Re: Considering purchase off SSD! Follow up

2012-10-09 Thread Leslie Jensen



Got my new SSD. Have some additional questions.

My old disk is MBR partitioned. I want to reserve only a part of the 
disk for my Win7 installation and in order to do that I must initialise 
the disk (This is in Windows7).


A question comes up about using MBR or GPT (GUID Partition Table)

I know I can just go ahead and use MBR but I would like to ask if GPT 
would be beneficial.


Is it possible to use GUID when one has a dual boot system?

I presume that FreeBSD can handle GPT but I'm unsure!

Will someone enlighten me?

Thanks :-)

/Leslie
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Re: Considering purchase off SSD! Follow up

2012-10-09 Thread Leslie Jensen



Leslie Jensen skrev 2012-10-09 17:46:



Got my new SSD. Have some additional questions.

My old disk is MBR partitioned. I want to reserve only a part of the
disk for my Win7 installation and in order to do that I must initialise
the disk (This is in Windows7).

A question comes up about using MBR or GPT (GUID Partition Table)

I know I can just go ahead and use MBR but I would like to ask if GPT
would be beneficial.

Is it possible to use GUID when one has a dual boot system?

I presume that FreeBSD can handle GPT but I'm unsure!

Will someone enlighten me?

Thanks :-)

/Leslie
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Found the answer! Sorry for the noice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table

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Re: Considering purchase off SSD! Follow up

2012-10-09 Thread Warren Block

On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote:


Got my new SSD. Have some additional questions.

My old disk is MBR partitioned. I want to reserve only a part of the disk for 
my Win7 installation and in order to do that I must initialise the disk (This 
is in Windows7).


A question comes up about using MBR or GPT (GUID Partition Table)

I know I can just go ahead and use MBR but I would like to ask if GPT would 
be beneficial.


Is it possible to use GUID when one has a dual boot system?

I presume that FreeBSD can handle GPT but I'm unsure!


Yes, FreeBSD can handle it.  As usual, Windows is the problem.  From 
what I've read, only Windows 7 64-bit supports GPT, and then only with 
UEFI.  So it's very likely that MBR is the only practical choice.


Another trick is that Windows generally only has drivers for what was 
present when it was installed.  So switching the BIOS to AHCI for better 
performance can result in Windows not booting.  It is possible to locate 
the Windows drivers and install them.


Otherwise, FreeBSD will work fine without AHCI, disk IO will be just a 
bit slower.

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Re: Considering purchase off SSD! Follow up

2012-10-09 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:23:36 -0600 (MDT)
Warren Block articulated:

 On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Leslie Jensen wrote:
 
  Got my new SSD. Have some additional questions.
 
  My old disk is MBR partitioned. I want to reserve only a part of
  the disk for my Win7 installation and in order to do that I must
  initialise the disk (This is in Windows7).
 
  A question comes up about using MBR or GPT (GUID Partition Table)
 
  I know I can just go ahead and use MBR but I would like to ask if
  GPT would be beneficial.
 
  Is it possible to use GUID when one has a dual boot system?
 
  I presume that FreeBSD can handle GPT but I'm unsure!
 
 Yes, FreeBSD can handle it.  As usual, Windows is the problem.  From 
 what I've read, only Windows 7 64-bit supports GPT, and then only
 with UEFI.  So it's very likely that MBR is the only practical choice.
 
 Another trick is that Windows generally only has drivers for what was 
 present when it was installed.  So switching the BIOS to AHCI for
 better performance can result in Windows not booting.  It is possible
 to locate the Windows drivers and install them.
 
 Otherwise, FreeBSD will work fine without AHCI, disk IO will be just
 a bit slower.

A somewhat more concise discussion of Windows 7 and GPT can be found
here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/gg463525.aspx

Information on ACHI is available at:

http://www.everything-microsoft.com/2010/05/25/how-to-enable-ahci-in-windows-7/
http://www.ithinkdiff.com/how-to-enable-ahci-in-windows-7-rc-after-installation/

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Follow up....Re: Updating for the FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-12:01.openssl

2012-05-03 Thread Leslie Jensen



2012-05-03 19:04, Leslie Jensen skrev:


The following message appears when I do

freebsd-update install


The following files will be added as part of updating to 8.2-RELEASE-p7:
/usr/src/lib/libc/gen/libc_dlopen.c

