Setting up a domain
Does anyone know where I can find nice tutorial materials for setting up domains is just that I got this task setting up new domains on freebsd and I need a rreview on hoe to go about it mybe u guys can help man please am new to thise work and my boss said I need to do it coz the other guy who use to do it is on leave I don want to mess it up. Ananias Uushona Technical Assistant Africa Online Namibia http://www.africaonline.com.na No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.2/933 - Release Date: 8/2/2007 2:22 PM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting up a domain
Is this for web site domain setting ? DNS, Web server etc etc ... Thanks Troy http://dominor.com On 8/3/07, Ananias Uushona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know where I can find nice tutorial materials for setting up domains is just that I got this task setting up new domains on freebsd and I need a rreview on hoe to go about it mybe u guys can help man please am new to thise work and my boss said I need to do it coz the other guy who use to do it is on leave I don want to mess it up. Ananias Uushona Technical Assistant Africa Online Namibia http://www.africaonline.com.na No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.2/933 - Release Date: 8/2/2007 2:22 PM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting up own domain and mailserver
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 08:56:01PM -0800, Luke wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, RL wrote: 1. I have adelphia cable internet. I would like to get a dyndns or no-ip.com account to have a static IP for my new godaddy domain. Simple enough. However, I would like to also do my own DNS to learn more about it. Will I be able to do this if I set my nameserver on godaddy to my box's dyndns address? And from there can I set up A records, MX Records, etc and all that good stuff? For a domain name to be effective, you need a public and highly referenced source to map your name to your IP address. You certainly need a DNS server. That's what these public registrars do. The registrar certainly puts an NS record in the top-level zone file. Beyond that, some of them no doubt provide nameservice for an extra fee, or are associated with some DNS provider. But registration of the name and provision of DNS are separate issues. You want them to map your name to your address. You can't move that service to your own box because... well.. how would anybody find you in the first place? While your conclusion might be true for the OP (we have established elsewhere that he almost certainly can't do what he was hoping he could), it's not about being able to find his machine. If he fulfilled the technical requirements (static IP addresses, more than one host providing DNS), he certainly could point the world at his own box by nominating it, and another, as the namerservers with his registrar. Technically you can do SOME of the domain service yourself if you're running a network. Public DNS servers might get them to yourdomain.com, and then you could direct them to machine1.yourdomain.com, machine2.yourdomain.com, etc. but you probably don't have any need for something like that at home. Unless you're describing port redirection of some kind, you're describing the OP doing his own DNS. I think we've ruled that out. You can run your own DNS service to do lookups for yourself though, and it's a fun way to learn about how the global system works. Check out the sections of the FreeBSD Handbook on BIND. Running DNS for a small network in my home was pretty educational for me. I agree. Running BIND on your own network is a good exercise. 3. I would also like to run my own mailserver for that domain (again to learn). Would I be able to do this and send receive email from/to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know most ISPs block port 25 and no-ip.com has a pay service called mail reflector that can get around this. Is this necessary? Why couldn't I just set up sendmail to use a port other than 25 like 8080? Sending isn't the problem. You can send from just about any port you want. It's receiving that's the problem. When a mail server tries to deliver mail to mynewdomain.com, it's going to be looking for your mail server on port 25, because that's the standard. It's just like how your web browser always goes looking for a web server on port 80 when you contact another machine. Unless there's some trick you can do with the MX records for your domain to advertise to the world that your mail server is running on a nonstandard port, There is no such trick. I don't know how you could get around the receiving problem if your ISP blocks incoming connections to port 25, short of having some external service like those you've mentioned cache the mail for you. As an aside, are there still ISPs that do this? How draconian. -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgplm4gSER3KN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Setting up own domain and mailserver
I was hoping somebody more knowledgable than me would answer your questions. Maybe than did and I lost it in all the spam. I've been intrigued by these same topics for awhile and I've learned a little bit. I'll share what I've figured out below. On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, RL wrote: 1. I have adelphia cable internet. I would like to get a dyndns or no-ip.com account to have a static IP for my new godaddy domain. Simple enough. However, I would like to also do my own DNS to learn more about it. Will I be able to do this if I set my nameserver on godaddy to my box's dyndns address? And from there can I set up A records, MX Records, etc and all that good stuff? For a domain name to be effective, you need a public and highly referenced source to map your name to your IP address. That's what these public registrars do. You want them to map your name to your address. You can't move that service to your own box because... well.. how would anybody find you in the first place? Technically you can do SOME of the domain service yourself if you're running a network. Public DNS servers might get them to yourdomain.com, and then you could direct them to machine1.yourdomain.com, machine2.yourdomain.com, etc. but you probably don't have any need for something like that at home. You can run your own DNS service to do lookups for yourself though, and it's a fun way to learn about how the global system works. Check out the sections of the FreeBSD Handbook on BIND. Running DNS for a small network in my home was pretty educational for me. 2. What about reverse DNS? Could I possibly do that on my box? It's possible to have any number of names pointing to a single IP address, but that IP address is only going to reverse-map to one name, and that name is going to be one of Adelphia's names I'm afraid. 