Re: SiI3112 Controller Question

2006-03-31 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Richard P. Koett wrote:


Thanks Alex. I did check Google before posting but nothing I read was
very recent. I was curious if things had improved since newer firmware
and newer versions of FreeBSD had come along.

I'll go with the HPT controller.
 

Everything I read on the mailing lists said that the controller itself 
was complete garbage and that no changes in FreeBSD could help that.  
I'm sure that two of the first three posts I found with google said that 
to :-(  I don't know your Highpoint controller at all but I can't 
imagine it could be anything but better, assuming it's recognised.


Good luck,

--Alex

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Re: SiI3112 Controller Question

2006-03-30 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Mar 30, 2006, at 5:45 PM, Richard P. Koett wrote:


Garance A Drosihn wrote:

At 1:51 PM -0800 3/30/06, Richard P. Koett wrote:

Some quick questions:

1) Are these SiI3112 controllers any good?


They suck.
They are horrible.
They are very cheap to buy -- and are overpriced after
you add in all the aggravation they provide.

Don't waste your time on them.  Buy a real SATA
controller.  (disclaimer: I am only commenting on
their SATA controllers)


I have the option of using a HighPoint HPT372 instead
but was planning to use that elsewhere.


Unfortunately I don't know enough to comment on other
alternatives.  I dumped my SiI3112 SATA controller
and bought a real controller as made by Promise, but
there are probably a number of other good options.


Well, the HPT controller is not what I'd call *real* RAID
either but it's lying around so I'll give it a try.


If you want a somewhat reasonably priced "real" raid controller, the  
LSI MegaRaid SATA-4 150 (or some name like that) is around $225 or so  
and works pretty well


Chad


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RE: SiI3112 Controller Question

2006-03-30 Thread Richard P. Koett
Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> At 1:51 PM -0800 3/30/06, Richard P. Koett wrote:
>> Some quick questions:
>> 
>> 1) Are these SiI3112 controllers any good?
> 
> They suck.
> They are horrible.
> They are very cheap to buy -- and are overpriced after
> you add in all the aggravation they provide.
> 
> Don't waste your time on them.  Buy a real SATA
> controller.  (disclaimer: I am only commenting on
> their SATA controllers)
> 
>> I have the option of using a HighPoint HPT372 instead
>> but was planning to use that elsewhere.
> 
> Unfortunately I don't know enough to comment on other
> alternatives.  I dumped my SiI3112 SATA controller
> and bought a real controller as made by Promise, but
> there are probably a number of other good options.

Well, the HPT controller is not what I'd call *real* RAID
either but it's lying around so I'll give it a try.

>> 2) Would upgrading to something newer than 5.4-RELEASE
>> help with this issue?
> 
> It will probably help.  That doesn't mean you will have
> a reliable controller, it just means that 6.x includes
> more work-arounds for the myriad bugs in these super-
> cheap controllers.  Some of these work-arounds result
> in performance penalties.
> 
> Just my opinion, of course...  YMMV.

Thanks. Your comments are appreciated.



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RE: SiI3112 Controller Question

2006-03-30 Thread Richard P. Koett
Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
> Richard P. Koett wrote:
> 
>> 1) Are these SiI3112 controllers any good? I have the option of
>> using a HighPoint HPT372 instead but was planning to use that
>> elsewhere.  
>> 
>> 
> A simple google for "sil3112 freebsd" will return you plenty of
> responses which will provide an answer to your question - which is, no
> they are not any good.   I'll leave you with google to fill in the
> details. 
> 

Thanks Alex. I did check Google before posting but nothing I read was
very recent. I was curious if things had improved since newer firmware
and newer versions of FreeBSD had come along.

I'll go with the HPT controller.

RPK.

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Re: SiI3112 Controller Question

2006-03-30 Thread Garance A Drosihn

At 1:51 PM -0800 3/30/06, Richard P. Koett wrote:

Some quick questions:

1) Are these SiI3112 controllers any good?


They suck.
They are horrible.
They are very cheap to buy -- and are overpriced after
you add in all the aggravation they provide.

Don't waste your time on them.  Buy a real SATA
controller.  (disclaimer: I am only commenting on
their SATA controllers)


I have the option of using a HighPoint HPT372 instead
but was planning to use that elsewhere.


Unfortunately I don't know enough to comment on other
alternatives.  I dumped my SiI3112 SATA controller
and bought a real controller as made by Promise, but
there are probably a number of other good options.


2) Would upgrading to something newer than 5.4-RELEASE
help with this issue?


It will probably help.  That doesn't mean you will have
a reliable controller, it just means that 6.x includes
more work-arounds for the myriad bugs in these super-
cheap controllers.  Some of these work-arounds result
in performance penalties.

Just my opinion, of course...  YMMV.

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Re: SiI3112 Controller Question

2006-03-30 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Richard P. Koett wrote:


1) Are these SiI3112 controllers any good? I have the option of using a 
HighPoint HPT372 instead but was planning to use that elsewhere.
 

A simple google for "sil3112 freebsd" will return you plenty of 
responses which will provide an answer to your question - which is, no 
they are not any good.   I'll leave you with google to fill in the details.


Based on nothing more than reading mailing lists, highpoint controllers 
have a much better reputation.  No doubt google could be your friend on 
that issue as well.


Sorry for the bad news,

--Alex

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