Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
KEY='8a0283ceb2478ad5bec8e611dfc6299b' TOKEN='oc0f+hmaYdsqXkcC+UqfrUKB+a1JiYX8pJHB6oYPIEY=' VERSION=5.0 On 12/7/06, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Can you email me the output of /var/db/bsdstats? - --On Thursday, December 07, 2006 13:38:28 +0300 Abdullah Al-Marrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm using it in my laptop, but I don't see my country State of Qatar in http://www.bsdstats.org/countries.php Is it supported? Thank you, -Abdullah - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFeADH4QvfyHIvDvMRAuYtAKCftqpwXxhFc2wtmAMbHnMTSQ7r7QCeI0JH 15AmGUXeq9zhyO2UkNgE4y4= =f0xv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, December 08, 2006 11:20:23 +0300 Abdullah Al-Marrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KEY='8a0283ceb2478ad5bec8e611dfc6299b' TOKEN='oc0f+hmaYdsqXkcC+UqfrUKB+a1JiYX8pJHB6oYPIEY=' VERSION=5.0 Thanks, fixed ... On 12/7/06, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Can you email me the output of /var/db/bsdstats? - --On Thursday, December 07, 2006 13:38:28 +0300 Abdullah Al-Marrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm using it in my laptop, but I don't see my country State of Qatar in http://www.bsdstats.org/countries.php Is it supported? Thank you, -Abdullah - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFeADH4QvfyHIvDvMRAuYtAKCftqpwXxhFc2wtmAMbHnMTSQ7r7QCeI0JH 15AmGUXeq9zhyO2UkNgE4y4= =f0xv -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFeTc04QvfyHIvDvMRAkWKAJ4tVmj9sXxnYWhRY22aJ1jsJSoqsQCg1ne2 0v7Hq3vGOfZyvoz66aRsjQc= =AkAY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
Hello, I'm using it in my laptop, but I don't see my country State of Qatar in http://www.bsdstats.org/countries.php Is it supported? Thank you, -Abdullah ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Can you email me the output of /var/db/bsdstats? - --On Thursday, December 07, 2006 13:38:28 +0300 Abdullah Al-Marrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm using it in my laptop, but I don't see my country State of Qatar in http://www.bsdstats.org/countries.php Is it supported? Thank you, -Abdullah - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFeADH4QvfyHIvDvMRAuYtAKCftqpwXxhFc2wtmAMbHnMTSQ7r7QCeI0JH 15AmGUXeq9zhyO2UkNgE4y4= =f0xv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 04:09 -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Numbers are up from November, which is what we hope for ... not drastically, but 7.5% isn't shabby either: Last MonthThis Month % Change Total Systems 2085 2254 7.50% alpha3 3 0.00% amd64 173 163-6.13% i386 1893 2072 8.64% ia641 0 0.00% sparc64 1516 6.25% 4.x 224 220-1.82% 5.x 303 37218.55% 6.x 1533 1623 5.55% 7.x 253935.90% The % Change is calculated incorrectly. It uses the This Month figure as the baseline instead of the Last Month, unless you specifically intend to do it that way. e.g. 7.x 25 - 39 Change = +14 +14/25 = +56% +14/39 = +36% Wayne ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, 09:50:20 -0400 Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - --On Wednesday, December 06, 2006 00:31:49 +1100 Ian Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] report_devices sends the output of pciconf -l | grep -v none (active devices) Marc, I've wondered for a while why you're excluding 'none' devices, eg on my Compaq Armada 1500c (recent 5.5-STABLE) 'pciconf -lv' includes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:8:0: class=0x03 card=0xb1010e11 chip=0x00c0102c rev=0x64 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Asiliant (Chips And Technologies)' device = '69000 AGP/PCI Flat Panel/CRT VGA Accelerator' class= display subclass = VGA which is not exactly an inactive device here? 'k, my question back at you is why is there no driver associated with it? Shouldn't there be ... ? It's a very good question :) but not one to which I know the answer. dmesg, since 5.4-RELEASE through 5.5-STABLE reports: pci0: display, VGA at device 8.0 (no driver attached) I couldn't find a pciconf saved from those days, but on 4.5-RELEASE dmesg always reported it as: pci0: Chips Technologies 69000 SVGA controller at 8.0 with no difference in functionality. Xorg recognises it fine either way, as does VESA (which now only reports itself on a verbose dmesg) But, that said ... I've removed the none driver, since all it will do i make the list longer, but it doesn't hurt anything ... I notice tonight that all of the 'none' devices reported there all seem also to be display adapters. On my Thinkpad T23 (not yet reporting) I see the pciconf 'none' devices