Re: [FYI] QT4 licensing looks very bad for *BSD

2005-07-01 Thread Chuck Swiger
Josh Ockert wrote: I'm not so sure you guys have this right. No BSD-licensed code is allowed to use a GPL library and remain BSD-licensed. According to the GPL, Section 2: b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the

Re: [FYI] QT4 licensing looks very bad for *BSD

2005-07-01 Thread Danny Pansters
On Friday 1 July 2005 07:32, Josh Ockert wrote: On 6/30/05, Danny Pansters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for top posting... The crucial words are: under the terms of this License. The confusion is due to contradictions in the License. Which are theirs. And it's very disputed as in

RE: [FYI] QT4 licensing looks very bad for *BSD

2005-06-30 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Swiger Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:47 AM To: Danny Pansters Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [FYI] QT4 licensing looks very bad for *BSD Also note that the Open Source Definition

Re: [FYI] QT4 licensing looks very bad for *BSD

2005-06-30 Thread Chuck Swiger
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [ ... ] The copyright laws govern this sort of thing not the GPL, and the courts have consistently held that a Copyright holder can pretty much do what they want, and can put any kind of licensing terms they want on something. In short a Copyright holders right to

Re: [FYI] QT4 licensing looks very bad for *BSD

2005-06-30 Thread Danny Pansters
snipped I'd like to say that my mail to trolltech was before yours and I haven't had an answer yet save for an automated reply. Perhaps I'm not important enough :) I'm not sure if I want this to go on the list (and archive) but this is what I sent them, and yes, I was voicing concern but I

Re: [FYI] QT4 licensing looks very bad for *BSD

2005-06-30 Thread Josh Ockert
I'm not so sure you guys have this right. No BSD-licensed code is allowed to use a GPL library and remain BSD-licensed. According to the GPL, Section 2: b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part

Re: [FYI] QT4 licensing looks very bad for *BSD

2005-06-30 Thread Danny Pansters
Sorry for top posting... The crucial words are: under the terms of this License. The confusion is due to contradictions in the License. Which are theirs. And it's very disputed as in might be void. What GPL quotes can be used (remember it's a license not a law, BTW) for the case when I use

Re: [FYI] QT4 licensing looks very bad for *BSD

2005-06-30 Thread Josh Ockert
On 6/30/05, Danny Pansters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for top posting... The crucial words are: under the terms of this License. The confusion is due to contradictions in the License. Which are theirs. And it's very disputed as in might be void. What GPL quotes can be used (remember

Re: [FYI] QT4 licensing looks very bad for *BSD

2005-06-30 Thread Josh Ockert
PS - Not that I'm claiming that BSD is a total giveaway, but as long as the required notices are intact, there's nothing wrong with BSDL code being imported to GPL code. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

[FYI] QT4 licensing looks very bad for *BSD

2005-06-29 Thread Danny Pansters
Folks, I don't want to scare anyone but today QT4 was released and their web page (http://www.trolltech.com/download/opensource.html) specifically states several times that if using the free version one is required to release their own code under GPL. That's effectively a requirement to

Re: [FYI] QT4 licensing looks very bad for *BSD

2005-06-29 Thread RW
On Wednesday 29 June 2005 12:30, Danny Pansters wrote: Folks, I don't want to scare anyone but today QT4 was released and their web page (http://www.trolltech.com/download/opensource.html) specifically states several times that if using the free version one is required to release their own

Re: [FYI] QT4 licensing looks very bad for *BSD

2005-06-29 Thread Chuck Swiger
Danny Pansters wrote: I don't want to scare anyone but today QT4 was released and their web page (http://www.trolltech.com/download/opensource.html) specifically states several times that if using the free version one is required to release their own code under GPL. That's effectively a

Re: [FYI] QT4 licensing looks very bad for *BSD

2005-06-29 Thread Danny Pansters
Hey Chuck, thanks for answering. On Wednesday 29 June 2005 16:47, Chuck Swiger wrote: Danny Pansters wrote: I don't want to scare anyone but today QT4 was released and their web page (http://www.trolltech.com/download/opensource.html) specifically states several times that if using

Re: [FYI] QT4 licensing looks very bad for *BSD

2005-06-29 Thread Chuck Swiger
Danny Pansters wrote: Hey Chuck, thanks for answering. No problem. (I'm not completely convinced this thread belongs on freebsd-questions, but I don't know where else to move it to. :-) Anyway, I contacted someone at TrollTech with pretty much what I said in my last email, and got a