Re: cshrc to bashrc??
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:15:45 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Anybody know if there is a utility that transforms the /root/.cshrc into a bash RC file?After decades, I'm giving up on the csh stuff. Need something simpler. As far as I know, there is no automatic converter for csh - sh config files. Basically, the C shell has these: - system-wide: /etc/csh.cshrc, /etc/csh.login, /etc/csh.lougout - per user: ~/.cshrc, ~/.login, ~/.logout I'm a csh user for most dialog use, because bash's interactive abilites force too much interaction (especially regarding completition) in the default configuration. But I'm more and more thinking to switch to bash permanently, as soon as I've beaten bash's misbehaviour out of its source code. :-) The system's sh uses /etc/profile and .profile in the same manner. Then there is bash, which I think uses the following files according to man bash, section FILES: /etc/profile The systemwide initialization file, executed for login shells ~/.bash_profile The personal initialization file, executed for login shells ~/.bashrc The individual per-interactive-shell startup file ~/.bash_logout The individual login shell cleanup file, executed when a login shell exits ~/.inputrc Individual readline initialization file You have to know about the different syntax definition for both file types, but it's relatively easy. setenv ENVNAME envstring- ENVNAME=envstring; export ENVNAME - export ENVNAME=envstring set VARNAME = 'varstring' - VARNAME=varstring alias aliname 'alistring' - alias aliname=alistring All the config files allow regular sh coding sequences (such as the use of conditionals or iterators). To get a standard prompt in bash, use this: export PS1=\...@\h:\w\$ It is the equivalent to csh's set promptchars = %# set prompt = %...@%m:%~%# Note that csh does automatically use % or # according to the first setting. I'm not sure how bash handles this. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cshrc to bashrc??
I've read about 30% of your email and just have to sack out. It is just past 04:00 and my eyes are starting to glue shut. And hey, once them shut, I'll bang into stuff before I can get to my bed!! More coming tomooor-- Hm. Since this *is* tomorrow, then in around some N hours. S'all, folks! -g On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 11:01:31AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:15:45 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Anybody know if there is a utility that transforms the /root/.cshrc into a bash RC file?After decades, I'm giving up on the csh stuff. Need something simpler. As far as I know, there is no automatic converter for csh - sh config files. Basically, the C shell has these: - system-wide: /etc/csh.cshrc, /etc/csh.login, /etc/csh.lougout - per user: ~/.cshrc, ~/.login, ~/.logout I'm a csh user for most dialog use, because bash's interactive abilites force too much interaction (especially regarding completition) in the default configuration. But I'm more and more thinking to switch to bash permanently, as soon as I've beaten bash's misbehaviour out of its source code. :-) The system's sh uses /etc/profile and .profile in the same manner. Then there is bash, which I think uses the following files according to man bash, section FILES: /etc/profile The systemwide initialization file, executed for login shells ~/.bash_profile The personal initialization file, executed for login shells ~/.bashrc The individual per-interactive-shell startup file ~/.bash_logout The individual login shell cleanup file, executed when a login shell exits ~/.inputrc Individual readline initialization file You have to know about the different syntax definition for both file types, but it's relatively easy. setenv ENVNAME envstring - ENVNAME=envstring; export ENVNAME - export ENVNAME=envstring set VARNAME = 'varstring' - VARNAME=varstring alias aliname 'alistring' - alias aliname=alistring All the config files allow regular sh coding sequences (such as the use of conditionals or iterators). To get a standard prompt in bash, use this: export PS1=\...@\h:\w\$ It is the equivalent to csh's set promptchars = %# set prompt = %...@%m:%~%# Note that csh does automatically use % or # according to the first setting. I'm not sure how bash handles this. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cshrc to bashrc??
Note that csh does automatically use % or # according to the first setting. I'm not sure how bash handles this. man bash and search for PROMPTING, everything you can pass PS1 is there # is \# the command number of this command I don't see how a '%' is handled tho, what does it do is csh? I (or someone else) may know the bash equivalent... C- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cshrc to bashrc??
On Sat, 1 Jan 2011 10:56:24 -0500, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: Note that csh does automatically use % or # according to the first setting. I'm not sure how bash handles this. man bash and search for PROMPTING, everything you can pass PS1 is there # is \# the command number of this command I don't see how a '%' is handled tho, what does it do is csh? I (or someone else) may know the bash equivalent... The csh and bash config do use differnt escape sequences for substitution, such as user name, host name, current directory and power (root / non-root). In bash it is \, in csh it is %. You are right, man bash does list all the sequences, as well as man csh. For the standard prompt u...@host:~/my/path% _ those are the corresponding codes: Meaning csh bash -- -- -- user%n \u host%m \h path\w %~ (includes substitution ~) prompt sign %# (# for root, % for non-root) \$ (# for root, $ for non-root) That's why I said csh's set prompt = %...@%m:%~%# equals bash's export PS1=\...@\h:\w\$ , because bash does have a different default prompt (which might not be desired). A literal % can be used for bash's PS1 setting if intended. But it's okay to see $ for bash, and % for csh. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cshrc to bashrc??