are an Intel 82801CA/CAM SMBus Controller and a Lucent LT Winmodem (shrug?) Perhaps they'd be more useful summarised by OS, or at least prefaced with 'f' or 'o', 'n', 'd' or something else indicative? Just an idea .. Click on the FreeBSD icon, and you'll get FreeBSD specific stats ... but, good point about the front page ones, will look at adding a label for there ... Ah yes, and I see you're still working on things now. Good stuff. Ahem, could it be someone from (this time) Australia is gaming the system? We've gone up from 425 a little earlier to (just now) 555 FreeBSD systems, and while we're never sorry to be beating the Yanks, especially at their own game, I doubt that it's fair dinkum, mate :) Cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Thursday, December 07, 2006 00:26:19 +1100 Ian Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice tonight that all of the 'none' devices reported there all seem also to be display adapters. On my Thinkpad T23 (not yet reporting) I see the pciconf 'none' devices are an Intel 82801CA/CAM SMBus Controller and a Lucent LT Winmodem (shrug?) Actually, check the list now ... Audio controllers, SCSI controllers, Modems, etc ... 85 devices so far ... Ahem, could it be someone from (this time) Australia is gaming the system? We've gone up from 425 a little earlier to (just now) 555 FreeBSD systems, and while we're never sorry to be beating the Yanks, especially at their own game, I doubt that it's fair dinkum, mate :) nope, Antony finally got permission to add their client servers to the mix, and has been working on getting it deployed to all 800+ of them :) Anyone else out there with similar deployments to offset him? :) - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFds264QvfyHIvDvMRAvwEAJ4///GDLKvhzULlhpx8gxzHUq+ohACgxGgm zNb77KoPf5LlVdHmQFfR8S8= =xjp9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
On 7/12/2006 12:26 AM, Ian Smith wrote: Ahem, could it be someone from (this time) Australia is gaming the system? We've gone up from 425 a little earlier to (just now) 555 FreeBSD systems, and while we're never sorry to be beating the Yanks, especially at their own game, I doubt that it's fair dinkum, mate :) As Marc said, that would be my doing... there's still a few more to come too! Besides, it's good to see Australia on top (where it belongs)... ;-) Cheers Antony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:13:53 -0400 Marc G. Fournier wrote: report_devices sends the output of pciconf -l | grep -v none (active devices) Wow, thus you throw out the info about hardware not used/don't have drivers. Are you really not interested at the latter? WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
Marc G. Fournier wrote: report_devices sends the output of pciconf -l | grep -v none (active devices) http://bsdstats.org/freebsd/devices.php?show=class suggests that there are 27,000 bridge devices in use, but according to the main report on the front page, only ~3,000 FreeBSD systems overall. How can this be? Svein Halvor signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Tuesday, December 05, 2006 15:20:53 +0300 Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:13:53 -0400 Marc G. Fournier wrote: report_devices sends the output of pciconf -l | grep -v none (active devices) Wow, thus you throw out the info about hardware not used/don't have drivers. Are you really not interested at the latter? We had actually discussed including it, but we had no way of determining not in use vs no driver available ... several have tried to figure out something, but nobody, as of yet, has been able to do so :( Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFdW1q4QvfyHIvDvMRAnpzAJ0fVuTgMNsc1c0kme3N0C3TOPsdLgCgztRM 08uKisTQuJkD9EkJ9lNJzRo= =CE/6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Tuesday, December 05, 2006 13:35:05 +0100 Svein Halvor Halvorsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: report_devices sends the output of pciconf -l | grep -v none (active devices) http://bsdstats.org/freebsd/devices.php?show=class suggests that there are 27,000 bridge devices in use, but according to the main report on the front page, only ~3,000 FreeBSD systems overall. How can this be? Error in the SQL query ... fixed now, only 13k ... note that the bridge class includes drivers such as: 36811 | hostb3| 1103 | 1022 | 06| | 2006-12-01 06:39:55.706052 36811 | hostb2| 1102 | 1022 | 06| | 2006-12-01 06:39:55.706052 36811 | hostb1| 1101 | 1022 | 06| | 2006-12-01 06:39:55.706052 36811 | hostb0| 1100 | 1022 | 06| | 2006-12-01 06:39:55.706052 36811 | pcib6 | 005d | 10de | 06| 0400 | 2006-12-01 06:39:55.706052 