Re: Question about a specific ISP: Amen/Amenworld
At 02:31 PM 3/2/2007, Alexandre Vieira wrote: Hello folks, I'm interested in a dedicated server plan from a somewhat big company called Amenworld (www.amenworld.com) but the sales technician is telling me that amen technicians can't install freebsd on the machines. After some googling I found that they are hosting some freebsd machines (if this counts for anything). Is there anyone here that by any change is a client on this company and runs freebsd? Thanks in advance Regards -- Alexandre Vieira - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexandre, I know nothing about this company.. but just because a few boxes have FreeBSD doesn't mean they necessarily support it. It's possible to change from linux to FreeBSD on remote machine using utilities like: http://www.daemonology.net/depenguinator/ Hope that helps, Jeff P.S. Be warned, that utility re-images the disk, and can leave the machine in non-bootable state. Possibly forcing you to incur support fees from the ISP/Datacenter. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about a specific ISP: Amen/Amenworld
Personally, I would never consider a vendor that does not at least have a cursory knowledge of the platform I was using on a leased server. If they are miles away, I want someone with a clue to be my eyes an ears in the event of an emergency. I'd recommend going with a host who supports FreeBSD. Jeff Palmer wrote: At 02:31 PM 3/2/2007, Alexandre Vieira wrote: Hello folks, I'm interested in a dedicated server plan from a somewhat big company called Amenworld (www.amenworld.com) but the sales technician is telling me that amen technicians can't install freebsd on the machines. After some googling I found that they are hosting some freebsd machines (if this counts for anything). Is there anyone here that by any change is a client on this company and runs freebsd? Thanks in advance Regards -- Alexandre Vieira - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexandre, I know nothing about this company.. but just because a few boxes have FreeBSD doesn't mean they necessarily support it. It's possible to change from linux to FreeBSD on remote machine using utilities like: http://www.daemonology.net/depenguinator/ Hope that helps, Jeff P.S. Be warned, that utility re-images the disk, and can leave the machine in non-bootable state. Possibly forcing you to incur support fees from the ISP/Datacenter. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about a specific ISP: Amen/Amenworld
Hi Jack, I think it was Alexandre who was interested in a particular host in the UK and was debating bringing his business to a company who let him know outright that they do not support FreeBSD. Thanks though! Jack Raats wrote: Chris, You can try www.layeredtech.com . At theair facili tiesI 've two machines running FreeBSD and the service they offer is really great!!! Jack - Original Message - From: Chris Slothouber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: Re: Question about a specific ISP: Amen/Amenworld Personally, I would never consider a vendor that does not at least have a cursory knowledge of the platform I was using on a leased server. If they are miles away, I want someone with a clue to be my eyes an ears in the event of an emergency. I'd recommend going with a host who supports FreeBSD. Jeff Palmer wrote: At 02:31 PM 3/2/2007, Alexandre Vieira wrote: Hello folks, I'm interested in a dedicated server plan from a somewhat big company called Amenworld (www.amenworld.com) but the sales technician is telling me that amen technicians can't install freebsd on the machines. After some googling I found that they are hosting some freebsd machines (if this counts for anything). Is there anyone here that by any change is a client on this company and runs freebsd? Thanks in advance Regards -- Alexandre Vieira - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexandre, I know nothing about this company.. but just because a few boxes have FreeBSD doesn't mean they necessarily support it. It's possible to change from linux to FreeBSD on remote machine using utilities like: http://www.daemonology.net/depenguinator/ Hope that helps, Jeff P.S. Be warned, that utility re-images the disk, and can leave the machine in non-bootable state. Possibly forcing you to incur support fees from the ISP/Datacenter. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about a specific ISP: Amen/Amenworld