The following files will be updated as part of updating to 8.2-RELEASE-p7:
/boot/kernel/kernel
/lib/libcrypto.so.6
/usr/bin/openssl
/usr/include/openssl/ssl.h
/usr/include/openssl/ssl3.h
/usr/lib/libcrypto.a
/usr/lib/libssl.a
/usr/lib/libssl.so.6
/usr/lib32/libcrypto.a
/usr/lib32/libcrypto.so.6
/usr/lib32/libcrypto_p.a
/usr/lib32/libssl.a
/usr/lib32/libssl.so.6
/usr/lib32/libssl_p.a
/usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh
/var/db/mergemaster.mtree

WARNING: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p6 is approaching its End-of-Life date.
It is strongly recommended that you upgrade to a newer
release within the next 2 months.

root@bljbsd01~:freebsd-update install
Installing updates...install: ///usr/src/lib/libc/gen/libc_dlopen.c: No
such file or directory
done.



Should I worry about the libc_dlopen.c, or is it ok?


Thanks

/Leslie


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After a reboot my system now has the following label

FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3 #0

How come it downgrades the label from p6 to p3 when upgrading to p7.

I'm aware that I can rebuild the kernel but I just wanted to know.

/Leslie

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Re: Follow up....Re: Updating for the FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-12:01.openssl

2012-05-03 Thread andrew clarke
On Thu 2012-05-03 19:17:05 UTC+0200, Leslie Jensen (les...@eskk.nu) wrote:

 After a reboot my system now has the following label
 
 FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3 #0
 
 How come it downgrades the label from p6 to p3 when upgrading to p7.

This is a FAQ.  There's a thread about it here:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-June/217031.html

Short answer: The patch level (-p3) displayed by uname -r after a
reboot will not change if freebsd-update has not touched the kernel.

As far as I know there haven't been any patches to the 8.2-REL kernel
since -p3.

/usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh is always updated by freebsd-update when
there is an update. (Although now that I think about it that might not
be true if you don't have the kernel sources installed?)

Not exactly intuitive.

Several Linux distros have a file named /etc/issue that shows the
distro name and version. Perhaps this or something similar could be
provided in future FreeBSD releases and updated by freebsd-update.

$ cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu 12.04 LTS \n \l

Regards
Andrew
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Re: Follow up....Re: Updating for the FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-12:01.openssl

2012-05-03 Thread Leslie Jensen



2012-05-03 20:35, andrew clarke skrev:

On Thu 2012-05-03 19:17:05 UTC+0200, Leslie Jensen (les...@eskk.nu) wrote:


After a reboot my system now has the following label

FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3 #0

How come it downgrades the label from p6 to p3 when upgrading to p7.


This is a FAQ.  There's a thread about it here:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-June/217031.html

Short answer: The patch level (-p3) displayed by uname -r after a
reboot will not change if freebsd-update has not touched the kernel.

As far as I know there haven't been any patches to the 8.2-REL kernel
since -p3.

/usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh is always updated by freebsd-update when
there is an update. (Although now that I think about it that might not
be true if you don't have the kernel sources installed?)

Not exactly intuitive.

Several Linux distros have a file named /etc/issue that shows the
distro name and version. Perhaps this or something similar could be
provided in future FreeBSD releases and updated by freebsd-update.

$ cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu 12.04 LTS \n \l

Regards
Andrew
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Thank you :-)

I have read similar answers and was partly aware of this.

But I was just curious to why.

I'll accept it and let a kernel rebuild be a part of my updates.

/Leslie


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Re: Follow up....Re: Updating for the FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-12:01.openssl

2012-05-03 Thread andrew clarke
On Thu 2012-05-03 20:48:17 UTC+0200, Leslie Jensen (les...@eskk.nu) wrote:

  Short answer: The patch level (-p3) displayed by uname -r after a
  reboot will not change if freebsd-update has not touched the kernel.

...

 I have read similar answers and was partly aware of this.
 
 But I was just curious to why.
 
 I'll accept it and let a kernel rebuild be a part of my updates.

If you're running the GENERIC kernel then you're only creating extra
work for yourself by rebuilding it for the sole purpose of having
uname -r show the correct patchlevel...

On the other hand if you're running a custom kernel then you only need
to rebuild the kernel when freebsd-update touches the kernel sources.
I don't recall the kernel was touched at all with the most recently
-p7 patch (openssl), for example, so there's absolutely no need to
rebuild it.

Apologies if this was already obvious.

Regards
Andrew
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Re: follow up...

2011-01-23 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:31:40 +1000
Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au articulated:

 Actually the consensus on this list _is_ to hit reply all- some only
 get digest or are not even subscribed, so they won't receive posts
 only posted to the list. Unfortunately that can mean you can continue 
 receiving replies not necessarily directly to your own posts.

consensus

Meaning:
: a general agreement about something : an idea or opinion that is
shared by all the people in a group [singular]

OK, when was the vote on this issue taken? I must have been out of
town that week.