36811 | pcib5 | 005d | 10de | 06| 0400 | 2006-12-01 06:39:55.706052 36811 | pcib4 | 005c | 10de | 06| 0401 | 2006-12-01 06:39:55.706052 so, in the above case, there are 7 in that one machine ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFdXAU4QvfyHIvDvMRAmNAAJoD5MAisV5npdiES9lgPURFLGVetACfSngi 5eDiJVOZk3XR9MTNPa+jJeE= =96xD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] report_devices sends the output of pciconf -l | grep -v none (active devices) Marc, I've wondered for a while why you're excluding 'none' devices, eg on my Compaq Armada 1500c (recent 5.5-STABLE) 'pciconf -lv' includes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:8:0: class=0x03 card=0xb1010e11 chip=0x00c0102c rev=0x64 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Asiliant (Chips And Technologies)' device = '69000 AGP/PCI Flat Panel/CRT VGA Accelerator' class= display subclass = VGA which is not exactly an inactive device here? While at it, I'm finding the release stats rather confusing, mixing in all of the various release versions of various *BSDs. Having used FreeBSD since 2.2, I have a fair idea which of those numbers are likely not FreeBSD versions, and even an inkling of which OS some of the others might be, but many mightn't know which were apples and which oranges. Perhaps they'd be more useful summarised by OS, or at least prefaced with 'f' or 'o', 'n', 'd' or something else indicative? Just an idea .. Cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Wednesday, December 06, 2006 00:31:49 +1100 Ian Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] report_devices sends the output of pciconf -l | grep -v none (active devices) Marc, I've wondered for a while why you're excluding 'none' devices, eg on my Compaq Armada 1500c (recent 5.5-STABLE) 'pciconf -lv' includes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:8:0: class=0x03 card=0xb1010e11 chip=0x00c0102c rev=0x64 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Asiliant (Chips And Technologies)' device = '69000 AGP/PCI Flat Panel/CRT VGA Accelerator' class= display subclass = VGA which is not exactly an inactive device here? 'k, my question back at you is why is there no driver associated with it? Shouldn't there be ... ? But, that said ... I've removed the none driver, since all it will do i make the list longer, but it doesn't hurt anything ... Perhaps they'd be more useful summarised by OS, or at least prefaced with 'f' or 'o', 'n', 'd' or something else indicative? Just an idea .. Click on the FreeBSD icon, and you'll get FreeBSD specific stats ... but, good point about the front page ones, will look at adding a label for there ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFdXkc4QvfyHIvDvMRAhWuAKDZfFgz3ycsvUENh7cRkWgu2JghgwCaAw6L 8jWh2cZjP2tOJg+fEKnFI34= =auh/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
On Dec 3, 2006, at 9:43 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 04:09:18 -0400 Marc G. Fournier wrote: Since the point of this is to be run monthly, out of periodic monthly, the 1st of the month is when all hosts should be 'renewing' their information ... I have some diskless workstations running FreeBSD. Sure users are not supposed to use them _every_ first day of month (ex. when this day is a weekend or a holiday). Whould stats from those workstations be useless? How do machines report in? I have several FreeBSD boxes most of which have non-routable addresses and are behind a firewall. Can I have a spokesman box which reports for all? If I can how? hal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
hal wrote: Since the point of this is to be run monthly, out of periodic monthly, the 1st of the month is when all hosts should be 'renewing' their information Cool project. Just added my main machine to it. Is there any way for me to see what it's really sending? Looks like it sends a bunch of http posts, rather than one output file that could be examined? My script skills are novice at best. -Wayne ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:28:15 -0400 Marc G. Fournier wrote: --On Monday, December 04, 2006 02:07:08 +0300 Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 17:05:04 -0400 Marc G. Fournier wrote: If its diskless, will each reboot end up reporting as a whole new host each time, or is there some way of saving that /var/db/bsdstats across reboots? We use memory mounted /var. :-( Ok, let's only our servers do the reporting. 'k, I'm clueless on diskless, so this may or may not be doable ... but would it be possible to cp the bsdstats file from the 'disk mount server' to /var/db/bsdstats on reboot? Say, something scripted like: if [ ! -f /var/db/bsdstats ]; then if [ -f remotemount/bsdstats.