Re: FF 2.0 hogging the cpu in FreeBSD 6.2-PRELEASE

2006-12-24 Thread Garrett Cooper

Christian Walther wrote:

On 23/12/06, Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]

Firefox is a pig on every platform. Plus, more sites are using
javascript for AJAX these days, pushing more and more load onto the
client.


I agree. It's painfull to see that you browse a website and it
consumes all your cpu cycles eventually. Since most of these scripts
are used to power adverts or some graphical stuff that really isn't
necessary, I use FF with the Adblock, NoScript, and
Flashblock-Extension.
Adblock filters known ads, together with Adblock Filter.G Updater
you get a decent list of ad placing sites.
NoScript is configured to block all JavaScripts by default, and if I
think that a website doesn't behave as I would expect (e.g. doesn't
react on URL- oder buttonpresses in forms), I temporarily allow
scripts for this site. Sites I visit regularly that require JavaScript
get general permission.
Flashblock teaches embedded Flash-Objects on demand-behaviour by
replacing them with a play button. The Animation is only started after
this button is being pressed.
This puts an end to high CPU load...
Strange. Firefox 2.0 doesn't appear to be much of a problem for me on my 
P4 2.4GHz machine. Then again I run NoScript and Adblock by default. 
Also, if you dig through the tabs in NoScript a bit, it has options to 
disable Flash stuff by default and then you can whitelist the Flash 
animation as well.


The only problem I have had with Firefox CPU-wise has been caused by 
annoying, poorly created blog sites (40+ some animated gifs in the 
background--ate up nearly all my available CPU resources).


Another thing, there were some known problems with Firefox 2.0.1 that 
were addressed with GTK filechoosers, if that's part of what you're doing.


-Garrett
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Re: FF 2.0 hogging the cpu in FreeBSD 6.2-PRELEASE

2006-12-24 Thread Garrett Cooper

Abdullah Al-Marrie wrote:

On 12/23/06, Christian Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 23/12/06, Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 Firefox is a pig on every platform. Plus, more sites are using
 javascript for AJAX these days, pushing more and more load onto the
 client.

I agree. It's painfull to see that you browse a website and it
consumes all your cpu cycles eventually. Since most of these scripts
are used to power adverts or some graphical stuff that really isn't
necessary, I use FF with the Adblock, NoScript, and
Flashblock-Extension.
Adblock filters known ads, together with Adblock Filter.G Updater
you get a decent list of ad placing sites.
NoScript is configured to block all JavaScripts by default, and if I
think that a website doesn't behave as I would expect (e.g. doesn't
react on URL- oder buttonpresses in forms), I temporarily allow
scripts for this site. Sites I visit regularly that require JavaScript
get general permission.
Flashblock teaches embedded Flash-Objects on demand-behaviour by
replacing them with a play button. The Animation is only started after
this button is being pressed.
This puts an end to high CPU load...



Thank you for the tips, when I posted this in the list I already have
Adblock installed, but I still FF acts like a hungry pig.

The question now, is FF-linux runs faster than native FreeBSD FF?

I highly doubt it. It's like saying Does another layer of complexity 
make something run better?.. most likely no.

-Garrett
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FF 2.0 hogging the cpu in FreeBSD 6.2-PRELEASE

2006-12-23 Thread Abdullah Al-Marrie

Hello,

I installed FF 2.0 from the ports.
I noticed that FF 2.0 uses alot of CPU power every time I open a new
page in the tabs, or refresh an opened page, it's not app startup
issue, beside I don't know if Linux has the same issue too.

I didn't notice this issue with Konqueror with KDE 3.5.5.

Calibrating TSC clock ... TSC clock: 1596012523 Hz
CPU: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-50 (1596.01-MHz 686-class CPU)
Origin = AuthenticAMD  Id = 0x40f82  Stepping = 2
Instruction TLB: 32 entries, fully associative
L1 data cache: 64 kbytes, 64 bytes/line, 1 lines/tag, 2-way associative
L1 instruction cache: 64 kbytes, 64 bytes/line, 1 lines/tag, 2-way associative
L2 internal cache: 256 kbytes, 64 bytes/line, 1 lines/tag, 8-way associative
real memory  = 1474887680 (1406 MB)

uname -a
FreeBSD  6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #0: Fri Dec 22 15:02:36
AST 2006 arabian@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARABIAN  i386

PID USERNAMETHR PRI NICE   SIZERES   STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
886 arabian 6  890  132M   111M CPU1   1   2:55
141.99% firefox-bin

Here is my make.conf

CPUTYPE=k8
RELEASETAG=RELENG_6


This isn't
Regards,

-Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri
Arab Portal
http://www.WeArab.Net/
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Re: FF 2.0 hogging the cpu in FreeBSD 6.2-PRELEASE

2006-12-23 Thread Abdullah Al-Marrie

On 12/23/06, Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 12/23/06, Abdullah Al-Marrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I installed FF 2.0 from the ports.
 I noticed that FF 2.0 uses alot of CPU power every time I open a new
 page in the tabs, or refresh an opened page, it's not app startup
 issue, beside I don't know if Linux has the same issue too.

