Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?
On Sunday 05 September 2004 11:13 am, Gary Kline wrote:
On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 11:43:59PM -0700, kstewart wrote:
Can you check your pkg list and list the mozilla
and java ports? --If thr linuxpluginwrapper will
magically make FBSD mozilla work:: WOW!
The thing is that RealPlayer, Adobe, flash, and etc. or all linux apps. I
think the wrapper is just as important as the x-wrapper is to run as
non-root.
When I installed it, and followed the instructions, I could use acrobat,
and some of the flash/shockwave stuff in both konqueror and mozilla.
Realplay never showed up in the plugin list for mozilla but I can go to a
site that has *.ram files and click them and hear the music.
Konqueror is really anal when it comes to getting rid of kmplayer as the
defautl. I can also visit the same site as mozilla and play the *.ram
files.
The thing is that I moved rpnp.so into so many places that I don't know
what made mozilla work. I got the idea from the links in the about plugin
link on mozilla help. It was basically any place that locate claimed to
be a mozilla plugin directory. It was finally - well, I give up, let see
what it does and it worked. I don't have a clue what fixed it because I
was looking for it in the plugin list and it never showed up.
Kent
Sounds somewhat like my experience with getting things to
Just Work {TM}. Took me altogether several days to get
java, javavm, jdk,sdk, whatevertheheck to work with
l-mozilla and the flashplugin and acrobat and realplayer.
Now it works; but installing it on my laptop is more than
a chore-and-a-half. Not worth the effort. Maybe someday
I'll figure it out and put together a cookbook tutorial.
Make it my life's goal to keep it current... .
I have discovered a couple of things about Mozilla. The java-vm problem from
Mozilla that I was seeing was probably occuring because I had 3 versions of
java installed. I had diablo-*-1.3.1*, jdk-1.3-*, and jdk-1.4*. When I
pkg_deleted the 1.3* versions, and reinstalled RealPlayer8, I had both
realplay and java-vm activity. I probably didn't have to reinstall realplayer
but I did it anyway. I think that just running the mime and plugin scripts
are all you need to run.
There seems to be an initialization problem with RealPlayer. The first time
you try to run it, it thinks the audio device is busy, but the second time
and on it played the *.ram files from the web pages I visit frequently.
BTW, I think that everytime you change your plugins, you have to click the
about plugins option under the Mozilla's help menu item for mozilla to scan
for new ones.
RealPlayer8 is also working for me from kde's konqueror.
Kent
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Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 14:27:19 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 02:56:35PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 12:17:02 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounding more hopeful. Can you please post your mplayer configuration? Or give me some hints on howto replace realplay with mplayer with mozilla? It would be nice to have FBSD versions of every tool, plug-in or otherwise. (Be nice to have Java plugins for mozilla, but Sun has its corporate head up where the sun don' shine... *sigh*) I have nothing special in my config for it. There is a mplayer plugin for mozilla in the ports. AFAIK the plugin for java comes with the java ports. Do you mean for linux-mozilla (1.5, yes?), or the FBSD mozilla? Be great if I could work with the native ports; last time I checked, only linux-* had the goodies. I would assume that the native java would work with the native mozilla. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?
On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 07:52:14PM -0700, kstewart wrote: On Saturday 04 September 2004 07:43 pm, kstewart wrote: What java plugin are you talking about? Not a plugin but whatever jdk-* supports java in its many uses. javascript and whatever else. On my laptop I have netscape7 which appears to come with everything pre-built and -installed. Given my druthers, I rather use mozilla. I have java running in mozilla. Did you also install linuxpluginwrapper-20040831 and follow the instructions? Never mind. I went back to a place that always worked with mozilla and it doesn't now. If you choose help and about plugins, the java stuff shows up but it isn't working Kent (*** censored ***) :-) gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?
On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 11:43:59PM -0700, kstewart wrote:
Can you check your pkg list and list the mozilla
and java ports? --If thr linuxpluginwrapper will
magically make FBSD mozilla work:: WOW!
The thing is that RealPlayer, Adobe, flash, and etc. or all linux apps. I
think the wrapper is just as important as the x-wrapper is to run as
non-root.