3. I would also like to run my own mailserver for that domain (again to learn). Would I be able to do this and send receive email from/to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know most ISPs block port 25 and no-ip.com has a pay service called mail reflector that can get around this. Is this necessary? Why couldn't I just set up sendmail to use a port other than 25 like 8080? Sending isn't the problem. You can send from just about any port you want. It's receiving that's the problem. When a mail server tries to deliver mail to mynewdomain.com, it's going to be looking for your mail server on port 25, because that's the standard. It's just like how your web browser always goes looking for a web server on port 80 when you contact another machine. Unless there's some trick you can do with the MX records for your domain to advertise to the world that your mail server is running on a nonstandard port, I don't know how you could get around the receiving problem if your ISP blocks incoming connections to port 25, short of having some external service like those you've mentioned cache the mail for you. I'm no expert - just somebody who's spent some time fooling around with this stuff. If I've told you anything wrong, hopefully somebody will step up and correct me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting up own domain and mailserver
This has to be the most compilcated subject to me. I just purchased a new domain from godaddy. I have a few questions I am not totally clear about yet. 1. I have adelphia cable internet. I would like to get a dyndns or no-ip.com account to have a static IP for my new godaddy domain. Simple enough. However, I would like to also do my own DNS to learn more about it. Will I be able to do this if I set my nameserver on godaddy to my box's dyndns address? And from there can I set up A records, MX Records, etc and all that good stuff? 2. What about reverse DNS? Could I possibly do that on my box? 3. I would also like to run my own mailserver for that domain (again to learn). Would I be able to do this and send receive email from/to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know most ISPs block port 25 and no-ip.com has a pay service called mail reflector that can get around this. Is this necessary? Why couldn't I just set up sendmail to use a port other than 25 like 8080? I don't know the situation in your country. But here in germany you can rent a lowend dedicated server for about 40 $/month. With static IP and mostly with one or more domain-names. With such a server you can do all what you want without the problems coming from the dynamic IP. Perhaps that'll be an alternative for you. -volker ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Setting up own domain and mailserver
This has to be the most compilcated subject to me. I just purchased a new domain from godaddy. I have a few questions I am not totally clear about yet. 1. I have adelphia cable internet. I would like to get a dyndns or no-ip.com account to have a static IP for my new godaddy domain. Simple enough. However, I would like to also do my own DNS to learn more about it. Will I be able to do this if I set my nameserver on godaddy to my box's dyndns address? And from there can I set up A records, MX Records, etc and all that good stuff? 2. What about reverse DNS? Could I possibly do that on my box? 3. I would also like to run my own mailserver for that domain (again to learn). Would I be able to do this and send receive email from/to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know most ISPs block port 25 and no-ip.com has a pay service called mail reflector that can get around this. Is this necessary? Why couldn't I just set up sendmail to use a port other than 25 like 8080? Thanks. Again, this stuff just confuses the heck out of me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting up own domain and mailserver
On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 07:52:08PM -0500, RL wrote: 1. I have adelphia cable internet. I would like to get a dyndns or no-ip.com account to have a static IP for my new godaddy domain. I assume both of those services are dynamic DNS providers, and I'll assume your cable provider gives you a dynamic IP address. Dynamic DNS providers don't provide you with a static IP, but rather nameservice for your domain. The provider will nominate some subset of their nameservers for you to register (with the registrar that sold you the domain name) as providing DNS for your new domain. The idea is that whenever your IP address changes, you contact the dynamic DNS provider (in some provider-specific way---e.g., a web form, a local script) to update your A record. Simple enough. However, I would like to also do my own DNS to learn more about it. Will I be able to do this if I set my nameserver on godaddy to my box's dyndns address? Almost certainly not, for two reasons. You need a static IP address to lodge with your registrar. (I guess it would be _possible_ to manually update the address with your registrar every time it changes, but quite impractical.) Further, you need to provide at least two nameservers for your domain. Again, it is _possible_ that you could personally provide one, and use a DNS provider as a secondary. 2. What about reverse DNS? Could I possibly do that on my box? Not unless you solve all of the problems above, and then discuss the issue with your ISP---since they own the IP address, they run the corresponding part of the in-addr.arpa zone, and the specific PTR record you will require. 3. I would also like to run my own mailserver for that domain (again to learn). Would I be able to do this and send receive email from/to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This you'll be able to do. You need to add an MX record to your zone file at the dynamic DNS provider. You would want mail sent to the host named in the A record. I know most ISPs block port 25 and no-ip.com has a pay service called mail reflector that can get around this. Is this necessary? If _your_ ISP blocks port 25, then you'll have to do _something_ to get around that, but I don't know if that particular service is the right solution. Why couldn't I just set up sendmail to use a port other than 25 like 8080? There's certainly nothing _intrinsically_ special about port 25. However, it's the port that everyone's agreed to send mail to. If your sendmail was listening on port 8080, how would my sendmail know? -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ pgpR2UnYYJN77.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Setting up own domain and mailserver
