Re: [OT] advice on wikis and bulletin boards

2007-01-13 Thread Bill Moran
Andrew Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Strategic planning will be starting soon at my new place of employment,
 and I'd like to setup a place on our intranet to facilitate discussions
 and planning prior to meetings to reduce meeting times and make
 meetings more productive.  This would be a new activity for this
 organization, so we'll start with just our own office.  User permissions
 will be needed for security.
 
 I've used bulletin boards before (phpbb); but they don't seem to be
 well designed for group editing of documents.  I've noticed that wiki's
 have become very popular; but I'm not sure how well they facilitate
 discussions.
 
 Does anyone have any advice or suggestions?

Please wrap your lines around 72 chars or so.

Wikis are good for group-developed documentation and similar.  We used
one extensively when we used a committee to rewrite the local LUG's
bylaws and it was very helpful.

I don't think Wikis are good for group discussion, however.  For that I
would fall back on a mailing list.  Use something like Mailman that has
archiving capability.  For that same committee work, we also had a
dedicated mailing list -- the two went hand in hand, and I don't think
the wiki would have been nearly as useful without the mailing list.

-Bill
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[OT] advice on wikis and bulletin boards

2007-01-12 Thread Andrew Gould
Strategic planning will be starting soon at my new place of employment, and I'd 
like to setup a place on our intranet to facilitate discussions and planning 
prior to meetings to reduce meeting times and make meetings more productive.  
This would be a new activity for this organization, so we'll start with just 
our own office.  User permissions will be needed for security.

I've used bulletin boards before (phpbb); but they don't seem to be well 
designed for group editing of documents.  I've noticed that wiki's have become 
very popular; but I'm not sure how well they facilitate discussions.

Does anyone have any advice or suggestions?

Thanks,

Andrew L. Gould


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Re: [OT] advice on wikis and bulletin boards

2007-01-12 Thread bobmc
Andrew Gould wrote:
 Strategic planning will be starting soon at my new place of employment, and 
 I'd like to setup a place on our intranet to facilitate discussions and 
 planning prior to meetings to reduce meeting times and make meetings more 
 productive.  This would be a new activity for this organization, so we'll 
 start with just our own office.  User permissions will be needed for security.

 I've used bulletin boards before (phpbb); but they don't seem to be well 
 designed for group editing of documents.  I've noticed that wiki's have 
 become very popular; but I'm not sure how well they facilitate discussions.

 Does anyone have any advice or suggestions?

 Thanks,

 Andrew L. Gould
   
I installed Apache and http://www.oddmuse.org/cgi-bin/wiki on FreeBSD.
You have to install it in cgi-bin, create group www, and look at httpd.conf
to see where files should be.  I also used it to create a website
http://www.bobmc.net/cgi-bin/Goalie.pl/WikiVerse

There are tons of wikis available. The most famous is MediaWiki for
Wikipedia.  But oddmuse is only one Perl script that works anywhere.

MoinMoin has a nice balance between eyecandy and ease of use. You see it
on some open-source sites. I also like DokuWiki

Since it is so easy to create wiki pages, the challenge is to prevent a
spaghetti-ball forming. Read all about it starting at
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WelcomeVisitors where it all started
Also, a wiki is social software which some people are shy about using.
Setting one up is like boiling a frog,  you have to do it slowly.

For minutes of meetings you can setup a mailing list like this one but
in notification mode.

For documentation, several dedicated wikis can be setup. Think about
a page naming scheme that is consistent for your purpose.

Cheers,
-BobMc-


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Re: [OT] advice on wikis and bulletin boards

2007-01-12 Thread John Levine
for group editing of documents.  I've noticed that wiki's have become very
popular; but I'm not sure how well they facilitate discussions.

Does anyone have any advice or suggestions?

I've found them very useful.  If you already have PHP and mysql
installed, I encourage you to use Mediawiki.  I resisted installing it
because it does so much stuff that I assumed it would be a pain to set
up, but it turns out to be one of the easiest packages I have ever
installed, stick it in a directory visible to the web server, point
your browser at the startup page, answer a few questions, and poof!
you have your wiki.

Someone else noted that wikis can turn into spaghetti balls which is
true.  It definitely helps if there is someone whose job it is to
impose order on the wiki and reorganize it when it gets too messy.


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