When I installed it, and followed the instructions, I could use acrobat, and
some of the flash/shockwave stuff in both konqueror and mozilla. Realplay
never showed up in the plugin list for mozilla but I can go to a site that
has *.ram files and click them and hear the music.
Konqueror is really anal when it comes to getting rid of kmplayer as the
defautl. I can also visit the same site as mozilla and play the *.ram files.
The thing is that I moved rpnp.so into so many places that I don't know what
made mozilla work. I got the idea from the links in the about plugin link on
mozilla help. It was basically any place that locate claimed to be a
mozilla plugin directory. It was finally - well, I give up, let see what it
does and it worked. I don't have a clue what fixed it because I was looking
for it in the plugin list and it never showed up.
Kent
Sounds somewhat like my experience with getting things to
Just Work {TM}. Took me altogether several days to get
java, javavm, jdk,sdk, whatevertheheck to work with
l-mozilla and the flashplugin and acrobat and realplayer.
Now it works; but installing it on my laptop is more than
a chore-and-a-half. Not worth the effort. Maybe someday
I'll figure it out and put together a cookbook tutorial.
Make it my life's goal to keep it current... .
gary
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Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?
On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 11:13:57 -0700
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds somewhat like my experience with getting things to
Just Work {TM}. Took me altogether several days to get
java, javavm, jdk,sdk, whatevertheheck to work with
l-mozilla and the flashplugin and acrobat and realplayer.
Now it works; but installing it on my laptop is more than
a chore-and-a-half. Not worth the effort. Maybe someday
I'll figure it out and put together a cookbook tutorial.
Make it my life's goal to keep it current... .
For pdf and mozilla, I just use xpdf and have it set to feed that file
to xpdf if I click on one.
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Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 01:25:38 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there any open source version of the Real Audio player? or a translator that takes the input or ra[m] and creates a wav|mp3 stream? Also,is anything is the works to create a (*ick*) Windoze version of their player for the Unix user? IIRC mencoder (which is part of mplayer) can do that. There's also this new project from Real called Helix ( https://helixcommunity.org/ ). I know somebody is already working on a port. You can still use the closed source linux version of Real Player as well, but only for replay, no transcode AFAIK. I'd give mencoder a try, I've used it in the past to convert between video formats and it works very well. Anybody out there:-) ? Definitely :) Cheers, -- Miguel Mendez [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.energyhq.es.eu.org PGP Key: 0xDC8514F1 Note: All HTML and non-english mail goes to /dev/null ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 10:52:55 +0200 Miguel Mendez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 01:25:38 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there any open source version of the Real Audio player? or a translator that takes the input or ra[m] and creates a wav|mp3 stream? Also,is anything is the works to create a (*ick*) Windoze version of their player for the Unix user? IIRC mencoder (which is part of mplayer) can do that. There's also this new project from Real called Helix ( https://helixcommunity.org/ ). I know somebody is already working on a port. You can still use the closed source linux version of Real Player as well, but only for replay, no transcode AFAIK. I'd give mencoder a try, I've used it in the past to convert between video formats and it works very well. AFAIK the closed source one from real is no longer fetchable... But mplayer handles nearly all real files properly, so I don't see a problem with using it. The only problem I have ran into is using mplayer with some old episodes of Daria I have on disk in which the audio gets horridly out of sync. But other than those few, it has all ways worked nicely. BTW for doing audio dumps of streams, mplayer works nicely. You can just dump to pcm using -ao pcm. Not really sure how to directly get it to dump to a mp3 file... AFAIK it will dump to a avi with no video and just a audio stream for doing audio only? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?