On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 11:01:31AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:15:45 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Anybody know if there is a utility that transforms the /root/.cshrc into a bash RC file?After decades, I'm giving up on the csh stuff. Need something simpler. As far as I know, there is no automatic converter for csh - sh config files. Basically, the C shell has these: - system-wide: /etc/csh.cshrc, /etc/csh.login, /etc/csh.lougout - per user: ~/.cshrc, ~/.login, ~/.logout I'm a csh user for most dialog use, because bash's interactive abilites force too much interaction (especially regarding completition) in the default configuration. But I'm more and more thinking to switch to bash permanently, as soon as I've beaten bash's misbehaviour out of its source code. :-) I didn't/don't know much about bash--other that it seems to be everywhere. Last night I spent several hours using my own hack that translater the csh aliases to bashrc-type aliases. Finally threw in the towel. The system's sh uses /etc/profile and .profile in the same manner. Then there is bash, which I think uses the following files according to man bash, section FILES: /etc/profile The systemwide initialization file, executed for login shells ~/.bash_profile The personal initialization file, executed for login shells ~/.bashrc The individual per-interactive-shell startup file ~/.bash_logout The individual login shell cleanup file, executed when a login shell exits ~/.inputrc Individual readline initialization file The last one, .inputrc, is a noop to my brain. And yes, I just had my second cup of coffee! IS there any cheatsheet URL that 'splains the readline init'z'n stuff? You have to know about the different syntax definition for both file types, but it's relatively easy. setenv ENVNAME envstring - ENVNAME=envstring; export ENVNAME - export ENVNAME=envstring set VARNAME = 'varstring' - VARNAME=varstring alias aliname 'alistring' - alias aliname=alistring Looks at lot like my zsh usage. All the config files allow regular sh coding sequences (such as the use of conditionals or iterators). To get a standard prompt in bash, use this: export PS1=\...@\h:\w\$ It is the equivalent to csh's set promptchars = %# set prompt = %...@%m:%~%# Note that csh does automatically use % or # according to the first setting. I'm not sure how bash handles this. I have always ripped off somebody's prompt and then modified it to what fits my needs. Last night I kept running into problems with the PATH and the aliases. Each re-edit I did I figured it would be just-another-minute before bash worked. Nope, nada, zip. Finally got smart and :quit. -gary -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
cshrc to bashrc??
Anybody know if there is a utility that transforms the /root/.cshrc into a bash RC file?After decades, I'm giving up on the csh stuff. Need something simpler. tia, guys, and hope 2011 is better for all of us! gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ethic ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
.cshrc usage
I want to change the console prompt for all users that get accounts created. I added it to /etc/csh.cshrc which says it a system-wide .cshrc file. But after adding a new user with pw command with -m and logging in as the user name the prompt is still the old way. Do I have to add it to /usr/share/skel/dot.cshrc to get the change to take effect? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: .cshrc usage
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:23:52 +0800, Aiza aiz...@comclark.com wrote: I want to change the console prompt for all users that get accounts created. I added it to /etc/csh.cshrc which says it a system-wide .cshrc file. But after adding a new user with pw command with -m and logging in as the user name the prompt is still the old way. Do I have to add it to /usr/share/skel/dot.cshrc to get the change to take effect? Check the users' ~/.cshrc to see if they override those settings. I also have some standard settings for all users in /etc/csh.cshrc, and users' ~/.cshrc are usually empty (unless they add their own settings or override mine). if ($?prompt) then set promptchars = %# set prompt = %...@%m:%~%# set autolist # ... more stuff here ... endif This is an example on how to properly implement the standard prompt (username, hostname, current directory with home substitution, and permission indicator). The /usr/share/skel directory contains files that are copied to a user's directory when an account is created. This means: See what's in those files. If they override your global settings, change them. If an account has already been created, check the user's files. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
adding output lines to my .cshrc breaks sftp and scp ...
I added a few lines to the bottom of my standard FreeBSD .cshrc file: echo w echo Just to show me what is going on each time I log in. The problem is, when I try to scp a file to the system, I get 'w' output echo'd to me, and no actual scp. sftp fails as well - I can no longer log in via sftp, and instead get this error: Received message too long 169882682 I don't understand why .cshrc output is breaking non-interactive SSH file transfer. Is there a way to customize my .cshrc output while still retaining scp/sftp functionality ? Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: adding output lines to my .cshrc breaks sftp and scp ...
