Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-02-03 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, Nick Pavlica wrote: I was wondering if any progress has been made in determining the cause of the poor disk I/O performance illustrated by the testing in this thread? Now that 5.3 is labeled as the production stable version, and 4.x is labeled as legacy, improving the

Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-02-01 Thread Nick Pavlica
All, I was wondering if any progress has been made in determining the cause of the poor disk I/O performance illustrated by the testing in this thread? Now that 5.3 is labeled as the production stable version, and 4.x is labeled as legacy, improving the performance of the 5.4+ distributions is

Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-01-28 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Mike Tancsa wrote: I/O (reads, writes at fairly large multiples of the sector size -- 512k is a good number) and small I/O size (512 bytes is good). This will help identify the source along two dimmensions: are we looking at a basic storage I/O problem that's present

Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-01-27 Thread Nick Pavlica
The move to an MPSAFE VFS will help with that a lot, I should think. Do you know if this will find it's way to 5.x in the near future? Also, while on face value this may seem odd, could you try the following additional variables: - Layer the test UFS partition directly over ad0 instead

Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-01-27 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Nick Pavlica wrote: The move to an MPSAFE VFS will help with that a lot, I should think. Do you know if this will find it's way to 5.x in the near future? Hopefully not too quickly, it's fairly experimental. I know there's interest in getting it into 5.x however.

Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-01-27 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 08:14 PM 27/01/2005, Robert Watson wrote: My tests use the exact same disk layout, and hardware. However, I have had consistent results on all 4 boxes that I have tested on. I am redoing mine so that I boot from a different drive and just test on one large RAID5 partition so that the

Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-01-26 Thread Nick Pavlica
All, With the recent release of 4.11 I thought that I would give it a spin and com pair my results with my previous testing. I was blown away by the performance difference between 4.11 and 5.3. Iostat showed a difference of over 30Mb/s difference between the two. In fact, it kept up or out

Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-01-26 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 01:47 PM 26/01/2005, Nick Pavlica wrote: All, With the recent release of 4.11 I thought that I would give it a Yes, I found the same thing basically. My test box is a P4 3Ghz with 2G of RAM on a 3ware 8605 controller with 4 drives in RAID5. Virtually every test I did with iozone* showed

Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-01-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Mike Tancsa wrote: At 01:47 PM 26/01/2005, Nick Pavlica wrote: All, With the recent release of 4.11 I thought that I would give it a Yes, I found the same thing basically. My test box is a P4 3Ghz with 2G of RAM on a 3ware 8605 controller with 4 drives in RAID5.

Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-01-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Robert Watson wrote: While it's not for the feint of heart, it might be interesting to see how results compare in 6-CURRENT + debugging of various sorts (including malloc) turned off, and debug.mpsafevfs turned on. One possible issue with the twe/twa drivers is that

Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-01-25 Thread Jesper Louis Andersen
Quoting Nick Pavlica ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I would like to start addressing some of the feedback that I have been given. I started this discussion because I felt that it was important to share the information I discovered in my testing. I also want to reiterate my earlier statement that

Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-01-25 Thread Matthias Buelow
Petri Helenius wrote: Are you sure you aren't comparing filesystems with different mount options? Async comes to mind first. a) ext3 and xfs are logging filesystems, so the problem with asynchronous metadata updates possibly corrupting the filesystem on a crash doesn't arise. b) asynchronous

Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-01-25 Thread Petri Helenius
Matthias Buelow wrote: Petri Helenius wrote: Are you sure you aren't comparing filesystems with different mount options? Async comes to mind first. a) ext3 and xfs are logging filesystems, so the problem with asynchronous metadata updates possibly corrupting the filesystem on a crash doesn't

FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-01-24 Thread Nick Pavlica
All, I would like to start addressing some of the feedback that I have been given. I started this discussion because I felt that it was important to share the information I discovered in my testing. I also want to reiterate my earlier statement that this is not an X vs. X discussion, but an

Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-01-24 Thread Petri Helenius
Are you sure you aren't comparing filesystems with different mount options? Async comes to mind first. Pete Nick Pavlica wrote: All, I would like to start addressing some of the feedback that I have been given. I started this discussion because I felt that it was important to share the

Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-01-24 Thread Edward B. Dreger
PH Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:08:52 +0200 PH From: Petri Helenius PH To: Nick Pavlica PH Are you sure you aren't comparing filesystems with different mount PH options? Async comes to mind first. speculation He _did_ say as many default options as possible... does Linux still mount async by

Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-01-24 Thread Nick Pavlica
I didn't change any of the default mount options on either OS. FreeBSD: # cat /etc/fstab # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options DumpPass#