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Duplicate mails (was Re: follow up...)

2011-01-23 Thread Warren Block

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011, Da Rock wrote:


On 01/23/11 07:43, Gary Kline wrote:
something else, probly not related to my web/dns troubles is that for days 
i seem to be getting spammed with multiple copies of some mail.  these dup

mail are ones that i _have_ sub'd to.  Just strange that this mail bug
happened at the same time that my bind troubles began.

Is it related to the threads you have been posting? You'll get multiples of 
those even if others are replying to replied posts.


% man procmailex | less +/duplicate

shows an effective way to filter out duplicates, if you use or can use 
mail/procmail.

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Re: follow up...

2011-01-23 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 06:18:37AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
 On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:31:40 +1000
 Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au articulated:
 
  Actually the consensus on this list _is_ to hit reply all- some only
  get digest or are not even subscribed, so they won't receive posts
  only posted to the list. Unfortunately that can mean you can continue 
  receiving replies not necessarily directly to your own posts.
 
 consensus
 
 Meaning:
 : a general agreement about something : an idea or opinion that is
 shared by all the people in a group [singular]
 
 OK, when was the vote on this issue taken? I must have been out of
 town that week.

You and me both.  I loathe getting multiples of emails.  I'm on the list,
so I already get a copy.  I have no problem doing a group reply by
request when someone's not on the list or only gets digest mails, though,
or getting duplicates as a side-effect of that -- again, *by request*.

Just spamming people with duplicates all the time for no good reason is a
mite annoying, though.  If I was aware of a vote, I would have voted
list reply.

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Re: follow up...

2011-01-23 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 23 January 2011:
 On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 06:18:37AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
  On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:31:40 +1000
  Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au articulated:
  
   Actually the consensus on this list _is_ to hit reply all- some only
   get digest or are not even subscribed, so they won't receive posts
   only posted to the list. Unfortunately that can mean you can continue 
   receiving replies not necessarily directly to your own posts.
  
  consensus
  
  Meaning:
  : a general agreement about something : an idea or opinion that is
  shared by all the people in a group [singular]
  
  OK, when was the vote on this issue taken? I must have been out of
  town that week.
 
 You and me both.  I loathe getting multiples of emails.  I'm on the list,
 so I already get a copy.  I have no problem doing a group reply by
 request when someone's not on the list or only gets digest mails, though,
 or getting duplicates as a side-effect of that -- again, *by request*.
 
 Just spamming people with duplicates all the time for no good reason is a
 mite annoying, though.  If I was aware of a vote, I would have voted
 list reply.
 
 -- 
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+1

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Re: follow up...

2011-01-23 Thread Da Rock

On 01/24/11 06:38, Chip Camden wrote:

Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 23 January 2011:
   

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 06:18:37AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
 

On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:31:40 +1000
Da Rockfreebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au  articulated:

   

Actually the consensus on this list _is_ to hit reply all- some only
get digest or are not even subscribed, so they won't receive posts
only posted to the list. Unfortunately that can mean you can continue
receiving replies not necessarily directly to your own posts.
 

consensus

Meaning:
: a general agreement about something : an idea or opinion that is
shared by all the people in a group [singular]

OK, when was the vote on this issue taken? I must have been out of
town that week.
   

You and me both.  I loathe getting multiples of emails.  I'm on the list,
so I already get a copy.  I have no problem doing a group reply by
request when someone's not on the list or only gets digest mails, though,
or getting duplicates as a side-effect of that -- again, *by request*.

Just spamming people with duplicates all the time for no good reason is a
mite annoying, though.  If I was aware of a vote, I would have voted
list reply.

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+1

   
Now I'm feeling very alone... :) Mind you I was on your side when it was 
decided- where are all the old listers? It was a few years ago now. I 
thought one of the original deciders would have chimed in by now, but it 
appears quite a few have now moved on- I'm not even getting as many 
posts these days. In times past it was hard to keep up with it all, a 
fulltime job to read them all- let alone reply!


Well arguments were:

reply-list
replies are posted back anyway
duplicates taking up space etc

reply-all
posters don't have to subscribe so they won't receive list posts
digesters won't keep up with replies
-questions@ is meant to be first port of call, user friendly, easy 
access for help


I'm happy to list post. I was talked around last time the vote was taken 
:) I suppose it depends more on the configuration of the list itself...

