RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-14 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Schuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:02 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; Chris; Adrian Chadd > Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 > > > > The peo

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-10 Thread Peter Schuller
> The people complaining about hardware compatibility need > to pull their heads out. If they are buying brand new systems > they are utter fools if they don't check out in advance > what works and what doesen't. It's not like there's a > shortage of experienced people on this list who could > te

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-08 Thread Al Plant
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: Simon Dircks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:27 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Peter Losher; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 Ted Mittelstaedt

RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-08 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: Simon Dircks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:27 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Peter Losher; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 > >

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-07 Thread Simon Dircks
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: Peter Losher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 10:18 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 Yeah, ISC just hates FreeBSD

RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Losher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 10:18 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 > > > Yeah, ISC j

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-05 Thread Mark Linimon
> > * I am trying to understand what is different about the ISC > > configuration but have not yet found the cause. > It's called "Anti-FreeBSD bias". You won't find anything. If this is true, please try to explain to me the following: - ISC hosts 5 Netra 1s that comprise most of our sparc64 p

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-04 Thread Chris
On 29/02/2008, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Device drivers and hardware are a cooperative effort. The ideal > is a well-written device driver and well-designed hardware. > Unfortunately the reality of it appears to be that it costs > a LOT more money to hire good silicon de

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-03 Thread Peter Losher
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: My beef with the DNS tests was that ISC ran out and bought the hardware FIRST, -then- they started testing. This is directly contrary to every bit of advice ever given in the computer industry for the last 50 years - you select the software FIRST, -then- you buy the hard

RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-03 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:21 PM > To: Adrian Chadd > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 > &

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-02 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Chris wrote: Ironically the latest server I got last night has a intel pro 1000 a rarity :) I am just giving feedback as when I speak to people in the datacentre and hosting business the biggest gripe with freebsd is hardware compatability, as I adore freebsd I ignore th

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-03-01 Thread Christian Brueffer
On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 02:20:58AM +, Chris wrote: > On 01/03/2008, Adrian Chadd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 01/03/2008, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > You working round what I just said. A nic should perform equally well > > > as it does in other operating systems just beca

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Chris
On 01/03/2008, Adrian Chadd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 01/03/2008, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You working round what I just said. A nic should perform equally well > > as it does in other operating systems just because its cheaper its not > > an excuse for buggy performance. Th

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 01/03/2008, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You working round what I just said. A nic should perform equally well > as it does in other operating systems just because its cheaper its not > an excuse for buggy performance. There is also other good network > cards apart from intel pro 100

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Fred C
On Feb 29, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Chris wrote: A weakness of freebsd is its fussyness over hardware in particular network cards, time and time again I see posts here telling people to go out buying expensive intel pro 1000 cards just so they can use the operating system properly when I think its re

RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 7:45 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Sam Leffler; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Oliver Herold; Kris > Kennaway; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Chris
On 29/02/2008, Tom Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 15:44 +, Chris wrote: > > On 29/02/2008, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > A weakness of freebsd is its fussyness over hardware in particular > > network cards, time and time again I see posts here tel

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 10:44 AM 2/29/2008, Chris wrote: A weakness of freebsd is its fussyness over hardware in particular network cards, time and time again I see posts here telling people to go out buying expensive intel pro 1000 cards just so they can use the operating system properly when I think its reasonable

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Tom Evans
On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 15:44 +, Chris wrote: > On 29/02/2008, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A weakness of freebsd is its fussyness over hardware in particular > network cards, time and time again I see posts here telling people to > go out buying expensive intel pro 1000 cards

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Chris
gt; Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kris Kennaway; Oliver Herold; > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 > > > > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: [EMAI

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-29 Thread Oliver Herold
t; Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kris Kennaway; Oliver Herold; > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 > > > > > > > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > > > >> -Original Message

RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
gt; >> To: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 > >> > >> > >> Oliver Herold wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I saw this b

RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:57 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in Free

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
Adrian Chadd wrote: (Sorry for top posting.) Its not actually -that- bad an idea to compare different applications. It sets the "bar" for how far the entire system {hardware, OS, application, network} can be pushed. If nsd beats bind9 by say 5 or 10% over all, then its nothing to write home abo

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-27 Thread Adrian Chadd
riginal Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway > >> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:18 PM > >> To: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subj

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-27 Thread Sam Leffler
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:18 PM To: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 Oliver

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-27 Thread Kris Kennaway
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:18 PM To: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 Oliver

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-26 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:18 PM To: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 Oliver

RE: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:18 PM > To: Oliver Herold; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-26 Thread Kris Kennaway
O. Hartmann wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: [SCHNIPP] * 7.0 with ULE has a bug on this workload (actually to do with workloads involving high interrupt rates). It is fixed in 8.0. will this patch also be available for 7.0? If you mean "will it be merged to RELENG_7", absolutely. If you mean

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-26 Thread O. Hartmann
Kris Kennaway wrote: [SCHNIPP] * 7.0 with ULE has a bug on this workload (actually to do with workloads involving high interrupt rates). It is fixed in 8.0. will this patch also be available for 7.0? Regards, Oliver ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
Chris wrote: * 7.0 with ULE has a bug on this workload (actually to do with workloads involving high interrupt rates). It is fixed in 8.0. Kris can you say anything more about interrupt workload bugs on ULE? On all my 7.0 servers I now am using ULE even on the UP ones as it was said there is s

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-25 Thread Chris
> > * 7.0 with ULE has a bug on this workload (actually to do with workloads > involving high interrupt rates). It is fixed in 8.0. Kris can you say anything more about interrupt workload bugs on ULE? On all my 7.0 servers I now am using ULE even on the UP ones as it was said there is slight impr

Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7

2008-02-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
Oliver Herold wrote: Hi, I saw this bind benchmarks just some minutes ago, http://new.isc.org/proj/dnsperf/OStest.html is this true for FreeBSD 7 (current state: RELENG_7/7.0R) too? Or is this something verified only for the state of development back in August 2007? I have been trying to rep