Chris, You can try www.layeredtech.com . At theair facili tiesI 've two machines running FreeBSD and the service they offer is really great!!! Jack - Original Message - From: Chris Slothouber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: Re: Question about a specific ISP: Amen/Amenworld Personally, I would never consider a vendor that does not at least have a cursory knowledge of the platform I was using on a leased server. If they are miles away, I want someone with a clue to be my eyes an ears in the event of an emergency. I'd recommend going with a host who supports FreeBSD. Jeff Palmer wrote: At 02:31 PM 3/2/2007, Alexandre Vieira wrote: Hello folks, I'm interested in a dedicated server plan from a somewhat big company called Amenworld (www.amenworld.com) but the sales technician is telling me that amen technicians can't install freebsd on the machines. After some googling I found that they are hosting some freebsd machines (if this counts for anything). Is there anyone here that by any change is a client on this company and runs freebsd? Thanks in advance Regards -- Alexandre Vieira - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexandre, I know nothing about this company.. but just because a few boxes have FreeBSD doesn't mean they necessarily support it. It's possible to change from linux to FreeBSD on remote machine using utilities like: http://www.daemonology.net/depenguinator/ Hope that helps, Jeff P.S. Be warned, that utility re-images the disk, and can leave the machine in non-bootable state. Possibly forcing you to incur support fees from the ISP/Datacenter. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about a specific ISP: Amen/Amenworld
On 3/5/07, Chris Slothouber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jack, I think it was Alexandre who was interested in a particular host in the UK and was debating bringing his business to a company who let him know outright that they do not support FreeBSD. Thanks though! Jack Raats wrote: Chris, You can try www.layeredtech.com . At theair facili tiesI 've two machines running FreeBSD and the service they offer is really great!!! Jack - Original Message - From: Chris Slothouber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: Re: Question about a specific ISP: Amen/Amenworld Personally, I would never consider a vendor that does not at least have a cursory knowledge of the platform I was using on a leased server. If they are miles away, I want someone with a clue to be my eyes an ears in the event of an emergency. I'd recommend going with a host who supports FreeBSD. Jeff Palmer wrote: At 02:31 PM 3/2/2007, Alexandre Vieira wrote: Hello folks, I'm interested in a dedicated server plan from a somewhat big company called Amenworld (www.amenworld.com) but the sales technician is telling me that amen technicians can't install freebsd on the machines. After some googling I found that they are hosting some freebsd machines (if this counts for anything). Is there anyone here that by any change is a client on this company and runs freebsd? Thanks in advance Regards -- Alexandre Vieira - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexandre, I know nothing about this company.. but just because a few boxes have FreeBSD doesn't mean they necessarily support it. It's possible to change from linux to FreeBSD on remote machine using utilities like: http://www.daemonology.net/depenguinator/ Hope that helps, Jeff P.S. Be warned, that utility re-images the disk, and can leave the machine in non-bootable state. Possibly forcing you to incur support fees from the ISP/Datacenter. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm interested in this specific company because the boxes are hosted in France and cprm.net (A big telco in Portugal) is an excelent carrier for France and UK. I have less than 50ms roundtrip time for this network. Also for 99eur/month you get a dual opteron w/ 2x160GB SATA2 disks, 1GB DDRII, linked to a 100mbps network (shared but burstable) with no traffic limit. But the guy who called me to help me with my questions doesn't understand much of anything and he tought Freebsd was a linux distro plus he refuses to either install freebsd on the machine or put a CD on the server tray and plug in a serial cable to the machine so I can install it. I don't even know how would I install freebsd without using depenguinator or going on site myself. I've tested depenguinator back in the 5.4 days with some friends, just for the kicks, but as someone said before.. I can't rely on a company that knows nothing about the technology i'll be using. If anyone know a good UK or Franch dedicated server provider, let me know :) Cheers -- Alexandre Vieira - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about a specific ISP: Amen/Amenworld
I'd recommend Leaseweb in Amsterdam. Their network has great connectivity to Europe and their prices are competitive for unmetered plans. http://www.leaseweb.com/index.php?p=dedicatedflatfee http://noc.leaseweb.com/cgi-bin/peers.pl Alexandre Vieira wrote: Personally, I would never consider a vendor that does not at least have a cursory knowledge of the platform I was using on a leased server. If they are miles away, I want someone with a clue to be my eyes an ears in the event of an emergency. I'd recommend going with a host who supports FreeBSD. I'm interested in this specific company because the boxes are hosted in France and cprm.net (A big telco in Portugal) is an excelent carrier for France and UK. I have less than 50ms roundtrip time for this network. Also for 99eur/month you get a dual opteron w/ 2x160GB SATA2 disks, 1GB DDRII, linked to a 100mbps network (shared but burstable) with no traffic limit. But the guy who called me to help me with my questions doesn't understand much of anything and he tought Freebsd was a linux distro plus he refuses to either install freebsd on the machine or put a CD on the server tray and plug in a serial cable to the machine so I can install it. I don't even know how would I install freebsd without using depenguinator or going on site myself. I've tested depenguinator back in the 5.4 days with some friends, just for the kicks, but as someone said before.. I can't rely on a company that knows nothing about the technology i'll be using. If anyone know a good UK or Franch dedicated server provider, let me know :) Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about a specific ISP: Amen/Amenworld