On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 10:52:55AM +0200, Miguel Mendez wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 01:25:38 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there any open source version of the Real Audio player? or a translator that takes the input or ra[m] and creates a wav|mp3 stream? Also,is anything is the works to create a (*ick*) Windoze version of their player for the Unix user? IIRC mencoder (which is part of mplayer) can do that. Can anyone clue me in further re mplayer? (I tried it N months ago, got stuck, went back to other players. ...maybe i got something working, i forget. ) There's also this new project from Real called Helix ( https://helixcommunity.org/ ). I know somebody is already working on a port. Do you mean a port of Real? or Helix? I saw the Helix stuff on the realaudio.com site; never got back to it. You can still use the closed source linux version of Real Player as well, but only for replay, no transcode AFAIK. I'd give mencoder a try, I've used it in the past to convert between video formats and it works very well. Anybody out there:-) ? Definitely :) Great! have a good one, gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 12:17:02 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounding more hopeful. Can you please post your mplayer configuration? Or give me some hints on howto replace realplay with mplayer with mozilla? It would be nice to have FBSD versions of every tool, plug-in or otherwise. (Be nice to have Java plugins for mozilla, but Sun has its corporate head up where the sun don' shine... *sigh*) I have nothing special in my config for it. There is a mplayer plugin for mozilla in the ports. AFAIK the plugin for java comes with the java ports. BTW for doing audio dumps of streams, mplayer works nicely. You can just dump to pcm using -ao pcm. Not really sure how to directly get it to dump to a mp3 file... AFAIK it will dump to a avi with no video and just a audio stream for doing audio only? What I would like to do it create either a CLI script or tk/tcl GUI app to record some_stream at Begintime until Endtime. Output to /usr/local/tmp. Most online streams like from NPR and BBC are archived, but not all. Cool, yeah, just dump it to disk as pcm and convert it to what ever or just dump it to avi. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?
On Saturday 04 September 2004 12:17 pm, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 01:27:45PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 10:52:55 +0200 Miguel Mendez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 01:25:38 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there any open source version of the Real Audio player? or a translator that takes the input or ra[m] and creates a wav|mp3 stream? Also,is anything is the works to create a (*ick*) Windoze version of their player for the Unix user? IIRC mencoder (which is part of mplayer) can do that. There's also this new project from Real called Helix ( https://helixcommunity.org/ ). I know somebody is already working on a port. You can still use the closed source linux version of Real Player as well, but only for replay, no transcode AFAIK. I'd give mencoder a try, I've used it in the past to convert between video formats and it works very well. AFAIK the closed source one from real is no longer fetchable... But mplayer handles nearly all real files properly, so I don't see a problem with using it. The only problem I have ran into is using mplayer with some old episodes of Daria I have on disk in which the audio gets horridly out of sync. But other than those few, it has all ways worked nicely. Sounding more hopeful. Can you please post your mplayer configuration? Or give me some hints on howto replace realplay with mplayer with mozilla? It would be nice to have FBSD versions of every tool, plug-in or otherwise. (Be nice to have Java plugins for mozilla, but Sun has its corporate head up where the sun don' shine... *sigh*) What java plugin are you talking about? I have a volcano in México called Popocatépetl that I follow and I need a javavm plugin setup for mozilla.The page used to work with mozilla and not konqueror but now it works with konqueror and not mozilla. RealPlayer8 work with both of them but works much better with mozilla. I got irritated with my setup while I was typing this and fixed konqueror so that it would default to realplay on *.ram files. Kent BTW for doing audio dumps of streams, mplayer works nicely. You can just dump to pcm using -ao pcm. Not really sure how to directly get it to dump to a mp3 file... AFAIK it will dump to a avi with no video and just a audio stream for doing audio only? What I would like to do it create either a CLI script or tk/tcl GUI app to record some_stream at Begintime until Endtime. Output to /usr/local/tmp. Most online streams like from NPR and BBC are archived, but not all. gary -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html Support the Bison at http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?