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Re: follow up...

2011-01-23 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 09:41:50AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 On 01/24/11 06:38, Chip Camden wrote:
 Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 23 January 2011:
 On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 06:18:37AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
 On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:31:40 +1000
 Da Rockfreebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au  articulated:
 
 was decided- where are all the old listers? It was a few years ago
 now. I thought one of the original deciders would have chimed in by
 now, but it appears quite a few have now moved on- I'm not even
 getting as many posts these days. In times past it was hard to keep
 up with it all, a fulltime job to read them all- let alone reply!
 
 Well arguments were:
 
 reply-list
 replies are posted back anyway
 duplicates taking up space etc
 
 reply-all
 posters don't have to subscribe so they won't receive list posts
 digesters won't keep up with replies
 -questions@ is meant to be first port of call, user friendly,
 easy access for help
 
 I'm happy to list post. I was talked around last time the vote was
 taken :) I suppose it depends more on the configuration of the list
 itself...


Hm.  Hopefully, more help when it is Monday [in my locale :)]
I've tried addring A records all over the place.  Back to 
square -1.  not loaded due to errors

I's  tuckered out...

-g


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follow up...

2011-01-22 Thread Gary Kline

something else, probly not related to my web/dns troubles is that for days i 
seem to be getting spammed with multiple copies of some mail.  these dup
mail are ones that i _have_ sub'd to.  Just strange that this mail bug
happened at the same time that my bind troubles began.   



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Re: follow up...

2011-01-22 Thread Da Rock

On 01/23/11 07:43, Gary Kline wrote:

something else, probly not related to my web/dns troubles is that for days i
seem to be getting spammed with multiple copies of some mail.  these dup
mail are ones that i _have_ sub'd to.  Just strange that this mail bug
happened at the same time that my bind troubles began.



   
Is it related to the threads you have been posting? You'll get multiples 
of those even if others are replying to replied posts.

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Re: follow up...

2011-01-22 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:25:05AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 On 01/23/11 07:43, Gary Kline wrote:
 
 something else, probly not related to my web/dns troubles is that for
 days i seem to be getting spammed with multiple copies of some mail.
 these dup mail are ones that i _have_ sub'd to.  Just strange that
 this mail bug happened at the same time that my bind troubles began.

 Is it related to the threads you have been posting? You'll get
 multiples of those even if others are replying to replied posts.

More specifically, I think it's because people tend to group-reply rather
than list-reply.

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Re: follow up...

2011-01-22 Thread Da Rock

On 01/23/11 11:37, Chad Perrin wrote:

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:25:05AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
   

On 01/23/11 07:43, Gary Kline wrote:
 

something else, probly not related to my web/dns troubles is that for
days i seem to be getting spammed with multiple copies of some mail.
these dup mail are ones that i _have_ sub'd to.  Just strange that
this mail bug happened at the same time that my bind troubles began.
   

Is it related to the threads you have been posting? You'll get
multiples of those even if others are replying to replied posts.
 

More specifically, I think it's because people tend to group-reply rather
than list-reply.

   
Actually the consensus on this list _is_ to hit reply all- some only get 
digest or are not even subscribed, so they won't receive posts only 
posted to the list. Unfortunately that can mean you can continue 
receiving replies not necessarily directly to your own posts.

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Follow Up Question On Upgrading And Ports

2010-02-08 Thread Tim Daneliuk
My ordinary practice with production FreeBSD machines is to:

- Regularly (weekly), update the sources, rebuild and reinstall world
  and kernels.

- Regularly (several times a week), do a 'portupgrade -arR'

- Somewhat frequently do a 'pkgdb -F'

IOW, I keep the OS, kernels, and ports fairly up-to-date.

However, per the thread on the proper updating method a few days ago,
I just ran 'make delete-old' and 'make delete-old-libs' for the
first time ever.  After a reboot the system started grumbling about
not being able to find libssl.so.4.   I reinstalled the compat5,6,7 ports
and all is well again.  Running 'make delete-old-libs' seems to no longer
want to get rid of libssl.so.4. 

This leads to my questions:

1) With all the regular portupgrades I do, why is libssl.so.4 even
   being used any more?  Isn't this a relic from the FBSD 4.x branch?

2) Why did the initial 'make delete-old-libs' clobber this file,
   but after the compat reinstalls, the same command no longer cares?

3) If I do an in-place upgrade to 8.x (I'll probably wait until 8.1)
   and immediately follow it with a 'portupgrade -arR', will I be
   guaranteed that every port will be migrated to the very latest
   8.x libs?