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 13:24:36 +1030, Paul A. Hoadley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 07:52:08PM -0500, RL wrote: 1. I have adelphia cable internet. I would like to get a dyndns or no-ip.com account to have a static IP for my new godaddy domain. I assume both of those services are dynamic DNS providers, and I'll assume your cable provider gives you a dynamic IP address. Dynamic DNS providers don't provide you with a static IP, but rather nameservice for your domain. The provider will nominate some subset of their nameservers for you to register (with the registrar that sold you the domain name) as providing DNS for your new domain. The idea is that whenever your IP address changes, you contact the dynamic DNS provider (in some provider-specific way---e.g., a web form, a local script) to update your A record. Simple enough. However, I would like to also do my own DNS to learn more about it. Will I be able to do this if I set my nameserver on godaddy to my box's dyndns address? Almost certainly not, for two reasons. You need a static IP address to lodge with your registrar. (I guess it would be _possible_ to manually update the address with your registrar every time it changes, but quite impractical.) Further, you need to provide at least two nameservers for your domain. Again, it is _possible_ that you could personally provide one, and use a DNS provider as a secondary. 2. What about reverse DNS? Could I possibly do that on my box? Not unless you solve all of the problems above, and then discuss the issue with your ISP---since they own the IP address, they run the corresponding part of the in-addr.arpa zone, and the specific PTR record you will require. 3. I would also like to run my own mailserver for that domain (again to learn). Would I be able to do this and send receive email from/to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This you'll be able to do. You need to add an MX record to your zone file at the dynamic DNS provider. You would want mail sent to the host named in the A record. I know most ISPs block port 25 and no-ip.com has a pay service called mail reflector that can get around this. Is this necessary? If _your_ ISP blocks port 25, then you'll have to do _something_ to get around that, but I don't know if that particular service is the right solution. Why couldn't I just set up sendmail to use a port other than 25 like 8080? There's certainly nothing _intrinsically_ special about port 25. However, it's the port that everyone's agreed to send mail to. If your sendmail was listening on port 8080, how would my sendmail know? -- Paul. w http://logicsquad.net/ h http://paul.hoadley.name/ Yeah and crappy Adelphia doesn't offer static IPs without charging way way too much. At least I should be able to set up my own mail. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting up own domain and mailserver
it was said: 1. I have adelphia cable internet. I would like to get a dyndns or no-ip.com account to have a static IP for my new godaddy domain. Having such accounts doesn't give you a static IP. A static IP is one that never changes. Only your ISP (Adelphia, in your case) can supply that. Simple enough. However, I would like to also do my own DNS to learn more about it. Will I be able to do this if I set my nameserver on godaddy to my box's dyndns address? And from there can I set up A records, MX Records, etc and all that good stuff? No. You don't have a static IP, so this won't work. That's what companies like dyndns and no-ip.com are for. Read how their services work for an more detailed explanation. 2. What about reverse DNS? Could I possibly do that on my box? No. The only way to do reverse DNS is to have the IP(s) delegated to you by your ISP. Unless you get a large block of IP addresses assigned to you, this is unlikely to happen. (I have 16 addresses and my ISP said, No! when I asked. I knew they would, but one hopes) 3. I would also like to run my own mailserver for that domain (again to learn). Would I be able to do this and send receive email from/to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know most ISPs block port 25 and no-ip.com has a pay service called mail reflector that can get around this. Is this necessary? Why couldn't I just set up sendmail to use a port other than 25 like 8080? No. You'll have to use the reflector service. Mailservers try to connect to port 25 because that's the port the RFC says to use. Setting your server to 8080 will make it useless. Thanks. Again, this stuff just confuses the heck out of me. You're wlecome. I suggest you read the book _DNS and BIND_ by Albitz and Liu, published by O'Reilly. It's generally considered the definitive work on this topic and will save you many hours of frustration. After reading it you'll know why you can run web and mail servers from a dynamic IP but not a name server. One thing to consider, clearly you don't have a commercial account. If I were you, I would check what Adelphia can do if they catch you running servers from a residental account. I know somebody that got caught by rr.com. They back billed him for a commercial account. It totaled more than US$6000.00. Of course, that's not as bad as what Buckeye Cable did to the users that uncapped their modems a couple years ago. http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2002Nov/gee20021122017460.htm Regards, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