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:41:54 -0700 (PDT), Goh Sanda x4500f...@yahoo.com wrote: I added a few lines to the bottom of my standard FreeBSD .cshrc file: echo w echo Just to show me what is going on each time I log in. Use ~/.login for command that should be executed after you log in. The corresponding system-wide file is /etc/csh.login. I don't understand why .cshrc output is breaking non-interactive SSH file transfer. Because .cshrc is read (and that's why executed) every time a shell is requested. Is there a way to customize my .cshrc output while still retaining scp/sftp functionality ? Simply use ~/.cshrc for settings, and ~/.login for real commands. A better explaination can be found in man csh, let me quote: Startup and shutdown A login shell begins by executing commands from the system files /etc/csh.cshrc and /etc/csh.login. It then executes commands from files in the user's home directory: first ~/.tcshrc (+) or, if ~/.tcshrc is not found, ~/.cshrc, then ~/.history (or the value of the histfile shell variable), then ~/.login, and finally ~/.cshdirs (or the value of the dirsfile shell variable) (+). The shell may read /etc/csh.login before instead of after /etc/csh.cshrc, and ~/.login before instead of after ~/.tcshrc or ~/.cshrc and ~/.history, if so compiled; see the version shell variable. (+) Non-login shells read only /etc/csh.cshrc and ~/.tcshrc or ~/.cshrc on startup. For examples of startup files, please consult http://tcshrc.source- forge.net. Commands like stty(1) and tset(1), which need be run only once per login, usually go in one's ~/.login file. Users who need to use the same set of files with both csh(1) and tcsh can have only a ~/.cshrc which checks for the existence of the tcsh shell variable (q.v.) before using tcsh-specific commands, or can have both a ~/.cshrc and a ~/.tcshrc which sources (see the builtin command) ~/.cshrc. The rest of this manual uses `~/.tcshrc' to mean `~/.tcshrc or, if ~/.tcshrc is not found, ~/.cshrc'. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Adding an alias to .cshrc
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 07:50:21PM -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote: Hi all, happy holidays! I want to add an alias to my .cshrc file: alias srm find . -name *~ | xargs rm Your problem is quoting the command. It has multiple parts with white space, so it all needs to be quoted. Something like: alias srm find . -name \*~\ | xargs rm jerry ...so that I have an easy way to remove the temp files left by svn. After adding the alias, logging out and then back in, I get an error stating: acct-dev: ISP-RADIUS % srm srm: Command not found. I thought that perhaps the file wasn't being read upon login, so I appended a new alias underneath: alias srm find . -name *~ | xargs rm alias sll ls -lA ...which works fine when called after re-login. I even went as far as to prefix the find/xargs command with full paths, to no avail. Is this a problem with the pipe in the alias directive? The command works on the CLI, as I literally copy/pasted it into the .cshrc file. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Adding an alias to .cshrc
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:07:35PM -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote: Glen Barber wrote: Hi Steve On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: Hi all, happy holidays! I want to add an alias to my .cshrc file: alias srm find . -name *~ | xargs rm Try enclosing it in quotes, such as: alias srm find . -name \*~\ | xargs rm This works. Instead of escaping, I just encapsulated within single-quotes: acct-dev: ISP-RADIUS % grep srm /home/steve/.cshrc alias srm '/usr/bin/find . -name *~ | /usr/bin/xargs rm' That is OK as long as you are not depending on shell expansion effects. jerry Olivier: I didn't test your theory, but thanks for the tip. I've just become accustomed over the years to use xargs when making bulk rm's ;) Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Adding an alias to .cshrc
Hi all, happy holidays! I want to add an alias to my .cshrc file: alias srm find . -name *~ | xargs rm ...so that I have an easy way to remove the temp files left by svn. After adding the alias, logging out and then back in, I get an error stating: acct-dev: ISP-RADIUS % srm srm: Command not found. I thought that perhaps the file wasn't being read upon login, so I appended a new alias underneath: alias srm find . -name *~ | xargs rm alias sll ls -lA ...which works fine when called after re-login. I even went as far as to prefix the find/xargs command with full paths, to no avail. Is this a problem with the pipe in the alias directive? The command works on the CLI, as I literally copy/pasted it into the .cshrc file. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Adding an alias to .cshrc
Hi, Is this a problem with the pipe in the alias directive? The command works on the CLI, as I literally copy/pasted it into the .cshrc file. I would think so. What about: alias srm /usr/bin/find . -name *~ -delete Best regards, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Adding an alias to .cshrc
Hi Steve On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: Hi all, happy holidays! I want to add an alias to my .cshrc file: alias srm find . -name *~ | xargs rm Try enclosing it in quotes, such as: alias srm find . -name \*~\ | xargs rm Regards, -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Adding an alias to .cshrc
Glen Barber wrote: Hi Steve On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: Hi all, happy holidays! I want to add an alias to my .cshrc file: alias srm find . -name *~ | xargs rm Try enclosing it in quotes, such as: alias srm find . -name \*~\ | xargs rm This works. Instead of escaping, I just encapsulated within single-quotes: acct-dev: ISP-RADIUS % grep srm /home/steve/.cshrc alias srm '/usr/bin/find . -name *~ | /usr/bin/xargs rm' Olivier: I didn't test your theory, but thanks for the tip. I've just become accustomed over the years to use xargs when making bulk rm's ;) Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Adding an alias to .cshrc
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 07:50:21PM -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote:
I want to add an alias to my .cshrc file:
alias srm find . -name *~ | xargs rm
No need for xargs:
alias srm find . -name '*~' -exec rm {} +
or
alias srm find . -name '*~' -delete
...so that I have an easy way to remove the temp files left by svn.
After adding the alias, logging out and then back in, I get an error
stating:
Use the builtin(1) 'source' command. No need to log out/log in.
acct-dev: ISP-RADIUS % srm
srm: Command not found.
I'm sure someone more knowledgable about csh (I rely on bash) can help
you debug what exactly happens and why, but quoting your alias command
in .cshrc is all that's required.
