Re: 5 TB server

2008-12-03 Thread Karl Vogel
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:45:40 +0200, Valentin Bud [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: V I perfectly agree with you and yes there might be monsters out there V in the ZFS on FreeBSD but the fact that us (the community) embrace V the change and apply it makes the development of it possible and even V faster.

Re: 5 TB server

2008-12-01 Thread Valentin Bud
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is one of the main reasons i want to go with ZFS. Another would be the filesystem level compression of the data. I have noticed that 3dmax files (one of the programs the company works with) are very compressable

Re: 5 TB server

2008-12-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Mb to ~ 7Mb). will it be majority of data??? About 40% of it. 50% adobe *.psd and the other 10% all sort of data. so make sense. but make sure you do regular backups. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: 5 TB server

2008-11-30 Thread Valentin Bud
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Modulok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/28/08, Valentin Bud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello community, I have to come up with a solution for a company that has as we speak 4 TB of data spread among 3 computers with lots of HDDs. Of course i've recommend them

Re: 5 TB server

2008-11-30 Thread Valentin Bud
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Karl Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:48:45 +0200, Valentin Bud [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: V I have to come up with a solution for a company that has as we speak 4 TB V of data spread among 3 computers with lots of HDDs. Of course I've V

Re: 5 TB server

2008-11-30 Thread Valentin Bud
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Karl Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:45:31 -0500, I spewed something along the lines of: K In my experience, completely new filesystems or operating systems need at K least 5 years in the field to weed out all the weird corner-cases. I

Re: 5 TB server

2008-11-30 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I perfectly agree with you and yes there might be monsters out there in the ZFS on FreeBSD but the fact that us (the community) embrace the change and apply it makes the development of it possible and even faster. I don't want to offend anyone or to start a war this is just my opinion.

Re: 5 TB server

2008-11-30 Thread Wojciech Puchar
This is one of the main reasons i want to go with ZFS. Another would be the filesystem level compression of the data. I have noticed that 3dmax files (one of the programs the company works with) are very compressable (from 50 Mb to ~ 7Mb). will it be majority of data???

5 TB server

2008-11-28 Thread Valentin Bud
Hello community, I have to come up with a solution for a company that has as we speak 4 TB of data spread among 3 computers with lots of HDDs. Of course i've recommend them to buy a server for that storage capacity and for data organization. I thought of going on the ZFS way (on FreeBSD of

RE: 5 TB server

2008-11-28 Thread Johan Hendriks
Onderwerp: 5 TB server Hello community, I have to come up with a solution for a company that has as we speak 4 TB of data spread among 3 computers with lots of HDDs. Of course i've recommend them to buy a server for that storage capacity and for data organization. I thought of going

Re: 5 TB server

2008-11-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I thought of going on the ZFS way (on FreeBSD of course) with some i think you already tested it well and compared to normal UFS. raidz. One of the problems is that the server will stay in their office so it has to be quite silent. I honestly don't know what hardware to look for so if you

Re: 5 TB server

2008-11-28 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Friday 28 November 2008 04:48:45 Valentin Bud wrote: Hello community, I have to come up with a solution for a company that has as we speak 4 TB of data spread among 3 computers with lots of HDDs. Of course i've recommend them to buy a server for that storage capacity and for data

Re: 5 TB server

2008-11-28 Thread Valentin Bud
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought of going on the ZFS way (on FreeBSD of course) with some i think you already tested it well and compared to normal UFS. Well when ( if ) i'm going to actually buy the server i will so some tests with ZFS and

Re: 5 TB server

2008-11-28 Thread Valentin Bud
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Johan Hendriks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Onderwerp: 5 TB server Hello community, I have to come up with a solution for a company that has as we speak 4 TB of data spread among 3 computers with lots of HDDs. Of course i've recommend them to buy a server

Re: 5 TB server

2008-11-28 Thread Valentin Bud
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 28 November 2008 04:48:45 Valentin Bud wrote: Hello community, I have to come up with a solution for a company that has as we speak 4 TB of data spread among 3 computers with lots of HDDs. Of course i've

Re: 5 TB server

2008-11-28 Thread Nejc Skoberne
Hey, if it has to be single volume i would use gstripe, or if it should be protected somehow - graid3 or graid5, and use UFS. geom_raid5 is stable? If yes, how come it is not included in FreeBSD yet? Nejc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

RE: 5 TB server

2008-11-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Well if you mean a lot of disk then you mean a lot of heat, and with that comes good cooling and with that comes fans and most of them when running at full speed will give you some noise. i have 8 SATA drives in one case, nothing special, and just one small fan added for upper drives. all

Re: 5 TB server

2008-11-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
tests with ZFS and some with UFS. On the ZFS side the most attractive thing is the backup and of course the easiness of administration. don't get fooled. if i were you i would get any motherboard with 8 SATA ports, up to 8 1TB disks, cheapest available CPU, good PCIe gigabit cards or two.

Re: 5 TB server

2008-11-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
geom_raid5 is stable? If yes, how come it is not included in FreeBSD yet? no idea how stable is it, except that it work for me on one computer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions

Re: 5 TB server

2008-11-28 Thread Modulok
On 11/28/08, Valentin Bud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello community, I have to come up with a solution for a company that has as we speak 4 TB of data spread among 3 computers with lots of HDDs. Of course i've recommend them to buy a server for that storage capacity and for data

Re: 5 TB server

2008-11-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I'm not sure what kind of fans everyone here is running, with all these complaints about noise... me too. i have a quite average cheap case with 3 5.25 and 5 3.5 bays, and put 8 drives here. i needed 3.5=5.25 mount kits for upper drives, and added small fan for these upper drives ONLY

Re: 5 TB server

2008-11-28 Thread Karl Vogel
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:48:45 +0200, Valentin Bud [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: V I have to come up with a solution for a company that has as we speak 4 TB V of data spread among 3 computers with lots of HDDs. Of course I've V recommend them to buy a server for that storage capacity and for data V

Re: 5 TB server

2008-11-28 Thread Karl Vogel
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:45:31 -0500, I spewed something along the lines of: K In my experience, completely new filesystems or operating systems need at K least 5 years in the field to weed out all the weird corner-cases. I might K trust ZFS on Sun hardware (*with* vendor support) at this point,