Firefox is a pig on every platform. Plus, more sites are using
javascript for AJAX these days, pushing more and more load onto the
client.


How about Opera, does it have the same issue?



What are the specs of the machine?

Mike



AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-50 (1596.01-MHz 686-class
CPU) Dual CPU.
RAM: 1.5 GB DDR2 533 MHz.

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http://www.WeArab.Net/
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Re: FF 2.0 hogging the cpu in FreeBSD 6.2-PRELEASE

2006-12-23 Thread Michael P. Soulier

On 12/23/06, Abdullah Al-Marrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

I installed FF 2.0 from the ports.
I noticed that FF 2.0 uses alot of CPU power every time I open a new
page in the tabs, or refresh an opened page, it's not app startup
issue, beside I don't know if Linux has the same issue too.


Firefox is a pig on every platform. Plus, more sites are using
javascript for AJAX these days, pushing more and more load onto the
client.

What are the specs of the machine?

Mike
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Re: FF 2.0 hogging the cpu in FreeBSD 6.2-PRELEASE

2006-12-23 Thread Michael P. Soulier

On 12/23/06, Abdullah Al-Marrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How about Opera, does it have the same issue?


No idea, but using a lot of cpu during activity isn't necessarily a
bad thing. It's there to be used. The question is, is your system
unacceptably slow when using Firefox?


AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-50 (1596.01-MHz 686-class
CPU) Dual CPU.
RAM: 1.5 GB DDR2 533 MHz.


Certainly adequate.

Mike
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Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
--Albert Einstein
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Re: FF 2.0 hogging the cpu in FreeBSD 6.2-PRELEASE

2006-12-23 Thread Christian Walther

On 23/12/06, Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]

Firefox is a pig on every platform. Plus, more sites are using
javascript for AJAX these days, pushing more and more load onto the
client.


I agree. It's painfull to see that you browse a website and it
consumes all your cpu cycles eventually. Since most of these scripts
are used to power adverts or some graphical stuff that really isn't
necessary, I use FF with the Adblock, NoScript, and
Flashblock-Extension.
Adblock filters known ads, together with Adblock Filter.G Updater
you get a decent list of ad placing sites.
NoScript is configured to block all JavaScripts by default, and if I
think that a website doesn't behave as I would expect (e.g. doesn't
react on URL- oder buttonpresses in forms), I temporarily allow
scripts for this site. Sites I visit regularly that require JavaScript
get general permission.
Flashblock teaches embedded Flash-Objects on demand-behaviour by
replacing them with a play button. The Animation is only started after
this button is being pressed.
This puts an end to high CPU load...
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Re: FF 2.0 hogging the cpu in FreeBSD 6.2-PRELEASE

2006-12-23 Thread Abdullah Al-Marrie

On 12/23/06, Christian Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 23/12/06, Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 Firefox is a pig on every platform. Plus, more sites are using
 javascript for AJAX these days, pushing more and more load onto the
 client.

I agree. It's painfull to see that you browse a website and it
consumes all your cpu cycles eventually. Since most of these scripts
are used to power adverts or some graphical stuff that really isn't
necessary, I use FF with the Adblock, NoScript, and
Flashblock-Extension.
Adblock filters known ads, together with Adblock Filter.G Updater
you get a decent list of ad placing sites.
NoScript is configured to block all JavaScripts by default, and if I
think that a website doesn't behave as I would expect (e.g. doesn't
react on URL- oder buttonpresses in forms), I temporarily allow
scripts for this site. Sites I visit regularly that require JavaScript
get general permission.
Flashblock teaches embedded Flash-Objects on demand-behaviour by
replacing them with a play button. The Animation is only started after
this button is being pressed.
This puts an end to high CPU load...



Thank you for the tips, when I posted this in the list I already have
Adblock installed, but I still FF acts like a hungry pig.

The question now, is FF-linux runs faster than native FreeBSD FF?

--
Regards,

-Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri
Arab Portal
http://www.WeArab.Net/
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