Re: FreeBSD on Mini-ITX has web page latency

[Lowell Gilbert]

Bob McIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Usability studies say that a person won't wait more than 4 seconds for a
 web page download.  FreeBSD using Konqueor or Lynx takes more than 10
 seconds.  This is puzzling since ftp transfers at 400kbs, pings of
 freebsd.org take 80ms, and top shows CPU is 93% idle.

I take it, then, that FreeBSD is the web client, not the server?  
Have you checked for whether the delays are being caused by name
service, before the HTTP session is even started?

 This is for a EPIA-CN13 mini-itx with .5gb memory.
 http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=400

 Via says it works with Windows and Linux. It worked well for me using Mepis
 Linux.

 Note the message log sees a VT6102 LAN but the board has a 6103. Perhaps
 that explains the problem. Otherwise, it must be a protocol issue.

A similarly identified interface works okay for me on my Via C3
board.  Admittedly, they are lousy chips, but you should't notice for
most purposes.
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Re: FreeBSD on Mini-ITX has web page latency

[bobmc]

Well, it seems that the driver and the hardware works so there must be
a problem in the generic part of the software.  There are plenty of tools
for networking analysis but I am not a networking adept. So I will
carefully repeat the install.  Thanks.  -Bob-

BTW, my other computer is a Biostar Ideq SFF with Via chipsets. FreeBSD
reports a 6102 ethernet but cannot map the interrupt. Instead it wants to
emulate ethernet on FireWire.  But that is for another day.  :-)

Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Bob McIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 FreeBSD using Konqueor or Lynx takes more than 10 seconds.  This is puzzling 
 since ftp transfers at 400kbs, pings of freebsd.org take 80ms, and top shows 
 CPU is 93% idle.
   

 I take it, then, that FreeBSD is the web client, not the server?  
 Have you checked for whether the delays are being caused by name
 service, before the HTTP session is even started?
   
 This is for a EPIA-CN13 mini-itx with .5gb memory.
 Note the message log sees a VT6102 LAN but the board has a 6103. Perhaps 
 that explains the problem. Otherwise, it must be a protocol issue.
 
 A similarly identified interface works okay for me on my Via C3
 board.  Admittedly, they are lousy chips, but you should't notice for
 most purposes.

   

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Re: FreeBSD on Mini-ITX has web page latency

[Lowell Gilbert]

Don't top-post, please.

bobmc [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Well, it seems that the driver and the hardware works so there must be
 a problem in the generic part of the software.  There are plenty of tools
 for networking analysis but I am not a networking adept. So I will
 carefully repeat the install.  Thanks.  -Bob-

In that case, definitely try 6.2...
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FreeBSD on Mini-ITX has web page latency

[Bob McIsaac]

Hi:

Usability studies say that a person won't wait more than 4 seconds for a
web page download.  FreeBSD using Konqueor or Lynx takes more than 10
seconds.  This is puzzling since ftp transfers at 400kbs, pings of
freebsd.org take 80ms, and top shows CPU is 93% idle.

This is for a EPIA-CN13 mini-itx with .5gb memory.
http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=400

Via says it works with Windows and Linux. It worked well for me using Mepis
Linux.

Note the message log sees a VT6102 LAN but the board has a 6103. Perhaps
that explains the problem. Otherwise, it must be a protocol issue.

Any suggestions would be welcome

regards,
-Bob-


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