`hostname` ]; then cp remotemount/bsdstats.`hostname` /var/db/bsdstats else run 300.statistics cp /var/db/bsdstats remotemount/bsdstats.`hostname` fi fi Yes, those machines use NFS home directories which may be used. Thanks for the tip. Add something like that (real code at least) to the init/rc file used on the diskless station, to be run after all mounts are up? As I said I'm afraid those machines may give some destabilization to bsdstats results when the First of month is a holiday/weekend. So I'm not sure if it's a good thing to report them to bsdstats.org. What do you think? WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:46:49 +0300 Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I said I'm afraid those machines may give some destabilization to bsdstats results when the First of month is a holiday/weekend. So I'm not sure if it's a good thing to report them to bsdstats.org. What do you think? Report them. -- IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD user Intellectual Property is nowhere near as valuable as Intellect BOFH excuse #328: Fiber optics caused gas main leak signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Monday, December 04, 2006 20:46:49 +0300 Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Add something like that (real code at least) to the init/rc file used on the diskless station, to be run after all mounts are up? As I said I'm afraid those machines may give some destabilization to bsdstats results when the First of month is a holiday/weekend. So I'm not sure if it's a good thing to report them to bsdstats.org. What do you think? Run them, but, have the script to pull the bsdstats file over also run the script at the same time, so that not only do they update their stats 'on the 1st' (if they are up), but also when they reboot ... that way, it is guaranteed to report once a month ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFdGzx4QvfyHIvDvMRApRnAJ0dz7Kr3gPmznH5kxhpSuGotQCzFwCgtM5o 4sCeAj1OsrJkAFU9ZQJ4QpM= =gZYQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
On 5/12/2006 2:47 AM, hal wrote: On Dec 3, 2006, at 9:43 AM, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 04:09:18 -0400 Marc G. Fournier wrote: Since the point of this is to be run monthly, out of periodic monthly, the 1st of the month is when all hosts should be 'renewing' their information ... I have some diskless workstations running FreeBSD. Sure users are not supposed to use them _every_ first day of month (ex. when this day is a weekend or a holiday). Whould stats from those workstations be useless? How do machines report in? I have several FreeBSD boxes most of which have non-routable addresses and are behind a firewall. Can I have a spokesman box which reports for all? If I can how? The machines use simple HTTP requests using the 'fetch' program.. if the machines have Internet access via NAT, then that should be sufficient. If they live on a closed network without Internet access, but you have an internal-facing server that does have Internet access, I have a draft document on setting up Apache on that server to forward proxy to the main BSDstats site. It will be posted to the BSDstats site once I've finished it (probably in about a week). If you want to help test the draft instructions prior to publishing, email me privately and I'll provide you with the relevant details. Cheers Antony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
Marc G. Fournier wrote: --On Monday, December 04, 2006 20:46:49 +0300 Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Add something like that (real code at least) to the init/rc file used on the diskless station, to be run after all mounts are up? As I said I'm afraid those machines may give some destabilization to bsdstats results when the First of month is a holiday/weekend. So I'm not sure if it's a good thing to report them to bsdstats.org. What do you think? Run them, but, have the script to pull the bsdstats file over also run the script at the same time, so that not only do they update their stats 'on the 1st' (if they are up), but also when they reboot ... that way, it is guaranteed to report once a month ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 Wouldn't this be better served in FreeBSD-Ports? -- Best regards, Chris Entropy has us outnumbered. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:46:08 -0400 Marc G. Fournier wrote: --On Monday, December 04, 2006 20:46:49 +0300 Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Add something like that (real code at least) to the init/rc file used on the diskless station, to be run after all mounts are up? As I said I'm afraid those machines may give some destabilization to bsdstats results when the First of month is a holiday/weekend. So I'm not sure if it's a good thing to report them to bsdstats.org. What do you think? Run them, but, have the script to pull the bsdstats file over also run the script at the same time, so that not only do they update their stats 'on the 1st' (if they are up), but also when they reboot ... That is what I thought firstly... that way, it is guaranteed to report once a month ... ...but you seem to pay most attention to those hosts reported at the first day. Thanks all for your tips, I'll report those hosts. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Monday, December 04, 2006 22:50:26 +0300 Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...but you seem to pay most attention to those hosts reported at the first day. Thanks all for your tips, I'll report those hosts. I'm trying to look at both sets of #s ... http://www.bsdstats.org/os_report.php I think its more from paranoia at the start of all this, when we got that slew of false reports in ... I'm not so sure that that paranoia is still as valid, but it doesn't hurt either :) - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFdMzn4QvfyHIvDvMRAhlkAJ0ZShdNFd+o4YRrpgpn+AHQmgVoGQCgsvYN AD+mYuZdom4fIbpVpNYKo5o= =v1HC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
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hal wrote:
Since the point of this is to be run monthly, out of periodic
monthly, the 1st
of the month is when all hosts should be 'renewing' their information
Cool project. Just added my main machine to it.
Is there any way for me to see what it's really sending? Looks like it sends
a bunch of http posts, rather than one output file that could be examined?
My script skills are novice at best.
You could modify the 'do_fetch' function to write to a disk file ... but, a
break down of what it sends:
{enable|disable}_token.php ... just sends the KEY/TOKEN from /var/db/bsdstats
to turn on/off the record
report_system ... sends:
REL=`/usr/bin/uname -r`
ARCH=`/usr/bin/uname -m`
OS=`/usr/bin/uname -s`
report_devices sends the output of pciconf -l | grep -v none (active devices)
report_ports sends the output of pkg_info
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BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The following numbers reflect those systems that reported in on the 1st day of the month of December, compared against the 1st day of the previous month. Since the point of this is to be run monthly, out of periodic monthly, the 1st of the month is when all hosts should be 'renewing' their information ... and this report is only the FreeBSD hosts: Numbers are up from November, which is what we hope for ... not drastically, but 7.5% isn't shabby either: Last MonthThis Month % Change Total Systems 2085 2254 7.50% alpha 3 3 0.00% amd64173 163-6.13% i386 1893 2072 8.64% ia64 1 0 0.00% sparc64 1516 6.25% 4.x224 220-1.82% 5.x303 37218.55% 6.x 1533 1623 5.55% 7.x 253935.90% For those wishing to see more formal stats, or more detail, please check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... we've recently added on a Ports Report, that is present in v5.0 available in /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats ... Thank you to all that are currently participating ... hopefully next month we can see as much growth as we did this one (although we know of a site in Australia that is supposedly about to add 800+ hosts, so we should see that easily) ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFcoYw4QvfyHIvDvMRAqDLAJsEsLvSysGG0GVDfmivXv3BML1wJQCglQo4 Lztb4tiJcOP68dSoYJVzpjo= =w0V7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 04:09:18 -0400 Marc G. Fournier wrote: Since the point of this is to be run monthly, out of periodic monthly, the 1st of the month is when all hosts should be 'renewing' their information ... I have some diskless workstations running FreeBSD. Sure users are not supposed to use them _every_ first day of month (ex. when this day is a weekend or a holiday). Whould stats from those workstations be useless? Thanks! WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
