Re: Xfree86 Config Problems

2003-06-24 Thread bsd
Thanks for prompt reply, guys.  I enjoy this community, but hate the install.  

While I didn't mention it in my email, I did try this as well:
  # XFree86 -configure
And it didn't work.  Gave me X cursor in gray screen and could not get out.

As for checking for multiple config files, how would I know?  Where would I find them? 
What would I do with them all, just rm them?  What if I found more than one?  How do I 
know which one is being used?  Why so many config utils?  Why are there so many 
possible locations? 

This is my first install of BSD, and while I've installed Linux a dozen times, I don't 
know where to find things in BSD.  I'm overwhelmed and frustrated.  Please walk me 
through the steps before I give up on BSD.  

I wonder if my S3 Savage 2000 video card is supported, even though it was on the list. 
 I saw many posts about S3 problems, none with obvious solutions.  I could use the 
FreeBSD 5.1 Release if that would help.  I saw this link about S3 Savage at 
http://www.xfree86.org/support.html a private developer at  
http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html where he says:  xvideo on the Savage2000 
still seems to be broken. I don't know when I'll be able to get around to this. 

Thus far, the install process is overly complicated and not inviting to new users.  I 
could provide specific feedback on this if anyone wants it.


From Viktor Lazlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 23 Jun 2003:

 
 
 On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
http://cgisleve.tripod.com/bsd/xfreebad.html is a web page of this info.
 
  XFree86 Configuration Problems
  by Steve LeBlanc © 2003.6.22
  Installed FreeBSD for first time.  Text login was fine. NIC worked.
 Did a telnet and ftp to computers on the Internet. All seemed to work
 except for configuring XFree86. No screen found when I did startx. Below
 are the details:
 
  The full commented files: XF86Config.txt and XFreelog.txt
 
  Settings
  XFree86 Ver:4.2.1 
  Release Date: 3 September 2002
  OS: FreeBSD 5.0 RELEASE
  Video: S3 Savage2000 (generic) 64MB, 3D
  Monitor: Cornea MT1700 17 LCD H: 31.5-80, V: 56-75
 
 
  After install I tried both: xf86cfg -textmode and xf86config to
  reconfigure. I read the docs deeply and redid this 15 times, using the
  various command line tools. Each of the last 10 times, I typed in my
  settings and selected my Graphics card from the list. I just can't get
  startx to work. Below are my XF86Config file and my XFree log file,
 with comments removed.
 
  Fatal server error:
  no screens found
 
 Check the handbook:
 
 5.4.2 Configuring XFree86 4.X
 
Configuration of XFree86 4.X is a multi-step process. The first step
 
 is to build an initial configuration file with the -configure option to
 XFree86.   As the super user, simply run:
 
  # XFree86 -configure
 
 Cheers,
 
 Viktor


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RE: Xfree86 Config Problems

2003-06-24 Thread Timms, Simon
sounds like you are doing pretty good.  If you are getting the gray screen
and black X then your video card is supported and you have started X.  What
you are missing is a window manager.  I don't know what window manager you
want but give fluxbox a try, it is in the ports collection.  If you want
something a little heavier try KDE or GNOME.  I am aware that KDE/Gnome
aren't window managers, thank you.  Once you have installed a window manager
they edit your .xinitrc and add a call to your window manager (exec startkde
for kde, exec fluxbox for fluxbox).  Check the archive of this list somebody
has done a good walk though for this before.  If you do install kde from
ports then allow a good few hours for it to finish.

try:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html the
friendly handbook for some good examples.  

good luck!



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Xfree86 Config Problems


Thanks for prompt reply, guys.  I enjoy this community, but hate the
install.  

While I didn't mention it in my email, I did try this as well:
  # XFree86 -configure
And it didn't work.  Gave me X cursor in gray screen and could not get out.

As for checking for multiple config files, how would I know?  Where would I
find them? What would I do with them all, just rm them?  What if I found
more than one?  How do I know which one is being used?  Why so many config
utils?  Why are there so many possible locations? 