I thought that perhaps the file wasn't being read upon login, so I
appended a new alias underneath:
Easier to check your aliases by typing 'alias', no?
alias srm find . -name *~ | xargs rm
alias sll ls -lA
...which works fine when called after re-login.
I even went as far as to prefix the find/xargs command with full paths,
to no avail.
Is this a problem with the pipe in the alias directive? The command
works on the CLI, as I literally copy/pasted it into the .cshrc file.
Again, quoting what's being aliased will suffice. Why that's not
necessary during interactive use, I don't know, but I'd get into the
habit of quoting such things regardless.
--
George
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Re: .cshrc History missing
Al Plant wrote: Polytropon wrote: Allthough I'm not familiar with the particular problem you described, I observed that the history sometimes (!) does not survive a reboot. It may have to do with a situation where more than one shell is running. Idea: The last shell closed (even forced) saves its history, so the history of the other shells gets lost. I've set those globally in /etc/csh.cshrc: set history = 100 set savehist = 100 Sometimes, history survives, sometimes it doesn't. Very strange... Aloha Poly, I'm glad to have somebody confirm this. I thought it was funny that this was happening. I have earlier CURRENT 8 running on a couple of machines and they never acted this way. This is root that is doing this on my test box. set history = 100 set savehistory = 100 are in the .cshrc file. I'll look in /etc/csh.cshrc Thanks... Yeah. The history mechanism in tcsh doesn't cope very well with multiple ttys being closed down at once, as you tend to find when logging out of an X session. You get the history from just one of those shells. It's not a complete cure, but telling the shell to merge it's history with what's already there: set history = 500 set savehist = (1000 merge) This helps, but it is not completely reliable when several shells are shutdown in quick succession. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
.cshrc History missing
Aloha, I have been trying the new FreeBSD 8 Current, Head and Beta* on an AMD64 box with 2 CPU's. The OS loads and everything works under all versions including i386, but the key stroke history on csh does not survive over a reboot or shutdown. I have never seen this happen before and I have been using FreeBSD for a very long time.. since FreeBSD 2.* . Anyone have any ideas what I should check for either with hardware or in .cshrc or elsewhere? Thanks... ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: .cshrc History missing
Allthough I'm not familiar with the particular problem you described, I observed that the history sometimes (!) does not survive a reboot. It may have to do with a situation where more than one shell is running. Idea: The last shell closed (even forced) saves its history, so the history of the other shells gets lost. I've set those globally in /etc/csh.cshrc: set history = 100 set savehist = 100 Sometimes, history survives, sometimes it doesn't. Very strange... -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: .cshrc History missing
Polytropon wrote: Allthough I'm not familiar with the particular problem you described, I observed that the history sometimes (!) does not survive a reboot. It may have to do with a situation where more than one shell is running. Idea: The last shell closed (even forced) saves its history, so the history of the other shells gets lost. I've set those globally in /etc/csh.cshrc: set history = 100 set savehist = 100 Sometimes, history survives, sometimes it doesn't. Very strange... Aloha Poly, I'm glad to have somebody confirm this. I thought it was funny that this was happening. I have earlier CURRENT 8 running on a couple of machines and they never acted this way. This is root that is doing this on my test box. set history = 100 set savehistory = 100 are in the .cshrc file. I'll look in /etc/csh.cshrc Thanks... ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
why can't I use $1 in .cshrc ?
I am trying to use this alias in my root .cshrc file: grep $1 /some/file but .cshrc _refuses_ to expand $1 as a proper variable (in this case, the first argument to the alias...) I _think_ it's because $1 is being interpreted as a argument to csh _itself_ when it runs .cshrc ... but maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, how to make it work ? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why can't I use $1 in .cshrc ?
At 07:04 AM 6/26/2008, Juri Mianovich wrote: I am trying to use this alias in my root .cshrc file: grep $1 /some/file but .cshrc _refuses_ to expand $1 as a proper variable (in this case, the first argument to the alias...) I _think_ it's because $1 is being interpreted as a argument to csh _itself_ when it runs .cshrc ... but maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, how to make it work ? Thanks. I think you are trying to use an alias where it won't really work. A typical alias is: la for ls -a ll for ls -lA It looks like you want to pass an argument and a filename, or at least an argument to grep. Not quite sure if that would work or if it would be much use. The $ is a special character that is interpreted and expanded by the shell. You can use it by escaping it or putting it in quotes, but that depends on where it is used (in .cshrc, in a script, etc.) -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why can't I use $1 in .cshrc ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Juri Mianovich wrote: | I am trying to use this alias in my root .cshrc file: | | grep $1 /some/file | | but .cshrc _refuses_ to expand $1 as a proper variable (in this case, the first argument to the alias...) | | I _think_ it's because $1 is being interpreted as a argument to csh _itself_ when it runs .cshrc ... but maybe I'm wrong. | | Anyway, how to make it work ? Try with \!\!:1 Example: alias say echo 'I say \!\!:1' | say hello I say hello | | Thanks. You're welcome. - -- Pietro Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEAREKAAYFAkhjqFkACgkQwMJqmJVx944z4QCeKf5wirL9TOqAy0QhyUt7f0mE /2AAoJB1nkUYSfd4/QEdmJUEENaUsA12 =zK3x -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why can't I use $1 in .cshrc ?
