Re: make world question on remote dedicated server
Mark Sams wrote: Hi, I am thinking of getting a FreeBSD dedicated server that I will only have ssh access to. What is the normal procedure of keeping up to date with kernel changes when you do not have console access? Is it possible to drop into single user mode remotely? No. At least, not from very far away, not with only one box. Or is single user mode not necessary for make installkernel and the like? Does: buildworld / buildkernel / installkernel reboot then installworld / mergemaster work while connected through ssh? Yes. Quid pro quo ... this is more dangerous if the server is relatively highly trafficked. Also, if the kernel won't boot, you're up a creek. Hasn't happened to me ever, though. Now, there was that time when I forgot to tell BIOS to ignore the fact that no keyboard was attached . :-) Thank you in advance. Mark ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make world question on remote dedicated server
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 05:46:54PM +1100, Mark Sams wrote: I am thinking of getting a FreeBSD dedicated server that I will only have ssh access to. What is the normal procedure of keeping up to date with kernel changes when you do not have console access? The usual procedure is to get console access. The cheapest and easiest way of doing that is to use a null-modem cable to connect the serial port to a neighbouring machine and run tip(1) or some other terminal emulator there. If you haven't got another machine handy, you might be able to use a modem to provide yourself with a remote console -- shades of the days of big-iron mainframe type systems. Is it possible to drop into single user mode remotely? Or is single user mode not necessary for make installkernel and the like? Does: Getting into single user mode remotely is easy. It's the getting out that's hard. buildworld / buildkernel / installkernel reboot then installworld / mergemaster If you're going to do this at all, it's probably better to save the reboot until after all of the installworld/installkernel/mergemaster steps. work while connected through ssh? You certainly can do this, and the vast majority of the time it will work OK. However, if things don't go smoothly you're going to be left up a gum tree with a non-working server and no way to recover or back-out changes. Whether that's an acceptable risk is a judgement call you'll have to make. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Make world question
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 01:53:55PM -0500, Charles Howse wrote: Hi, I haven't done this before, and even though I have FreeBSD Unleashed, and have read several articles from bsdvault.net and the relevant section of the handbook, I still have a simple question. I want to stay at a 'production' version of FreeBSD. I'm currently running 4.8-RELEASE, which I installed via ftp over the Internet perhaps 2 weeks ago. All I want to do is have the latest ports, bugfixes and source code. I'm not interested in being on the 'bleeding edge'. I have used cvsupit to update my ports and base cources. Here is my /etc/cvsupfile: *default host=cvsup11.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_4 RELENG_4 gets you 4.8-STABLE. From what you say above, you probably want RELENG_4_8 which gets you 4.8-RELEASE-p3 at the moment. *default delete use-rel-suffix src-base *default tag=. ports-all doc-all The question is: How can I determine if it is necessary to do a 'make world'? If you're tracking 4.8-STABLE, then the sources are updated continuously, so you just do a cvsup and make world cycle at appropriate intervals in order to pick up any changes. If you're tracking 4.8-RELEASE-px, then subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] where any new patches to that branch will be announced, usually in the form of a security advisory. Or you can just run cvsup at intervals, and do a make world if there are any source changes or if /usr/src/UPDATING gains any new entries. Ports and doc are continually updated, and the only good ways to track updates to any ports you have installed are either to keep running cvsup at intervals, and look for modifications to the ports you've installed, or to subscribe at http://www.freshports.org/. If you cvsup your ports regularly, you can get everything up to date fairly automatically just by running: # cd /usr/ports # make index ( -or- portsdb -uU) # portupgrade -Nia Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Make world question
*default host=cvsup11.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_4 RELENG_4 gets you 4.8-STABLE. From what you say above, you probably want RELENG_4_8 which gets you 4.8-RELEASE-p3 at the moment. Thanks for a very informative reply! For clarity, would it be fair to say: 4.8-RELEASE-p3 is to 4.8-RELEASE as Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 is to Windows 2000? If so, then I would edit /etc/cvsupfile *before* running cvsup, and after that I would *definitly* 'make world'...? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Make world question
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 04:10:58PM -0500, Charles Howse wrote: *default host=cvsup11.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_4 RELENG_4 gets you 4.8-STABLE. From what you say above, you probably want RELENG_4_8 which gets you 4.8-RELEASE-p3 at the moment. Thanks for a very informative reply! For clarity, would it be fair to say: 4.8-RELEASE-p3 is to 4.8-RELEASE as Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 is to Windows 2000? Something like that, yes. If so, then I would edit /etc/cvsupfile *before* running cvsup, and after that I would *definitly* 'make world'...? Yes. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