This is my first install of BSD, and while I've installed Linux a dozen
times, I don't know where to find things in BSD.  I'm overwhelmed and
frustrated.  Please walk me through the steps before I give up on BSD.  

I wonder if my S3 Savage 2000 video card is supported, even though it was on
the list.  I saw many posts about S3 problems, none with obvious solutions.
I could use the FreeBSD 5.1 Release if that would help.  I saw this link
about S3 Savage at http://www.xfree86.org/support.html a private developer
at  http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html where he says:  xvideo on the
Savage2000 still seems to be broken. I don't know when I'll be able to get
around to this. 

Thus far, the install process is overly complicated and not inviting to new
users.  I could provide specific feedback on this if anyone wants it.


From Viktor Lazlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 23 Jun 2003:

 
 
 On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
http://cgisleve.tripod.com/bsd/xfreebad.html is a web page of this info.
 
  XFree86 Configuration Problems
  by Steve LeBlanc © 2003.6.22
  Installed FreeBSD for first time.  Text login was fine. NIC worked.
 Did a telnet and ftp to computers on the Internet. All seemed to work
 except for configuring XFree86. No screen found when I did startx. Below
 are the details:
 
  The full commented files: XF86Config.txt and XFreelog.txt
 
  Settings
  XFree86 Ver:4.2.1 
  Release Date: 3 September 2002
  OS: FreeBSD 5.0 RELEASE
  Video: S3 Savage2000 (generic) 64MB, 3D
  Monitor: Cornea MT1700 17 LCD H: 31.5-80, V: 56-75
 
 
  After install I tried both: xf86cfg -textmode and xf86config to
  reconfigure. I read the docs deeply and redid this 15 times, using the
  various command line tools. Each of the last 10 times, I typed in my
  settings and selected my Graphics card from the list. I just can't get
  startx to work. Below are my XF86Config file and my XFree log file,
 with comments removed.
 
  Fatal server error:
  no screens found
 
 Check the handbook:
 
 5.4.2 Configuring XFree86 4.X
 
Configuration of XFree86 4.X is a multi-step process. The first step
 
 is to build an initial configuration file with the -configure option to
 XFree86.   As the super user, simply run:
 
  # XFree86 -configure
 
 Cheers,
 
 Viktor


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RE: Xfree86 Config Problems

2003-06-24 Thread Jud
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:00:27 -0600, Timms, Simon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 sounds like you are doing pretty good.  If you are getting the gray
 screen
 and black X then your video card is supported and you have started X. 
 What
 you are missing is a window manager.  I don't know what window manager
 you
 want but give fluxbox a try, it is in the ports collection.  If you want
 something a little heavier try KDE or GNOME.  I am aware that KDE/Gnome
 aren't window managers, thank you.  Once you have installed a window
 manager
 they edit your .xinitrc and add a call to your window manager (exec
 startkde
 for kde, exec fluxbox for fluxbox).  Check the archive of this list
 somebody
 has done a good walk though for this before.  If you do install kde from
 ports then allow a good few hours for it to finish.
 
 try:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html the
 friendly handbook for some good examples.  
 
 good luck!

A *very* helpful article:

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/06/21/FreeBSD_Basics.html

In fact, the whole FreeBSD Basics series on O'Reilly's Onlamp.com is
excellent.  You might want to scan the topics that have been covered in
the 3 years the series has been running to see what else is relevant to
your situation.

Jud

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:22 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Xfree86 Config Problems
 
 
 Thanks for prompt reply, guys.  I enjoy this community, but hate the
 install.  
 
 While I didn't mention it in my email, I did try this as well:
   # XFree86 -configure
 And it didn't work.  Gave me X cursor in gray screen and could not get
 out.
 
 As for checking for multiple config files, how would I know?  Where would
 I
 find them? What would I do with them all, just rm them?  What if I found
 more than one?  How do I know which one is being used?  Why so many
 config
 utils?  Why are there so many possible locations? 
 