At 2008-06-26T05:04:52-07:00, Juri Mianovich wrote: I am trying to use this alias in my root .cshrc file: grep $1 /some/file but .cshrc _refuses_ to expand $1 as a proper variable (in this case, the first argument to the alias...) I _think_ it's because $1 is being interpreted as a argument to csh _itself_ when it runs .cshrc ... but maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, how to make it work ? See the tcsh(1) section `Alias substitution': If the alias contains a history reference, it undergoes History substitution (q.v.) as though the original command were the previous input line. [riemann:/home/raghu]% alias foo grep \!^ /etc/passwd [riemann:/home/raghu]% foo toor toor:*:0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root: [riemann:/home/raghu]% alias bar grep \!:1 \!:2 [riemann:/home/raghu]% bar '^man' /etc/passwd man:*:9:9:Mister Man Pages:/usr/share/man:/usr/sbin/nologin HTH, Raghavendra. -- N. Raghavendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.retrotexts.net/ Harish-Chandra Research Institute | http://www.mri.ernet.in/ See message headers for contact and OpenPGP information. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: setting an alias in .cshrc with parentheses in it ...
Joe Schmoe wrote: I often run this command: lynx -useragent blah blah (compatible; MSIE blah blah) Note that the custom referrer string that I set includes parentheses. So, to save time, I added this line to my .cshrc: alias lynx lynx -useragent blah blah (compatible; MSIE blah blah) However, when I run lynx, I get this error: Badly placed ()'s If I escape the parentheses with a backslash in ..cshrc, it also doesn't work - it splits the line up and lynx thinks that the next command line argument begins where the first backslash is inserted. So how do I include a command alias that contains parentheses into .cshrc ? thanks. alias lynx 'lynx -useragent blah blah (compatible; MSIE blah blah)' -- [WBR], Arcade. [SAT Astronomy/Think to survive!] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
setting an alias in .cshrc with parentheses in it ...
Hello, I often run this command: lynx -useragent blah blah (compatible; MSIE blah blah) Note that the custom referrer string that I set includes parentheses. So, to save time, I added this line to my .cshrc: alias lynx lynx -useragent blah blah (compatible; MSIE blah blah) However, when I run lynx, I get this error: Badly placed ()'s If I escape the parentheses with a backslash in .cshrc, it also doesn't work - it splits the line up and lynx thinks that the next command line argument begins where the first backslash is inserted. So how do I include a command alias that contains parentheses into .cshrc ? thanks. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
I dont have colors :( How do you turn off the tab beep ? # $FreeBSD: src/etc/root/dot.cshrc,v 1.29 2004/04/01 19:28:00 krion Exp $ # # .cshrc - csh resource script, read at beginning of execution by each shell # # see also csh(1), environ(7). # alias h history 25 alias j jobs -l alias lals -a alias lfls -FA alias llls -lA # A righteous umask umask 22 set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin $HOME/bin) setenv EDITOR joe setenv PAGER more setenv BLOCKSIZE K setenv CLICOLOR_FORCE 1 if ($?prompt) then # An interactive shell -- set some stuff up # set prompt = `/bin/hostname -s`# set prompt = [EMAIL PROTECTED]:%b%~%# set autolist = ambigous set filec set history = 100 set savehist = 100 set mail = (/var/mail/$USER) if ( $?tcsh ) then bindkey ^W backward-delete-word bindkey -k up history-search-backward bindkey -k down history-search-forward endif endif ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
Is .profile read by every shell ? No. .profile is read up by the sh shell and its derivatives. When the csh shell and its derivatives such as tcsh starts, its reads up .cshrc.The effect is somewhat the same, but it uses the syntax is for csh. The syntax for .profile is for sh. The csh shell of more likely not, tcsh, is more friendly for interacticve use than the sh shell.Those who like the sh type syntax nowdays use the derivative bash as their shell. It is also more interactive friendly than plain sh. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 10:12:26AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: The csh shell of more likely not, tcsh, is more friendly for interacticve use than the sh shell.Those who like the sh type syntax nowdays use the derivative bash as their shell. It is also more interactive friendly than plain sh. BTW, why doesn't sh include readline(3) or some other kind of command line editing capability? The only reason for using bash over sh is for many people the lack of a decent command line editor function in sh. Footprint perhaps? jerry Cheers, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
On 2005-03-26 16:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 10:12:26AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: The csh shell of more likely not, tcsh, is more friendly for interacticve use than the sh shell. Those who like the sh type syntax nowdays use the derivative bash as their shell. It is also more interactive friendly than plain sh. BTW, why doesn't sh include readline(3) or some other kind of command line editing capability? The only reason for using bash over sh is for many people the lack of a decent command line editor function in sh. Footprint perhaps? It does. You can enable either emacs-style line editing with: $ set -o emacs or vi-style command line editing with: $ set -o vi Note though that tab completion is not supported for commands or filenames, AFAIK, so you may still want to stick with bash. