On Sat, 24 Nov 2012, Matthias Apitz wrote:
El día Wednesday, November 21, 2012 a las 09:19:24PM -0700, Warren Block
escribió:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Warren Block wrote:
The fdisk/bsdlabel section of my disk setup article has been rewritten
to use gpart. Feedback welcome.
El día Wednesday, November 21, 2012 a las 09:19:24PM -0700, Warren Block
escribió:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Warren Block wrote:
The fdisk/bsdlabel section of my disk setup article has been rewritten
to use gpart. Feedback welcome.
http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html
Thank you very much for your work on this. I have found this
conversation and your article very informative.
I've already installed W7 on my SSD but I let the installation program
create the windows (MBR) partition.
I'm going to install FreeBSD 9.1 as soon as it is ready so I want to ask
On 22/11/2012 14:49, Warren Block wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Warren Block wrote:
Got a chance to set up a scratch drive and check this. Turns out
I left out the step of creating a slice (MBR partition) to hold
the FreeBSD partitions. Also, GPT labels cannot be used in an
MBR. Fixed below.
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Shane Ambler wrote:
On 22/11/2012 14:49, Warren Block wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Warren Block wrote:
Got a chance to set up a scratch drive and check this. Turns out
I left out the step of creating a slice (MBR partition) to hold
the FreeBSD partitions. Also, GPT
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote:
2012/11/20 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote:
Just one small problem. Here I got this:
# gpart create -s bsd ada2s1
gpart: geom 'ada2s1': File exists
# gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s1
gpart: index '1': No
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Warren Block wrote:
Got a chance to set up a scratch drive and check this. Turns out I
left out the step of creating a slice (MBR partition) to hold the
FreeBSD partitions. Also, GPT labels cannot be used in an MBR.
Fixed below. I will probably add this to my disk
2012/11/18 Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz:
On 18/11/2012 06:49, Snow Mountains wrote:
Could you recommend a reliable document on how to do a correct block
alignment for new FreeBSD 9 install? FreeBSD Handbook doesn't
mention this at all, although I can find a lot of (not quite
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote:
2012/11/18 Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz:
On 18/11/2012 06:49, Snow Mountains wrote:
Could you recommend a reliable document on how to do a correct block
alignment for new FreeBSD 9 install? FreeBSD Handbook doesn't
mention this at all,
2012/11/19 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote:
2012/11/18 Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz:
On 18/11/2012 06:49, Snow Mountains wrote:
Could you recommend a reliable document on how to do a correct block
alignment for new FreeBSD 9 install? FreeBSD
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote:
Just one small problem. Here I got this:
# gpart create -s bsd ada2s1
gpart: geom 'ada2s1': File exists
# gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s1
gpart: index '1': No such file or directory
Expected? Anyway, is it any way to but FreeBSD on something like s2?
2012/11/20 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote:
Just one small problem. Here I got this:
# gpart create -s bsd ada2s1
gpart: geom 'ada2s1': File exists
# gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s1
gpart: index '1': No such file or directory
Expected? Anyway,
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote:
2012/11/20 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Snow Mountains wrote:
Just one small problem. Here I got this:
# gpart create -s bsd ada2s1
gpart: geom 'ada2s1': File exists
# gpart set -a active -i 1 ada2s1
gpart: index '1': No
2012/11/20 Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com:
I know I've seen that, but can't recall what causes it. You can try
retasting before creating the BSD partitions:
# true /dev/ada2
# gpart create -s bsd ada2s2
Sorry, no difference:
# gpart show ada2
= 63 468862065 ada2 MBR (223G)
Hello,
I'm about to upgrade hardware on my desktop and to install FreeBSD 9
on it. I have ASUS P5KPL-C and want to buy a SSD or SATA-III 6Gb/s
drive for it.
Please advise me:
* does it make sense to buy SSD drive for a mb that supports 4x SATA
3Gb/s (of couse, expecting a possible future mb
On 17 November 2012 12:26, Snow Mountains snow.mountain...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I'm about to upgrade hardware on my desktop and to install FreeBSD 9
on it. I have ASUS P5KPL-C and want to buy a SSD or SATA-III 6Gb/s
drive for it.
Please advise me:
* does it make sense to buy SSD drive
2012/11/17 ill...@gmail.com ill...@gmail.com:
On 17 November 2012 12:26, Snow Mountains snow.mountain...@gmail.com wrote:
* How will FreeBSD 9 behave in such situations? Any special tweaking needed?