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Re: Follow Up Question On Upgrading And Ports

2010-02-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 08/02/2010 17:38, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
 My ordinary practice with production FreeBSD machines is to:
 
 - Regularly (weekly), update the sources, rebuild and reinstall world
   and kernels.

This implies you're running one of the -STABLE branches, rather than
-RELEASE: updates to -RELEASE happen much less frequently than weekly...

 - Regularly (several times a week), do a 'portupgrade -arR'
 
 - Somewhat frequently do a 'pkgdb -F'
 
 IOW, I keep the OS, kernels, and ports fairly up-to-date.

Yep.  It's good to do that, although your methodology would be pretty
hard to cope with on any more than a few machines.

 However, per the thread on the proper updating method a few days ago,
 I just ran 'make delete-old' and 'make delete-old-libs' for the
 first time ever.  After a reboot the system started grumbling about
 not being able to find libssl.so.4.   I reinstalled the compat5,6,7 ports
 and all is well again.  Running 'make delete-old-libs' seems to no longer
 want to get rid of libssl.so.4. 

make delete-old-libs will blow away /usr/lib/libssl.so.X, but the compat
ports will provide /usr/local/lib/compat/libssl.so.X

 This leads to my questions:
 
 1) With all the regular portupgrades I do, why is libssl.so.4 even
being used any more?  Isn't this a relic from the FBSD 4.x branch?

No -- libssl.so.4 would be from RELENG_6.  RELENG_8 provides
libssl.so.6, and the ports version of OpenSSL (and presumably 9-CURRENT
too) has libssl.so.7

It's libc.so where the ABI version number is the same as the OS major
version number.  Other shlibs in base can have completely different ABI
version numbers.

 2) Why did the initial 'make delete-old-libs' clobber this file,
but after the compat reinstalls, the same command no longer cares?

Compat libs are in a different location under /usr/local.

 3) If I do an in-place upgrade to 8.x (I'll probably wait until 8.1)
and immediately follow it with a 'portupgrade -arR', will I be
guaranteed that every port will be migrated to the very latest
8.x libs?

Every port that is capable of being built from source, yes: some binary
blobs may still need compat versions of shlibs.  diablo-jdk comes to
mind as a good example (needs compat7x).  nvidia-driver-173 needs
compat5x on my machine.  However, such binary blobs are the exception
rather than the rule.

Rebuilding all your ports is difficult and time-consuming, but it pays
off in easier future maintenance, improved performance and better stability.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Follow Up Question On Upgrading And Ports

2010-02-08 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com writes:

 3) If I do an in-place upgrade to 8.x (I'll probably wait until 8.1)
and immediately follow it with a 'portupgrade -arR', will I be
guaranteed that every port will be migrated to the very latest
8.x libs?

You want 'portupgrade -af' instead.  [You can add the 'rR' if you like,
but they're redundant with '-a'.]

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Re: Follow Up Question On Upgrading And Ports

2010-02-08 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 2/8/2010 12:30 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On 08/02/2010 17:38, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
 My ordinary practice with production FreeBSD machines is to:

 - Regularly (weekly), update the sources, rebuild and reinstall world
   and kernels.
 
 This implies you're running one of the -STABLE branches, rather than
 -RELEASE: updates to -RELEASE happen much less frequently than weekly...
 
 - Regularly (several times a week), do a 'portupgrade -arR'

 - Somewhat frequently do a 'pkgdb -F'

 IOW, I keep the OS, kernels, and ports fairly up-to-date.
 
 Yep.  It's good to do that, although your methodology would be pretty
 hard to cope with on any more than a few machines.


Yup, 'tis -stable.  And, no, I wouldn't do a farm of machines
this way.  For that, I wrote/use this:

   http://www.tundraware.com/Software/tbku/


Matthew  Lowell - thanks for taking the time ...

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follow up

2009-10-06 Thread Roy Stuivenberg
ps

This is the output building gnome2 :
gnomelogalyzer said something like no problem found.


checking for ALACARTE... yes
checking for pygobject 2.15.1 installed for python
required_python_abi... not found
configure: error: required pygobject version not found
===  Script configure failed unexpectedly.
Please run the gnomelogalyzer, available from
http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/gnomelogalyzer.sh;, which will diagnose
the
problem and suggest a solution. If - and only if - the gnomelogalyzer
cannot
solve the problem, report the build failure to the FreeBSD GNOME team at
gn...@freebsd.org, and attach (a)
/usr/ports/deskutils/alacarte/work/alacarte-0.12.1/config.log, (b) the
output of the failed make command, and (c) the gnomelogalyzer output.
Also,
it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed
on
your system (i.e. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). Put your attachment up on any
website,
copy-and-paste into http://freebsd-gnome.pastebin.com, or use send-pr(1)
with
the attachment. Try to avoid sending any attachments to the mailing list
(gn...@freebsd.org), because attachments sent to FreeBSD mailing lists
are
usually discarded by the mailing list software.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/deskutils/alacarte.
*** Error code 1