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:59:18 +0100, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont have colors :( How do you turn off the tab beep ? # $FreeBSD: src/etc/root/dot.cshrc,v 1.29 2004/04/01 19:28:00 krion Exp $ # # .cshrc - csh resource script, read at beginning of execution by each shell # # see also csh(1), environ(7). # alias h history 25 alias j jobs -l alias lals -a alias lfls -FA alias llls -lA # A righteous umask umask 22 set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin $HOME/bin) setenv EDITOR joe setenv PAGER more setenv BLOCKSIZE K setenv CLICOLOR_FORCE 1 if ($?prompt) then # An interactive shell -- set some stuff up # set prompt = `/bin/hostname -s`# set prompt = [EMAIL PROTECTED]:%b%~%# set autolist = ambigous set filec set history = 100 set savehist = 100 set mail = (/var/mail/$USER) if ( $?tcsh ) then bindkey ^W backward-delete-word bindkey -k up history-search-backward bindkey -k down history-search-forward endif endif I did CLICOLOR true and now i have colors :) Still making beep noises doh how do you turn them of ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 01:19:17AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:59:18 +0100, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont have colors :( How do you turn off the tab beep ? # $FreeBSD: src/etc/root/dot.cshrc,v 1.29 2004/04/01 19:28:00 krion Exp $ # # .cshrc - csh resource script, read at beginning of execution by each shell # # see also csh(1), environ(7). # alias h history 25 alias j jobs -l alias lals -a alias lfls -FA alias llls -lA # A righteous umask umask 22 set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin $HOME/bin) setenv EDITOR joe setenv PAGER more setenv BLOCKSIZE K setenv CLICOLOR_FORCE 1 if ($?prompt) then # An interactive shell -- set some stuff up # set prompt = `/bin/hostname -s`# set prompt = [EMAIL PROTECTED]:%b%~%# set autolist = ambigous set filec set history = 100 set savehist = 100 set mail = (/var/mail/$USER) if ( $?tcsh ) then bindkey ^W backward-delete-word bindkey -k up history-search-backward bindkey -k down history-search-forward endif endif I did CLICOLOR true and now i have colors :) Still making beep noises doh how do you turn them of ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] set nobeep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.cshrc
This is the shell config file right ? I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but nothing happens ? FX-53# pw user show gert gert:*:1001:0::0:0:gert:/usr/home/gert:/bin/sh FX-53# pwd /usr/home/gert FX-53# ls -all total 609272 drwxr-xr-x 3 gert wheel512 Mar 26 00:18 . drwxr-xr-- 3 root wheel512 Mar 19 22:44 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 gert wheel802 Mar 25 13:12 .cshrc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-25, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: This is the shell config file right ? I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but nothing happens ? FX-53# pw user show gert gert:*:1001:0::0:0:gert:/usr/home/gert:/bin/sh ^^^ The user isn't using csh, so thus their shell won't read (and probably isn't able to read) the .cshrc file which you've specified. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRKHuk/lo7zvzJioRArGAAJkBFLEM2T2UiAQx6edfuXqJZbvg6gCgqczc s0TKZAKc5WfuTfd6TyIgOVM= =9A5o -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 12:32:59AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: This is the shell config file right ? .cshrc is *a* shell config file. To be more precise it is the file that csh/tcsh (usually) reads in when started. (For details on exactly what files is read at startup by this shell read the csh(1) manpage.) Other shells read other files. (sh looks at .profile, zsh uses zshenv/zlogin/zshrc, etc.) Read the manpage for each shell to find out all the messy details. I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but nothing happens ? Why should anything happen? What did you expect to happen? FX-53# pw user show gert gert:*:1001:0::0:0:gert:/usr/home/gert:/bin/sh FX-53# pwd /usr/home/gert FX-53# ls -all total 609272 drwxr-xr-x 3 gert wheel512 Mar 26 00:18 . drwxr-xr-- 3 root wheel512 Mar 19 22:44 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 gert wheel802 Mar 25 13:12 .cshrc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but nothing happens ? Why should anything happen? What did you expect to happen? This :) FX-53# cat .cshrc # $FreeBSD: src/etc/root/dot.cshrc,v 1.29 2004/04/01 19:28:00 krion Exp $ # # .cshrc - csh resource script, read at beginning of execution by each shell # # see also csh(1), environ(7). # alias h history 25 alias j jobs -l alias lals -a alias lfls -FA alias llls -lA # A righteous umask umask 22 set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin $HOME/bin) setenv EDITOR joe setenv PAGER more setenv BLOCKSIZE K if ($?prompt) then # An interactive shell -- set some stuff up set prompt = `/bin/hostname -s`# set filec set history = 100 set savehist = 100 set mail = (/var/mail/$USER) if ( $?tcsh ) then bindkey ^W backward-delete-word bindkey -k up history-search-backward bindkey -k down history-search-forward endif endif FX-53# So the question is why does root uses csh shell and the a user a sh shell. What brings me to the following question , What is the best shell to use :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
Gert Cuykens wrote: I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but nothing happens ? Why should anything happen? What did you expect to happen? This :) FX-53# cat .cshrc # $FreeBSD: src/etc/root/dot.cshrc,v 1.29 2004/04/01 19:28:00 krion Exp $ # # .cshrc - csh resource script, read at beginning of execution by each shell # # see also csh(1), environ(7). # alias h history 25 alias j jobs -l alias lals -a alias lfls -FA alias llls -lA # A righteous umask umask 22 set path = (/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin $HOME/bin) setenv EDITOR joe setenv PAGER more setenv BLOCKSIZE K if ($?prompt) then # An interactive shell -- set some stuff up set prompt = `/bin/hostname -s`# set filec set history = 100 set savehist = 100 set mail = (/var/mail/$USER) if ( $?tcsh ) then bindkey ^W backward-delete-word bindkey -k up history-search-backward bindkey -k down history-search-forward endif endif FX-53# So the question is why does root uses csh shell and the a user a sh shell. What brings me to the following question , What is the best shell to use :) Useing vipw (as root) change the users shell from: /bin/sh - to - /bin/csh That's all -- Best regards, Chris Performance is directly affected by the perversity of inanimate objects. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 12:55:17AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but nothing happens ? Why should anything happen? What did you expect to happen? This :) FX-53# cat .cshrc [snip] That was not decription of anything happening. It was just the contents of a file. If you meant that you expected that file to be read when you started a shell, and that you did start such a shell, then you should say so. So the question is why does root uses csh shell and the a user a sh shell. Historical reasons mainly. What brings me to the following question , What is the best shell to use :) Whichever one you prefer is obviously the best one for you. Personally I prefer zsh. Other people have other preferences. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:23:11 +0100, Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 12:55:17AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote: I created a new user and put a .cshrc in his home directory but nothing happens ? Why should anything happen? What did you expect to happen? This :) FX-53# cat .cshrc [snip] That was not decription of anything happening. It was just the contents of a file. If you meant that you expected that file to be read when you started a shell, and that you did start such a shell, then you should say so. So the question is why does root uses csh shell and the a user a sh shell. Historical reasons mainly. What brings me to the following question , What is the best shell to use :) Whichever one you prefer is obviously the best one for you. Personally I prefer zsh. Other people have other preferences. Whats the difference between csh ans sh ? Why do you like zsh ? Cant be that much difference right ? PS wich shell gives you a command over view when you double tab like on a linux box ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
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Re: .cshrc
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Re: .cshrc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-26, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: Is .profile read by every shell ? No. If it was, users who disdain Bourne shells (like sh, ksh, zsh, and the ever-popular bash) for whatever reason (and the reasons are myriad, IMO) wouldn't be able to log in. This was alluded to in my post wherein I mentioned that sh probably wouldn't be able to read the .cshrc file (depending upon what you've placed in it). Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRLM/k/lo7zvzJioRAk+cAKCUNn8Qj4vRQO5v7FD1LRm2gc1tswCfWHRG qfTAothpPrSG3q+69KQDG9M= =C3AA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:47:13 +0100, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is .profile read by every shell ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] AFAIK only sh reads .profile -- Kind regards Abu Khaled ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 00:53:45 + (UTC), Christopher Nehren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is .profile read by every shell ? No. If it was, users who disdain Bourne shells (like sh, ksh, zsh, and the ever-popular bash) for whatever reason (and the reasons are myriad, IMO) wouldn't be able to log in. This was alluded to in my post wherein I mentioned that sh probably wouldn't be able to read the .cshrc file (depending upon what you've placed in it). I would like one with allot of colors and a double tab completion that shows every command or file :) Is bash the only one that does that or can csh do that too ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
Gert Cuykens wrote: Is .profile read by every shell ? It's for the Bourne type shells (sh, and bash), but I'm not into those, so I'm not sure if bash cares about .profile or not, or if there's a way to tell it that it should read that. IIRC, there's a .bashrc for bash, just as there is, IIRC, a .shrc for sh, the original Bourne shell. (You do know that bash is an acronym for Bourne Again SHell, right? A play on the English translation of Jesus' words to Nicodemus in John III:iii: Except a man be born again ... which was probably particularly funny in America in the late 1970s...) .cshrc is read by csh/tcsh, which, incidentally enough, are the same thing on FreeBSD unless for some reason diff(1) is idiotic in this regard: [604] Fri 25.Mar.2005 19:48:40 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/shared] # diff /bin/csh /bin/tcsh --- and I suppose that's why there's no .tcshrc AFAIK on FBSD. HTH, Kevin Kinsey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
I would like one with allot of colors and a double tab completion that shows every command or file :) Is bash the only one that does that or can csh do that too ? Hey Gert, I use tcsh and have these variables in my .cshrc: setenv CLICOLOR_FORCE 1 set prompt = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]:%b%~%# ' set autolist = ambigous It hasn't got a lot of colours but enough to distingiush the files from folders etc... And autocompletion and hints. Arno ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-26, Gert Cuykens scribbled these curious markings: I would like one with allot of colors and a double tab completion that shows every command or file :) Uhm, colours where? And why follow Bash's silly example of requiring two tabs when you can use one? And why use tab completion which requires two tabs and which beeps at you for no reason instead of using ^D completion which only requires one instance of ^D and which doesn't beep at you? Is bash the only one that does that or can csh do that too ? No, csh can do this too, despite what seem to be misconceptions about csh still being in the dark ages. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRMXHk/lo7zvzJioRAl5OAJ423MK2MbD4qD1pDjsIEYVm+yhowgCgqRVM OteBGH37ETBUybOSsIZmR0M= =Xn6w -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .cshrc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-26, Kevin Kinsey scribbled these curious markings: --- and I suppose that's why there's no .tcshrc AFAIK on FBSD. There's no .tcshrc file, but if you read the manual for csh you'll see that there are semantics for processing both files, and that they are not equivalent. Users who have used Net|OpenBSD will know that having separate files is useful, because those systems ship with 4.4BSD csh and have TENEX csh (the one that's in FreeBSD) in the ports tree. 4.4BSD csh doesn't read the .tcshrc file, which is good if you want to put TENEX csh commands in a file without either using ugly if() statements or breaking csh. Best Regards, Christopher Nehren -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCRMaHk/lo7zvzJioRAqM5AJ4gprZe9EtPZsszSalpkuDCNEF26QCePS8t d6/s4xWcfJssagbTKuu8MZc= =Fyd1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- I abhor a system designed for the user, if that word is a coded pejorative meaning stupid and unsophisticated. -- Ken Thompson If you ask the wrong questions, you get answers like 42 and God. Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/.cshrc and /.profile
Dear list What are the /.cshrc and /.profile files for? Since /etc holds the system wide conf files and ~ the user specific ones I do not understand why there are the ones in /. TIA ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /.cshrc and /.profile
On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 12:56:01AM +0800, h0444lp6 wrote: Dear list What are the /.cshrc and /.profile files for? Since /etc holds the system wide conf files and ~ the user specific ones I do not understand why there are the ones in /. When the machine boots into single-user mode, the root user's HOME is set to /. -- Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
convert .cshrc to .bashrc
Hi, I'm almost new to freebsd about a few month now. It took me some while to learn how to customize my .cshrc file. I would like to switch to bash2 now. 1) I was wondering if there is a tool (from the ports collection) that can automatically convert my customized .cshrc to a .bashrc compatibel file (converting aliases, path stuff, prompt etc). 2) Is there a skeleton (dot.bashrc) file somewhere I can download somewhere for bash, like the dot.cshrc. Many thanks ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: convert .cshrc to .bashrc
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 12:11:54AM +0100, Colin J. Raven wrote: Just google sample .bashrc that should yield something you can begin with. The two aren't *that* different y'know, so don't get stressed about it. + 2) Is there a skeleton (dot.bashrc) file somewhere I can + download somewhere for bash, like the dot.cshrc. As said above, Google is most assuredly your best friend in this instance. or /usr/ports/shells/bash2/work/bash-2.05b/examples/startup-files Cheers, -- Robert Barten ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: convert .cshrc to .bashrc
On Friday 30 January 2004 23:32, Robert Barten wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 12:11:54AM +0100, Colin J. Raven wrote: Just google sample .bashrc that should yield something you can begin with. The two aren't *that* different y'know, so don't get stressed about it. + 2) Is there a skeleton (dot.bashrc) file somewhere I can + download somewhere for bash, like the dot.cshrc. As said above, Google is most assuredly your best friend in this instance. or /usr/ports/shells/bash2/work/bash-2.05b/examples/startup-files I think www.dotfiles.org has some. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: convert .cshrc to .bashrc
+ On Friday 30 January 2004 23:32, Robert Barten wrote: + On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 12:11:54AM +0100, Colin J. Raven wrote: + Just google sample .bashrc that should yield something + you can begin + with. The two aren't *that* different y'know, so don't + get stressed + about it. + + + 2) Is there a skeleton (dot.bashrc) file somewhere I can + + download somewhere for bash, like the dot.cshrc. + + As said above, Google is most assuredly your best friend in this + instance. + + or + + /usr/ports/shells/bash2/work/bash-2.05b/examples/startup-files This is good stuff!! I had absolutely *no* knowledge that these existed Reading 'em now, with great interest - thanks much Mr. Barten + I think www.dotfiles.org has some. Ummm Daniela, mumble Perhaps you are referring to: http://www.dotfiles.com/index.php3?cat_id=6 Which was an excellent suggestion BTW! Please excuse me, my exoskeleton requires steam cleaning, so I must leave. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to tweak the contents of the initial .cshrc file
Hi All, I am looking to customize the post-install process of a custom FreeBSD 4.6 server. I would like to install some custom packages when a root user logs in to the system for the first time after a fresh install. If I knew where in the install CD1, the actual creation of root's .cshrc takes place, I thought I could add some custom script to that and take care of my post-install configuration process. If that sounds like too round-about a way to achieve what I want, please suggest alternatives. Thanks. Raja To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: How to tweak the contents of the initial .cshrc file
check out /usr/share/skel/dot.cshrc -Adam (07.18.2002 @ 1338 PST): Raja Velu said, in 0.6K: Hi All, I am looking to customize the post-install process of a custom FreeBSD 4.6 server. I would like to install some custom packages when a root user logs in to the system for the first time after a fresh install. If I knew where in the install CD1, the actual creation of root's .cshrc takes place, I thought I could add some custom script to that and take care of my post-install configuration process. If that sounds like too round-about a way to achieve what I want, please suggest alternatives. Thanks. Raja To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message end of How to tweak the contents of the initial .cshrc file from Raja Velu -- Oh good, my dog found the chainsaw. -Lilo, Lilo Stitch Adam Weinberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vectors.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
