RE: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-25 Thread Boris Spirialitious
--- Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 20:53 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-24 Thread em1897
- From: Nick Pavlica [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Boris Spirialitious [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:05:59 -0700 Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre Hi Boris, I haven't had an opportunity to work with any AMD64 hardware yet

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-24 Thread em1897
of this propaganda. The cluelessness in the performance list is a good indication. -Original Message- From: jason henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 00:57:58 -0500 Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386

RE: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-24 Thread Subhro
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 20:53 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre I think that warning people

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-24 Thread em1897
-pre -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 20:53 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre I think that warning people

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-24 Thread em1897
I think the point of a list is so that someone can say oh yes, I had problems with the em driver in amd64 also; try card X. But instead you get a lot of people with no real idea trying to explain away the problem, as if there is no chance that the amd64 implementant just plain sucks wind. If

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-24 Thread Boris Spirialitious
--- jason henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The answer, Boris, is that the team has no idea what they're doing. Check out some of the threads on performance testing. They tune little pieces here and there, and break 10 other things in the process.

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-24 Thread Boris Spirialitious
I think you may be right. I try Broadcom gigE card with same results. Very slow for amd64 build. With same hardware, very good results with 4.9/i386, not too bad with 5.4-pre/i386, and very, very poor with 5.4-pre/amd64. Boris --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the point of a list is so that

AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-23 Thread Boris Spirialitious
--- Emanuel Strobl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, 23. März 2005 01:19 schrieb Boris Spirialitious: -- Emanuel Strobl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, 23. März 2005 00:38 schrieb Boris Spirialitious: I have opteron 246 system with 2 port intel em card. We have test

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-23 Thread em1897
The answer, Boris, is that the team has no idea what they're doing. Check out some of the threads on performance testing. They tune little pieces here and there, and break 10 other things in the process. Matt Dillon determined that 10,000 ints/second was optimal. Of course if you're passing 10Kpps

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-23 Thread jason henson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The answer, Boris, is that the team has no idea what they're doing. Check out some of the threads on performance testing. They tune little pieces here and there, and break 10 other things in the process. Matt Dillon determined that 10,000 ints/second was optimal. Of course

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-23 Thread em1897
  The answer, Boris, is that the team has no idea what  they're doing. Check out some of the threads on  performance testing. They tune little pieces here  and there, and break 10 other things in the process.  Matt Dillon determined that 10,000 ints/second  was optimal. Of course if you're passing

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-23 Thread Nick Pavlica
Hi Boris, I haven't had an opportunity to work with any AMD64 hardware yet, but have had good results with 5.4.? on i686. I can relate to your frustration, but can say that I was able to greatly improve 5.x performance with some effort. For example I went from a maximum sustained disk write of

Re: AMD64 much slower than i386 on FreeBSD 5.4-pre

2005-03-23 Thread jason henson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The answer, Boris, is that the team has no idea what they're doing. Check out some of the threads on performance testing. They tune little pieces here and there, and break 10 other things in the process. Matt Dillon determined that 10,000 ints/second was optimal.