On 3/5/07, Chris Slothouber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd recommend Leaseweb in Amsterdam. Their network has great connectivity to Europe and their prices are competitive for unmetered plans. http://www.leaseweb.com/index.php?p=dedicatedflatfee http://noc.leaseweb.com/cgi-bin/peers.pl Alexandre Vieira wrote: Personally, I would never consider a vendor that does not at least have a cursory knowledge of the platform I was using on a leased server. If they are miles away, I want someone with a clue to be my eyes an ears in the event of an emergency. I'd recommend going with a host who supports FreeBSD. I'm interested in this specific company because the boxes are hosted in France and cprm.net (A big telco in Portugal) is an excelent carrier for France and UK. I have less than 50ms roundtrip time for this network. Also for 99eur/month you get a dual opteron w/ 2x160GB SATA2 disks, 1GB DDRII, linked to a 100mbps network (shared but burstable) with no traffic limit. But the guy who called me to help me with my questions doesn't understand much of anything and he tought Freebsd was a linux distro plus he refuses to either install freebsd on the machine or put a CD on the server tray and plug in a serial cable to the machine so I can install it. I don't even know how would I install freebsd without using depenguinator or going on site myself. I've tested depenguinator back in the 5.4 days with some friends, just for the kicks, but as someone said before.. I can't rely on a company that knows nothing about the technology i'll be using. If anyone know a good UK or Franch dedicated server provider, let me know :) Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the feebback Chris. I've took a look and the prices are very reasonable as well, but still.. it's more expensive (equivalent hardware) and the latency for Portugal is higher. If I can't get my way around the folks at amenworld this is my second best solution. 64 bytes from www.amen.pt (62.193.207.153): icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=46.443msec 64 bytes from www.leaseweb.com (83.149.80.111): icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time= 57.091 msec Cheers -- Alexandre Vieira - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about a specific ISP: Amen/Amenworld
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Depends on the host ... I've gone with two so far in Panama (Central America) where they are Windows/Linux shops, and the support I've had from both places were exemplary ... some of the staff picks it up very quickly, others you have to walk through a bit more, but in all cases, I've been most happy with the support I've received from a non-FreeBS host ... Our newer servers now have built in remote consoles, so my need for someone to play with the OS itself has significantly drop'd, except for the older servers ... for the newer ones, its mostly 'hardware related' ... - --On Monday, March 05, 2007 10:21:03 -0500 Chris Slothouber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I would never consider a vendor that does not at least have a cursory knowledge of the platform I was using on a leased server. If they are miles away, I want someone with a clue to be my eyes an ears in the event of an emergency. I'd recommend going with a host who supports FreeBSD. Jeff Palmer wrote: At 02:31 PM 3/2/2007, Alexandre Vieira wrote: Hello folks, I'm interested in a dedicated server plan from a somewhat big company called Amenworld (www.amenworld.com) but the sales technician is telling me that amen technicians can't install freebsd on the machines. After some googling I found that they are hosting some freebsd machines (if this counts for anything). Is there anyone here that by any change is a client on this company and runs freebsd? Thanks in advance Regards -- Alexandre Vieira - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alexandre, I know nothing about this company.. but just because a few boxes have FreeBSD doesn't mean they necessarily support it. It's possible to change from linux to FreeBSD on remote machine using utilities like: http://www.daemonology.net/depenguinator/ Hope that helps, Jeff P.S. Be warned, that utility re-images the disk, and can leave the machine in non-bootable state. Possibly forcing you to incur support fees from the ISP/Datacenter. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF7OJ54QvfyHIvDvMRAnWgAKCZVnYnrnsOGzVn2CAOWA+mEZhv/ACgzUPG q+DrRJKQBt5LtTj6RvJkEkI= =MfJk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
