Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-07 Thread Eitan Adler
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:07 PM, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer bae...@t-online.de wrote: Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg linux-opera -display :0

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Sabine Baer
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 04:49:16AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: [SNAFU] That's the situation with Flash. And as I have experienced it, I can honestly say that I'm fine without Flash. I may review my opinion, if given some reason to do so. But as it has already been mentioned, that's a very

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer bae...@t-online.de wrote: Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw since I live in a Windows free zone at home. Well, there's always youtube-dl -a for that. Just

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:46:16 -, Graham Bentley ad...@cpcnw.co.uk wrote: Points very well made. In fact shouldn't we be campaigning against such closed source perversion of our Open Standards Internet, not complaining that one company doesn't make a media content viewer for us? In fact, if

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread perryh
Pongthep Kulkrisada ptkris...@gmail.com wrote: * Warren Block (wbl...@wonkity.com) wrote: When you upgrade from 7.x to 8.x, it's necessary to rebuild *all* ports. ... Some people only use console, they should rebuild all ports relating to their work. They do not have to rebuild KDE or

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Graham Bentley
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:02:36 -, Graham Bentley ad...@cpcnw.co.uk wrote: It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. I think it looks great - no ads !!! Hurray !!! I may politely add that exactly this is the reason I removed a working Flash support from my system. I

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Jerry ges...@yahoo.com wrote: Adobe, a commercial entity, obviously feels that the cost of supporting the FreeBSD community is not a financially prudent business venture. Well, that's their decision, of course. However, Linux and FreeBSD aren't so far apart

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer bae...@t-online.de wrote: Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw since I live in a Windows

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: If they don't want to make one, there's no way to convince them. Since the majority of free and standardized operating systems isn't oriented at market share, there is no reason for Adobe to follow a crying Please! :-) There

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:07:25 +0100, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: That's true. I love youtube-dl too, as it helps me keep a local .flv copy, even for videos that have been removed for one reason or another. A very useful feature, especially for offline operations. However, there are

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:15:37 +0100, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: If they don't want to make one, there's no way to convince them. Since the majority of free and standardized operating systems isn't oriented at

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Harald Weis
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 12:14:15PM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: Hi all, I have been using FBSD since 5.4 until now 8.0. Mostly, I use it as a server and coding C (as my hobby). All the time I stay in console without fancy of any GUI. For GUI applications, I mostly use Windows. Now I

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Mar 5, 2010, at 11:35 PM, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: * Warren Block (wbl...@wonkity.com) wrote: When you upgrade from 7.x to 8.x, it's necessary to rebuild *all* ports. Thanks for your suggestion, but it does not seem likely. All operating systems can always distinguish the system and

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Robert Huff
Polytropon writes: And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime YT changes its embedding. That's what make update is used for. :-) More importantly, it's about the author (and maintainer, if they're different) fixing things promptly after a change, My experience

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Robert Huff
Chuck Swiger writes: For all practical purposes, if you upgrade to a new major version, then you must rebuild all installed ports. And if you have the time and knowledge to not have to do this ... you're probably not involved in the discussion to begin with. :-)

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote:   And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime   YT changes its embedding.  That's what make update is used for. :-)        More importantly, it's about the author (and maintainer, if they're different) fixing

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Paul B Mahol
On 3/6/10, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer bae...@t-online.de wrote: Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg linux-opera -display :0

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread George Liaskos
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:07 PM, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime YT changes its embedding. I wished YouTube would switch to HTML5, or at least added this as an option. Actually this option exists http://www.youtube.com/html5 The

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Sabine Baer
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 09:25:41AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer bae...@t-online.de wrote: Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw since I live in a Windows free

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:29:48 +0100, Sabine Baer bae...@t-online.de wrote: OK, I really didn't know youtube_dl (and clive someone mentioned in the thread). So, thanks a lot. I youtube-dl-ed my puff pastry examle. It took me 5 minutes and 11.69M space on diks but then I was able to look at it

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:14 AM, Pongthep Kulkrisada ptkris...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is that ``flash viewer'' is not installed. Shockwave/Adobe/Macromedia flash viewers are not shipped with FBSD CD. I'm running OpenSolaris/x86 as guest in VirtualBox on FreeBSD/amd64 for that, since Adobe

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread Pongthep Kulkrisada
* Polytropon (free...@edvax.de) wrote: Do you have compat7x installed? No I don't. If you already updated to OS 8.0, you should update your ports tree, too, and use the current ports. I always csup the SELECTED port tree but not all. Just installing isn't enough, there's some configuration

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread daniele
On 03/05/10 12:00, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: * Polytropon (free...@edvax.de) wrote: Do you have compat7x installed? No I don't. If you already updated to OS 8.0, you should update your ports tree, too, and use the current ports. I always csup the SELECTED port tree but not all. Just