 This is my first install of BSD, and while I've installed Linux a dozen
 times, I don't know where to find things in BSD.  I'm overwhelmed and
 frustrated.  Please walk me through the steps before I give up on BSD.  
 
 I wonder if my S3 Savage 2000 video card is supported, even though it was
 on
 the list.  I saw many posts about S3 problems, none with obvious
 solutions.
 I could use the FreeBSD 5.1 Release if that would help.  I saw this link
 about S3 Savage at http://www.xfree86.org/support.html a private
 developer
 at  http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html where he says:  xvideo on
 the
 Savage2000 still seems to be broken. I don't know when I'll be able to
 get
 around to this. 
 
 Thus far, the install process is overly complicated and not inviting to
 new
 users.  I could provide specific feedback on this if anyone wants it.
 
 
 From Viktor Lazlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 23 Jun 2003:
 
  
  
  On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 http://cgisleve.tripod.com/bsd/xfreebad.html is a web page of this info.
  
   XFree86 Configuration Problems
   by Steve LeBlanc © 2003.6.22
   Installed FreeBSD for first time.  Text login was fine. NIC worked.
  Did a telnet and ftp to computers on the Internet. All seemed to work
  except for configuring XFree86. No screen found when I did startx. Below
  are the details:
  
   The full commented files: XF86Config.txt and XFreelog.txt
  
   Settings
   XFree86 Ver:4.2.1 
   Release Date: 3 September 2002
   OS: FreeBSD 5.0 RELEASE
   Video: S3 Savage2000 (generic) 64MB, 3D
   Monitor: Cornea MT1700 17 LCD H: 31.5-80, V: 56-75
  
  
   After install I tried both: xf86cfg -textmode and xf86config to
   reconfigure. I read the docs deeply and redid this 15 times, using the
   various command line tools. Each of the last 10 times, I typed in my
   settings and selected my Graphics card from the list. I just can't get
   startx to work. Below are my XF86Config file and my XFree log file,
  with comments removed.
  
   Fatal server error:
   no screens found
  
  Check the handbook:
  
  5.4.2 Configuring XFree86 4.X
  
 Configuration of XFree86 4.X is a multi-step process. The first step
  
  is to build an initial configuration file with the -configure option to
  XFree86.   As the super user, simply run:
  
   # XFree86 -configure
  
  Cheers,
  
  Viktor
 
 
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Re: Xfree86 Config Problems

2003-06-23 Thread Jud
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 01:44:46 -0700 (PDT), Viktor Lazlo 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://cgisleve.tripod.com/bsd/xfreebad.html is a web page of this info.

XFree86 Configuration Problems
by Steve LeBlanc  2003.6.22
Installed FreeBSD for first time.  Text login was fine. NIC worked. Did 
a telnet and ftp to computers on the Internet. All seemed to work except 
for configuring XFree86. No screen found when I did startx. Below are 
the details:

The full commented files: XF86Config.txt and XFreelog.txt

Settings
XFree86 Ver:4.2.1 (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 3 September 2002
Motherboard: ECS K7S5A, 40GB drive, 256 Ram
OS: FreeBSD 5.0 RELEASE
Video: S3 Savage2000 (generic) 64MB, 3D
Monitor: Cornea MT1700 17 LCD H: 31.5-80, V: 56-75
After install I tried both: xf86cfg -textmode and xf86config to
reconfigure. I read the docs deeply and redid this 15 times, using the
various command line tools. Each of the last 10 times, I typed in my
settings and selected my Graphics card from the list. I just can't get
startx to work. Below are my XF86Config file and my XFree log file, with
comments removed.
Fatal server error:
no screens found
Check the handbook:

5.4.2 Configuring XFree86 4.X

Configuration of XFree86 4.X is a multi-step process. The first step is 
to
build an initial configuration file with the -configure option to 
XFree86.
As the super user, simply run:

# XFree86 -configure

Cheers,

Viktor
Check as well to see if you have multiple config files and are working hard 
to alter the one the system *isn't* using.

Jud

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