On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 02:56:35PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 12:17:02 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounding more hopeful. Can you please post your mplayer configuration? Or give me some hints on howto replace realplay with mplayer with mozilla? It would be nice to have FBSD versions of every tool, plug-in or otherwise. (Be nice to have Java plugins for mozilla, but Sun has its corporate head up where the sun don' shine... *sigh*) I have nothing special in my config for it. There is a mplayer plugin for mozilla in the ports. AFAIK the plugin for java comes with the java ports. Do you mean for linux-mozilla (1.5, yes?), or the FBSD mozilla? Be great if I could work with the native ports; last time I checked, only linux-* had the goodies. BTW for doing audio dumps of streams, mplayer works nicely. You can just dump to pcm using -ao pcm. Not really sure how to directly get it to dump to a mp3 file... AFAIK it will dump to a avi with no video and just a audio stream for doing audio only? What I would like to do it create either a CLI script or tk/tcl GUI app to record some_stream at Begintime until Endtime. Output to /usr/local/tmp. Most online streams like from NPR and BBC are archived, but not all. Cool, yeah, just dump it to disk as pcm and convert it to what ever or just dump it to avi. I'll check it out, thanks much. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 13:30:29 -0700 kstewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What java plugin are you talking about? Should come with the java sdk. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?
On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 14:27:19 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 02:56:35PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 12:17:02 -0700 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounding more hopeful. Can you please post your mplayer configuration? Or give me some hints on howto replace realplay with mplayer with mozilla? It would be nice to have FBSD versions of every tool, plug-in or otherwise. (Be nice to have Java plugins for mozilla, but Sun has its corporate head up where the sun don' shine... *sigh*) I have nothing special in my config for it. There is a mplayer plugin for mozilla in the ports. AFAIK the plugin for java comes with the java ports. Do you mean for linux-mozilla (1.5, yes?), or the FBSD mozilla? Be great if I could work with the native ports; last time I checked, only linux-* had the goodies. Not really messed with it, but what about the native JDK, btw there is also a plugin wrapper. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?
On Saturday 04 September 2004 02:43 pm, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 01:30:29PM -0700, kstewart wrote: On Saturday 04 September 2004 12:17 pm, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 01:27:45PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 10:52:55 +0200 Sounding more hopeful. Can you please post your mplayer configuration? Or give me some hints on howto replace realplay with mplayer with mozilla? It would be nice to have FBSD versions of every tool, plug-in or otherwise. (Be nice to have Java plugins for mozilla, but Sun has its corporate head up where the sun don' shine... *sigh*) What java plugin are you talking about? Not a plugin but whatever jdk-* supports java in its many uses. javascript and whatever else. On my laptop I have netscape7 which appears to come with everything pre-built and -installed. Given my druthers, I rather use mozilla. I have java running in mozilla. Did you also install linuxpluginwrapper-20040831 and follow the instructions? I have a volcano in México called Popocatépetl that I follow and I need a javavm plugin setup for mozilla.The page used to work with mozilla and not konqueror but now it works with konqueror and not mozilla. RealPlayer8 work with both of them but works much better with mozilla. I got irritated with my setup while I was typing this and fixed konqueror so that it would default to realplay on *.ram files. Have you used links -g? I finally figured out howto get both realplay and xmms|zink to work with this browser. Happened to discover that Real does play mp3's. Works with Shoutcast. Will have to look into this. Next step is to see if I can get mplayer going. -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html Support the Bison at http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is there an 'open-source' RealPlayer?
On Saturday 04 September 2004 07:43 pm, kstewart wrote: What java plugin are you talking about? Not a plugin but whatever jdk-* supports java in its many uses. javascript and whatever else. On my laptop I have netscape7 which appears to come with everything pre-built and -installed. Given my druthers, I rather use mozilla. I have java running in mozilla. Did you also install linuxpluginwrapper-20040831 and follow the instructions? Never mind. I went back to a place that always worked with mozilla and it doesn't now. If you choose help and about plugins, the java stuff shows up but it isn't working Kent I have a volcano in México called Popocatépetl that I follow and I need a javavm plugin setup for mozilla.The page used to work with mozilla and not konqueror but now it works with konqueror and not mozilla. RealPlayer8 work with both of them but works much better with mozilla. I got irritated with my setup while I was typing this and fixed konqueror so that it would default to realplay on *.ram files. Have you used links -g? I finally figured out howto get both realplay and xmms|zink to work with this browser. Happened to discover that Real does play mp3's. Works with Shoutcast. Will have to look into this. Next step is to see if I can get mplayer going. -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html Support the Bison at http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