On 12/3/06, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Numbers are up from November, which is what we hope for ... not drastically, but 7.5% isn't shabby either: For those wishing to see more formal stats, or more detail, please check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... we've recently added on a Ports Report, that is present in v5.0 available in /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats ... Thank you to all that are currently participating ... hopefully next month we can see as much growth as we did this one (although we know of a site in Australia that is supposedly about to add 800+ hosts, so we should see that easily) ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 Hello, I just installed it in my 9 FreeBSD 6.x servers ;) Nice tool to show the BSD power! Thank you, -A ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Sunday, December 03, 2006 19:43:41 +0300 Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 04:09:18 -0400 Marc G. Fournier wrote: Since the point of this is to be run monthly, out of periodic monthly, the 1st of the month is when all hosts should be 'renewing' their information ... I have some diskless workstations running FreeBSD. Sure users are not supposed to use them _every_ first day of month (ex. when this day is a weekend or a holiday). Whould stats from those workstations be useless? Good question ... not useless, but not sure how (and/or if) it would work ... the script creates a /var/db/bsdstats file that contains the KEY/TOKEN that is used to talk to the server, which is used on subsequent reports so that it doesn't get reported as a 'new host', but just updates the old data ... If its diskless, will each reboot end up reporting as a whole new host each time, or is there some way of saving that /var/db/bsdstats across reboots? - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFczwA4QvfyHIvDvMRAp6PAJ0dkcwrKTlzhjgqsfeSR8i8XYaS7QCgr4Td UKzme94Y7Zi2AYOGPzN/Bls= =r9D6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 17:05:04 -0400 Marc G. Fournier wrote: If its diskless, will each reboot end up reporting as a whole new host each time, or is there some way of saving that /var/db/bsdstats across reboots? We use memory mounted /var. :-( Ok, let's only our servers do the reporting. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Monday, December 04, 2006 02:07:08 +0300 Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 17:05:04 -0400 Marc G. Fournier wrote: If its diskless, will each reboot end up reporting as a whole new host each time, or is there some way of saving that /var/db/bsdstats across reboots? We use memory mounted /var. :-( Ok, let's only our servers do the reporting. 'k, I'm clueless on diskless, so this may or may not be doable ... but would it be possible to cp the bsdstats file from the 'disk mount server' to /var/db/bsdstats on reboot? Say, something scripted like: if [ ! -f /var/db/bsdstats ]; then if [ -f remotemount/bsdstats.`hostname` ]; then cp remotemount/bsdstats.`hostname` /var/db/bsdstats else run 300.statistics cp /var/db/bsdstats remotemount/bsdstats.`hostname` fi fi Add something like that (real code at least) to the init/rc file used on the diskless station, to be run after all mounts are up? - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFc2uf4QvfyHIvDvMRAiexAJ4y/VmnZ89rxhIU2eOSXL4YQUvLeACgqdA2 07v4cbtbLmfSgAuO8ras+zo= =jk41 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The following numbers reflect the change in reporting numbers between October and November 2006. These include both those that reported *on* the 1st of the month, as well as those changes over the course of the month. Since the point of this is to be run monthly, out of periodic monthly, the 1st of the month is when all hosts should be 'renewing' their information. As such, we tend to be more focused on the 39% increase in recurring monthly reports OctNov % Chg DragonFly 13 11 -18% 137 18 -661% FreeBSD660 2085 68% 1976 2659 25% GNU/kFreeBSD 33 3-1000% 144 7-1957% MirBSD 0 1 100% 8 4 -100% NetBSD365142 -157% 1827276 -561% OpenBSD334 83 -302% 3858927 -316% PC-BSD 2 1 -100% 90 51 -76% Overall 1407 2326 39% 8040 3942 -103% The first row for each is the # that reported on the 1st of each month ... in theory, all hosts should be renewing their report on that date. The second row represents total # of hosts that have reported on that month. A complete comparison, including architecture and releases, can be found at: http://www.bsdstats.org/report.php?lastmonthos=operating_system where operating system is one of the above ... For those wishing to see more formal stats, or more detail, please check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Thank you to all that are currently participating ... and we look forward to seeing increases on subsequent months ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFc2l84QvfyHIvDvMRApy/AKC2WsBdKMRcLfHdDq2hbHemNzjlNgCfWl2g lnhrVvJejbLKmOKwbclkkbM= =jHFl -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
