter of curiosity? It has its limitations (eg max file size) but it's very cross platform. According to the man page, some limited writing can be done, but the list of limitations is long and they are not all immediately straightforward. You should be able to write to ntfs if you use the fuse version sysutils/fusefs-ntfs - it just works in my experience. I would suggest lots of testing, I did by copying bunches of files from UFS to ntfs then md5-ing the originals and the copies and there were plenty of differences. I decided I wasn't ready to trust it yet. Chris The last time I checked it required some (well-documented) adjustment to make it mount from fstab as FreeBSD uses a hard-coded list of mount_* commands rather than simply converting mount -t foo to mount_foo. I'm not sure if this is fixed in 7.1 - but it's about time it was. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mounting /c
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:09:57 + Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com wrote: Why not as a matter of curiosity? It has its limitations (eg max file size) but it's very cross platform. ntfs is much more robust than fat32, if you crash windows or pull the plug, you are more likely to lose data with fat32. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Mounting /c
Question 1) I have this alias that allows me to mount my windoze drive at /c: alias mdc='mount_ntfs /dev/ad1s1 /c' It works fine. I thought that I could automate the process further by mounting /c at boot-up time, so I added this to fstab: # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad1s1 /c ntfs rw 1 0 That doesn't work. What is wrong there? Question 2) I know that it is possible to copy files from /c to my freebsd drive, but is it possible to do that in reverse? TIA... Rem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mounting /c
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 01:43:45PM -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote: Question 1) I have this alias that allows me to mount my windoze drive at /c: alias mdc='mount_ntfs /dev/ad1s1 /c' It works fine. I thought that I could automate the process further by mounting /c at boot-up time, so I added this to fstab: # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad1s1 /c ntfs rw 1 0 That doesn't work. What is wrong there? I think I must be missing something here. This all seems like the hard way to do things, or else you are trying to do something I don't understand. It seems to me like just: mkdir /c: (skip the : if you don't really want it) mount_ntfs /dev/as1s1 /c: Should work. And then, put this in your /etc/fstab: # Device Mountpoint FStype OptionsDumpPass# /dev/ad1s1/c: ntfs ro0 0 to get it to mount when the system comes up. I do this with an msdosfs filesystem type with no problem and once had a machine with ntfs and did it there. (but that is gone so I can't go and check it now) Question 2) I know that it is possible to copy files from /c to my freebsd drive, but is it possible to do that in reverse? In general, you should not expect to be able to write to an ntfs file system type.That is why I converted my MS-Win file system to FAT32. According to the man page, some limited writing can be done, but the list of limitations is long and they are not all immediately straightforward. Seeman mount_ntfs for more information on this. If you really want to try writing to the ntfs file system from FreeBSD, then you would have to change the mount option to 'rw' from 'ro'. jerry TIA... Rem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mounting /c
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 01:43:45PM -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote: Question 1) I have this alias that allows me to mount my windoze drive at /c: alias mdc='mount_ntfs /dev/ad1s1 /c' It works fine. I thought that I could automate the process further by mounting /c at boot-up time, so I added this to fstab: # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad1s1 /c ntfs rw 1 0 When using the built-in mount_ntfs you should really mount read-only. Maybe using the options 'ro' and 'late' will help. Question 2) I know that it is possible to copy files from /c to my freebsd drive, but is it possible to do that in reverse? You should use the sysutils/fusefs-ntfs port if you want to mount ntfs read/write. See /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/files/README.FreeBSD Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgp2844b5DOrP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mounting /c
Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 01:43:45PM -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote: Question 1) I have this alias that allows me to mount my windoze drive at /c: alias mdc='mount_ntfs /dev/ad1s1 /c' It works fine. I thought that I could automate the process further by mounting /c at boot-up time, so I added this to fstab: # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad1s1 /c ntfsrw 1 0 When using the built-in mount_ntfs you should really mount read-only. Maybe using the options 'ro' and 'late' will help. I changed the fstab options to 'ro' and /c still won't mount at startup. This is not a big deal since I can get /c mounted via the alias; I'm just trying to understand why it doesn't work. I recall that on an old system of mine I had fstab set up as you indicate and it worked fine. Rem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Mounting /c
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 04:05:20PM -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote: Roland Smith wrote: When using the built-in mount_ntfs you should really mount read-only. Maybe using the options 'ro' and 'late' will help. I changed the fstab options to 'ro' and /c still won't mount at startup. This is not a big deal since I can get /c mounted via the alias; I'm just trying to understand why it doesn't work. I recall that on an old system of mine I had fstab set up as you indicate and it worked fine. Check /var/log/messages or dmesg output to see if they contain any clues as to why the mount command fails. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpooD6PFGzE7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mounting /c
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 18:17:49 -0500 Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: In general, you should not expect to be able to write to an ntfs file system type.That is why I converted my MS-Win file system to FAT32. Not a good idea. According to the man page, some limited writing can be done, but the list of limitations is long and they are not all immediately straightforward. You should be able to write to ntfs if you use the fuse version sysutils/fusefs-ntfs - it just works in my experience. The last time I checked it required some (well-documented) adjustment to make it mount from fstab as FreeBSD uses a hard-coded list of mount_* commands rather than simply converting mount -t foo to mount_foo. I'm not sure if this is fixed in 7.1 - but it's about time it was. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