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread Pongthep Kulkrisada
* daniele (gl...@live.com) wrote: HI ! I tested the process of installing firefox/opera and flash plugin. Everything run on my system FreeBSD 8, even though I did not stress browser plugin. Here's all the step that I took to make the flash plugin work for firefox and opera (basically I

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread daniele
On 03/05/10 17:12, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: * daniele (gl...@live.com) wrote: HI ! I tested the process of installing firefox/opera and flash plugin. Everything run on my system FreeBSD 8, even though I did not stress browser plugin. Here's all the step that I took to make the flash plugin

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Pongthep Kulkrisada ptkris...@gmail.com wrote: Or the problem is that I cvsup(ed) from 7.1 to 7.2 and then csup(ed) to 8.0. If you csup, you update only /usr/src (or /usr/ports). Have you actually updated the system and the ports as well? FBSD should make it

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread Pongthep Kulkrisada
* daniele (gl...@live.com) wrote: hmmm... :-/ is at least now the web browser opera working ? Yes it is working. Thanks for your prompt response. Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread Pongthep Kulkrisada
* daniele (gl...@live.com) wrote: hmmm... :-/ is at least now the web browser opera working ? [edit]Yes, it is working but without flash. [/edit] Thanks for your prompt response. Pongthep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread Pongthep Kulkrisada
* C. P. Ghost (cpgh...@cordula.ws) wrote: If you csup, you update only /usr/src (or /usr/ports). Have you actually updated the system and the ports as well? % uname -a FreeBSD bsdhost.localdomain 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Tue Dec 1 19:12:37 ICT 2009

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Pongthep Kulkrisada ptkris...@gmail.com wrote: * C. P. Ghost (cpgh...@cordula.ws) wrote: If you csup, you update only /usr/src (or /usr/ports). Have you actually updated the system and the ports as well? % uname -a FreeBSD bsdhost.localdomain 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: Or the problem is that I cvsup(ed) from 7.1 to 7.2 and then csup(ed) to 8.0. Some libraries are probably not updated??? But ``make install'' success, so libraries should not be problems. I don't know. When you upgrade from 7.x to 8.x, it's

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:54:40 +0100 C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws articulated: Of course, it's all a matter of personal tastes, likes and dislikes. I'd rather have a native flash plugin for FreeBSD/amd64 too (Firefox and Opera), but this is unlikely in the near future, knowing the miserable

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread Graham Bentley
It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. I think it looks great - no ads !!! Hurray !!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread Neal Hogan
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Graham Bentley ad...@cpcnw.co.uk wrote: It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. I think it looks great - no ads !!! Hurray !!! Bingo! If the OP wants M$-like flash support, then . . . well . . . use M$ (and its friend$). It's not really fair

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:02:36 -, Graham Bentley ad...@cpcnw.co.uk wrote: It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. I think it looks great - no ads !!! Hurray !!! I may politely add that exactly this is the reason I removed a working Flash support from my system. I rather

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread Pongthep Kulkrisada
* Warren Block (wbl...@wonkity.com) wrote: When you upgrade from 7.x to 8.x, it's necessary to rebuild *all* ports. Thanks for your suggestion, but it does not seem likely. All operating systems can always distinguish the system and packages. For instance, gcc is tightly coupled with the

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread Pongthep Kulkrisada
* daniele (gl...@live.com) wrote: Dont worry I wanted to try to help for what I can. I installed the plugin this morning and I was curious. Thank you again for your kind. It's strange though. The plugin is there. I dont know if there's a kind of log somewhere to see if it sees it. I also

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-05 Thread Pongthep Kulkrisada
* C. P. Ghost (cpgh...@cordula.ws) wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Pongthep Kulkrisada ptkris...@gmail.com wrote: % uname -a FreeBSD bsdhost.localdomain 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Tue Dec  1 19:12:37 ICT 2009     r...@bsdhost.localdomain:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-04 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:14:15 +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada ptkris...@gmail.com wrote: I installed FBSD 7.1 with KDE 3.5 from CD. Then I csup(ed) and buildworld to FBSD 7.2 and then finally FBSD 8.0 while remaining KDE unchanged. Do you have compat7x installed? If you already updated to OS 8.0,

Re: Flash viewer for FBSD

2010-03-04 Thread Sabine Baer
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 12:14:15PM +0700, Pongthep Kulkrisada wrote: [...] I use opera-10.10 for web browsing. It looks very bad for browsing web without flash viewer. I tried installing from ports. - opera-linuxplugins-10.10. - linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0 - f4l-0.2.1.4 (I guess it