Re: X client without X server

2013-07-04 Thread Christopher J. Umina
You can remove leaf ports using pkg_cutleaves once everything is installed. You can even remove pkg_cutleaves with pkg_cutleaves if you don't want it anymore. On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Olivier Nicole olivier.nic...@cs.ait.ac.th wrote: Hi, Just my 2¢ worth on this. Sure, one always wants

Re: X client without X server

2013-07-04 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi, Is there a way to install an X client without automatically install an X server? I don't use emacs, but you can quickly check, prior to installing, what other ports will be required, e.g. do make -C /usr/ports/ search name=emacs-24 After doing my

Re: X client without X server

2013-07-03 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:55:48 +0700 (ICT) From: Olivier Nicole olivier.nic...@cs.ait.ac.th To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: X client without X server Hi, Is there a way to install an X client without automatically install an X

Re: X client without X server

2013-07-03 Thread Olivier Nicole
Anton, On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bris.ac.uk wrote: Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:55:48 +0700 (ICT) From: Olivier Nicole olivier.nic...@cs.ait.ac.th To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: X client without X server Hi

Re: X client without X server

2013-07-03 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 3 Jul 2013 11:47:16 +0100 (BST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote: $ pkg info -xd xterm xterm-293: xproto-7.0.24 xextproto-7.2.1 renderproto-0.11.1 printproto-1.0.5 libxcb-1.9.1 libXrender-0.9.8 libXpm-3.5.10 libXp-1.0.2,1

Re: X client without X server

2013-07-03 Thread Olivier Nicole
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Wed, 3 Jul 2013 11:47:16 +0100 (BST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote: $ pkg info -xd xterm xterm-293: xproto-7.0.24 xextproto-7.2.1 renderproto-0.11.1 printproto-1.0.5 libxcb-1.9.1

Re: X client without X server

2013-07-03 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 3 Jul 2013 18:07:11 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Wed, 3 Jul 2013 11:47:16 +0100 (BST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote: [...] Obviously xterm does not depend on xorg-server. But one of its dependencies might. That

Re: X client without X server

2013-07-03 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: X client without X server Hi, Is there a way to install an X client without automatically install an X server? On all my systems, I throw

Re: X client without X server

2013-07-03 Thread Bill Tillman
From: Anton Shterenlikht me...@bris.ac.uk To: me...@bristol.ac.uk; olivier2...@gmail.com Cc: o...@cs.ait.ac.th; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 9:17 AM Subject: Re: X client without X server     From olivier2...@gmail.com Wed

Re: X client without X server

2013-07-03 Thread Teske, Devin
On Jul 2, 2013, at 8:55 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: Hi, Is there a way to install an X client without automatically install an X server? On all my systems, I throw xterm and emacs, as the primary tools I use for management, but the display is always remote, I never, ever, run X on the

Re: X client without X server

2013-07-03 Thread Eugene
Eugene -Original Message- From: Bill Tillman Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 7:26 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X client without X server Just my 2¢ worth on this. Sure, one always wants to keep overhead low. But the days of limited RAM, small hard drives, etc

Re: X client without X server

2013-07-03 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 08:26:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman btillma...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: X client without X server xterm may not require it [xorg-server], but one of xterm's dependencies may. This is simply not true. xterm does not require xorg

Re: X client without X server

2013-07-03 Thread Arthur Chance
On 07/03/13 16:26, Bill Tillman wrote: [Vast snip.] Just my 2¢ worth on this. Sure, one always wants to keep overhead low. But the days of limited RAM, small hard drives, etc...are long since behind us. I remember in 1994 when and IT consultant came in and built a Novell server for us with

Re: X client without X server

2013-07-03 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi, Just my 2¢ worth on this. Sure, one always wants to keep overhead low. But the days of limited RAM, small hard drives, etc...are long since behind us. My concern is when portupgrade -a. The more ports on the system, the more likely the upgrade will fail. So I'd prefer to have as little

X client without X server

2013-07-02 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi, Is there a way to install an X client without automatically install an X server? On all my systems, I throw xterm and emacs, as the primary tools I use for management, but the display is always remote, I never, ever, run X on the machine, but still it install X server, fonts and a lot of