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ATH follow up

2007-08-27 Thread Dan Sikorsky

I did a little research, and found the actual chip is an AR2414,
I also found this from an email msg board. 
http://marc.info/?l=freebsd-mobilem=116855424703573w=2
Basically someone was asking is the ar2414/ar5414 are supported, and the 
guy says
HEAD supports both, but not stable.. So how can I get this working if 
that is still an issue?

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FOLLOW up - dell x300 / broad com / ndis

2007-05-23 Thread Dan Sikorsky

Well, I tried with both sets of inf/sys files I could find for this card

When i kldload the first set, my machine freezes than reboots
when i kldload the second set it returns to the prompt, but nothing is 
in dmesg or anything


so i tried my old netgear ma521 card

this loads
and shows up in dmesg

but not ifconfig

do i use wicontrol?
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one more follow up

2007-05-23 Thread Dan Sikorsky

Sorry guys


the netgear shows up in dmesg

but it says the following

cbb alloc res fail
cardbus1: Can't get memory for IO ports
ndis0: NETGEAR MA521 802.11b Wireless PC Card port 0-0xff mem 
0xe0215000-0xe02151ff at device 0.0 on cardbus1

cbb alloc res fail
ndis0: couldn't map iospace
device_attach: ndis0 attach returned 6

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Dell x300 FOLLOW UP SOLVED

2007-05-03 Thread Dan Sikorsky
Turns out it was the old layer 1 network cable im ashamed of my 
self, hehe



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follow up on x300 network card is BCM5705M

2007-05-02 Thread Dan Sikorsky

Any further clues how to get this working in freebsd?

tried a pcbsd 1.301 install and it still didnt work.

saw somewhere that a guy had custom .h files for the card, because it 
times out before firmware loaded.

http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2003-07/0924.html

but i also read somewhere that a guy got a similar dell laptop with 
*BCM5705M to work out of the box




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GDM, Xscreensaver, DBus follow up...

2005-12-31 Thread Jeff Molofee
Well, it turns out my video related problems are tied to Webmin. If I 
remove or disable webmin I no longer have colored bars of random data at 
the top of my screen. I'm not sure if this problem directly relates to 
one of the above 3 programs, but I can tell you without a doubt that if 
I enable webmin, the problem appears. Was anything changed in the above 
programs that may cause this to happen?


Also, can anyone tell me where I can read about the new changes to the 
sound system in FreeBSD 6 stable?


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Follow up on sending local mail only

2004-06-01 Thread Jonathon McKitrick

I haven't gotten any cron mail yet, but I'm able to send mail as root.
However, otherwise, as another user, mutt complains:

collect: Cannot write ./dfi520m0hj053054 (bfcommit, uid=1001, gid=25):
+Permission denied
queueup: cannot create queue file ./qfi520m0hj053054, euid=1001: Permission
+denied

It looks like I messed up my permissions somehow.

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Follow-up: Tape conversion

2003-09-26 Thread Frank Jahnke
I'm following up with my request yesterday for recommendations for
converting data from an old 9 track tape to a (more usable) CD.

First, I'm grateful for all of the relies.  Thank you!

For the particulars, most have already been posted.  I do not have a 9
track tape drive, nor do I wish to get one.  I already have enough
ancient computer stuff, and this tape (which has only about 5 MB or so
of data) is the only one I have to convert.

To Michael Squires: thanks for the tip on service bureaus in the
Indianapolis area.  If you can personally recommend one or two, I'd
appreciate it.  I'm in northern California, between Lake Tahoe and
Sacramento, but I'd be happy to ship the tape to someone who can work
with it (see also below).

To Dan Nelson, who provided a list of potential vendors from a google
search: if you can recommend one, I would be most interested in hearing
about your experience, or that of one of your colleagues.  Indeed, I
came up with much the same list from my own google search.

I did receive one personal reply from a gentleman who has collected
almost a museum's of interesting computer hardware from an IBM 360 to a
VAX with VMS and lots of other goodies, including of course a 9 track
tape and a FreeBSD box.  He kindly offered to do the conversion for me. 
So I have the tape boxed up, and I will send it to him on Monday.

Still, my experience with tapes (admittedly more in the audio area than
in computers) is that head alignment can be quite important, and old
machines can sometimes be cranky.  The quality of the tape is also
unknown.  So I'll see how this works out.  I may yet need to go to a
professional service, though I have every hope that this will succeed.

Finally, I received a gentle admonishment to follow up to this list.  My
experience with mailing lists (mostly on Usenet over the last 15 years)
has been that my public inquiries have given rise to a mixture of public
and personal responses, as it was with this one.  It has been my
practise to collect the responses, and follow up publicly with those
that also post to the list.  Since I receive this list as a digest, that
takes a bit of time. 

It seems that this list works a bit differently, and if it is expected
that each reply be answered publicly to the list, I'd certainly be happy
to do so in the future.

Frank Jahnke

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Re: Follow-up: Tape conversion

2003-09-26 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday, 26 September 2003 at 17:58:45 -0700, Frank Jahnke wrote:

 Finally, I received a gentle admonishment to follow up to this list.  My
 experience with mailing lists (mostly on Usenet over the last 15 years)
 has been that my public inquiries have given rise to a mixture of public
 and personal responses, as it was with this one.  It has been my
 practise to collect the responses, and follow up publicly with those
 that also post to the list.  Since I receive this list as a digest, that
 takes a bit of time.

 It seems that this list works a bit differently, and if it is expected
 that each reply be answered publicly to the list, I'd certainly be happy
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BusLink USB Drive Support? (follow-up)

2003-07-10 Thread Forrest Aldrich
Someone had asked me to post the output of usbdevs:

addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel
 addr 2: USB-ATAPI4 Bridge Controller, BUSlink Inc.
So the system sees the USB hard drive.  But it's not clear whether I can 
actually use this as a filesystem or not.

Thanks.

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Re: how to aggregate rules using ipfw2 ? Follow-up, Why Aggregate?

2003-03-30 Thread Joe Sotham

Markie said:

snip
 ipfw add allow ip from any to { 192.168.0.0/16 or 10.0.0.0/8 }

Why aggregate?  Is it more efficient?

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Re: how to aggregate rules using ipfw2 ? Follow-up, Why Aggregate?

2003-03-30 Thread Markie
More efficient in the way of typing (less of it) :) and I find it easier to
read. That's just my personal opinion though.
Can't say whether there's any speed improvement though, because I just don't
know.

Markie

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 Why aggregate?  Is it more efficient?

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Installation (follow-up: see today's previous post)

2003-02-20 Thread Robinson, Scott
Regarding my previous message:

Please excuse me!  I just located your previous response from Nathan Kinkade
on Feb 3.  The jumper cables are set appropriately with the CDROM set as
slave at the end of the cable.  The hard drive is set as master and is
located between the CDROM and where it connects to the PC.  Can you tell me
what you mean by the cable direction?  I haven't yet run the dmesg command
as Nathan suggested.  I will do so tonight.


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Re: Follow-up: Yet Another make release fails on ghostscript-gnu

2002-11-06 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Michael Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Having complete control over the build of my network OS is simply
 revolutionary... but I was hoping this revolution would not be so
 bloody.

You can get *that* with one of the supported update options.  make
release was never intended for anybody but release engineers.

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Follow-up: Yet Another make release fails on ghostscript-gnu

2002-11-05 Thread Michael Dexter

Greetings again,

Regarding the make release mentioned earlier...

After peppering my /usr/ports/distfiles/ tree with very redundant 
distfiles, i.e. the same files in /usr/ports and 
/usr/ports/ghostscript and /usr/ports/ghostscript-gnu, things finally 
worked. (Ending on a vn present failure but I know where to look on 
that one)

Given the time it takes to test each and every variable, I fear I 
will never be confident that I have an answer, though it was very 
educational...

Early on, I tried stepping through make release.1 and all but this 
appeared to ignore the flags I sent it. All of the output was sent to 
the /R directory, rather than my choice of /usr/testrelease/

Can that be changed? Is there indeed a way to step-trough a release build?

Having complete control over the build of my network OS is simply 
revolutionary... but I was hoping this revolution would not be so 
bloody.

Conclusions:

As suggested elsewhere, it would be nice to have an official source 
of buildable release files like the /usr/src on the CD, that would 
spare one the guesswork of trusting the ports fetch to build the 
build files prior to making the release.

Might a pre-make script based upon the real make script perform all 
of the downloads and checksum verifications? This could save hours in 
wasted build time and guesswork, a bit like running cvsup prior to 
building world, knowing exactly what source will be used.

I will look into this but again, my experience with make is only a 
few hours old.

Thanks again,

Michael.


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follow-up on fatal trap 12 issue

2002-10-07 Thread abe


I was only able to reproduce this error once where it produced a core.
Here is the log of the gdb session, and the trace from the debugger
immediately after the panic.

-Abe


GNU gdb 4.18
Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type show copying to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type show warranty for details.
This GDB was configured as i386-unknown-freebsd.
(kgdb) symbol-file kernel.debug
Reading symbols from kernel.debug...done.
(kgdb) exec-file /var/crash/kernel.0
(kgdb) core-file /var/crash/vmcore.0
IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x004c1000
initial pcb at physical address 0x004030c0
panicstr: from debugger
panic messages:
---
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address   = 0x94
fault code  = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc125a766
stack pointer   = 0x10:0xcc895c98
frame pointer   = 0x10:0xcc895ca8
code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process = 228 (ping)
interrupt mask  = 
panic: from debugger
panic: from debugger
Uptime: 1m50s

dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 3670176
dump ata0: resetting devices .. done
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234 233 232 231 230 229 228 227 226 225 224 223 222 221 220 219 218 217 216 215 214 
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---
#0  dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:474
474 if (dumping++) {
(kgdb) backtrace
#0  dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:474
#1  0xc01c5dfb in boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:313
#2  0xc01c61f5 in panic (fmt=0xc0361da4 from debugger)
at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:582
#3  0xc01404cd in db_panic (addr=-1054496922, have_addr=0, count=-1, 
modif=0xcc895b04 ) at ../../ddb/db_command.c:435
#4  0xc014046d in db_command (last_cmdp=0xc03be2c4, cmd_table=0xc03be104, 
aux_cmd_tablep=0xc03fd998) at ../../ddb/db_command.c:333
#5  0xc0140532 in db_command_loop () at ../../ddb/db_command.c:457
#6  0xc014264f in db_trap (type=12, code=0) at ../../ddb/db_trap.c:71
#7  0xc033077a in kdb_trap (type=12, code=0, regs=0xcc895c58)
at ../../i386/i386/db_interface.c:158
#8  0xc0340928 in trap_fatal (frame=0xcc895c58, eva=148)
at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:951
#9  0xc0340601 in trap_pfault (frame=0xcc895c58, usermode=0, eva=148)
at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:849
#10 0xc034017b in trap (frame={tf_fs = 16, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, 
  tf_edi = -1054466816, tf_esi = -1054482984, tf_ebp = -863413080, 
  tf_isp = -863413116, tf_ebx = 37, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = -1053739008, 
  tf_eax = 1033830400, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1054496922, 
  tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66054, tf_esp = -1054466816, tf_ss = -1054466816})
at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:448
#11 0xc125a766 in ?? ()
#12 0xc125a98d in ?? ()
#13 0xc125b2c4 in ?? ()
#14 0xc021dacc in ip_output (m0=0xc0e63800, opt=0x0, ro=0xcbafdd7c, flags=0, 
imo=0x0) at ../../netinet/ip_output.c:579
#15 0xc02286b0 in udp_output (inp=0xcbafdd40, m=0xc0e63800, addr=0x0, 
control=0x0, p=0xcb69ea40) at ../../netinet/udp_usrreq.c:747
#16 0xc0228914 in udp_send (so=0xcbacb980, flags=0, m=0xc0e63800, addr=0x0, 
control=0x0, p=0xcb69ea40) at ../../netinet/udp_usrreq.c:907
#17 0xc01e43b3 in sosend (so=0xcbacb980, addr=0x0, uio=0xcc895ecc, 
top=0xc0e63800, control=0x0, flags=0, p=0xcb69ea40)
at ../../kern/uipc_socket.c:611
#18 0xc01e7c73 in sendit (p=0xcb69ea40, s=5, mp=0xcc895f0c, flags=0)
at ../../kern/uipc_syscalls.c:583
#19 0xc01e7d76 in sendto (p=0xcb69ea40, uap=0xcc895f80)
at ../../kern/uipc_syscalls.c:636
#20 0xc0340c09 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, 
  tf_edi = 0, tf_esi = -1077939200, tf_ebp = -1077942192, 
  tf_isp = -863412268, tf_ebx = 27, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = 16, tf_eax = 133, 
  tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134530288, tf_cs = 31, 
  tf_eflags = 659, tf_esp = -1077942236, tf_ss = 47})
at