I wouldn't expect any special behaviour, though you need to take care
with block alignment.
On Jul 28, 2012 11:42 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
wrote:
The read-cache idea is very sound, mainly because by using it this way
Seagate would not have to create a special set of
instructions for installing and using the HDD.
I don't think that this drive cache is smart
Good day. I have recently bought a Seagate Momentus XT for my laptop.
The specs for the drive are :
RPM : 7200
Buffer : 32 MB
HDD Memory : 750 GB
SSD Memory : 8 GB
I wish to install FreeBSD on it, but I wanted to ask this beforehand :
Would it would be possible to install it on the 8 GB SSD
Hi,
On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 12:44:35 +0300
Vladimir Videscu vladimir.vide...@gmail.com wrote:
Good day. I have recently bought a Seagate Momentus XT for my laptop.
The specs for the drive are :
RPM : 7200
Buffer : 32 MB
HDD Memory : 750 GB
SSD Memory : 8 GB
I wish to install FreeBSD
On 28 Jul 2012, at 11:58, Erich Dollansky erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 12:44:35 +0300
Vladimir Videscu vladimir.vide...@gmail.com wrote:
Good day. I have recently bought a Seagate Momentus XT for my laptop.
The specs for the drive are :
RPM : 7200
)
appear.
If I'm wrong and it should really be two units in one, your
idea would work. Install FreeBSD to the SSD part and apply the
known optimizations. Make use of the HDD part for OS components
that need much writes to prevent wearing the SSD.
--
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD
HDD Memory : 750 GB
SSD Memory : 8 GB
I wish to install FreeBSD on it, but I wanted to ask this beforehand :
Would it would be possible to install it on the 8 GB SSD sector ?
no idea how seagate momentus XT work.
AFAIK it tries to automatically move often used things to flash. so
install
by the disk unit's firmware itself. (I'm not even sure
it works without software drivers, judging by the funny
little pictures...)
yes it works without any drivers other than standard SATA driver.
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2012/7/28 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl:
HDD Memory : 750 GB
SSD Memory : 8 GB
I wish to install FreeBSD on it, but I wanted to ask this beforehand :
Would it would be possible to install it on the 8 GB SSD sector ?
no idea how seagate momentus XT work.
AFAIK it tries
Hello again everyone.
First of all, I want to address a thank you for your responses. They have
been unexpectedly numerous and have clarified some aspects of my inquiries.
The read-cache idea is very sound, mainly because by using it this way
Seagate would not have to create a special set of
On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:19:25 +0300, Vladimir Videscu wrote:
Seeing as the HDD only has a SATA connector, this would mean that the SSD
part already has a memory control device that regulates access to that
sector, whether it is a plain read-cache or not. This would imply that
FreeBSD could
You're going to install FreeBSD as on any other hard disk. You
will then (hopefully) see a speed gain when in use. :-)
make sure noatime option is used in /etc/fstab
i use it everywhere, but with SSD cached disks it may be even more
important. No idea what is that drive caching strategy, but
The read-cache idea is very sound, mainly because by using it this way Seagate
would not have to create a special set of
instructions for installing and using the HDD.
I don't think that this drive cache is smart enough to really cache needed
things and not flush that cache with useless data
On 14 February 2011 23:55, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 03:32:30PM -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote:
From what I understand (a quick review of wikipedia helps :), modern
flash cards are now typically rated for 100K writes, include ECC bits
to actually correct or at
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 22:10:47 -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
But for users who do not wish to learn anything ...
the Microsoft Way fits the bill.
^
Of course. It's his company. But does it fit anyone
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
Agreed. I posted my short experience of using an SSD as a workstation
drive and I'd be interested in hearing the experience of any other
users. Problems? Praise? Let's hear it.
While not quite a workstation application, in
Hi--
On Feb 14, 2011, at 3:17 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:
I would be curious to hear stories from people who actually *have* run
into SSD failures related to write limitations. I've heard a lot of
speculation but no actual anecdotes. I'm sure they're out there; but
I also know people are more
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 03:32:30PM -0800, Chuck Swiger wrote:
From what I understand (a quick review of wikipedia helps :), modern
flash cards are now typically rated for 100K writes, include ECC bits
to actually correct or at least detect errors and try to remap bad
blocks to unused blocks,
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:12:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
I fail to understand why manufacturers would let people install SSDs on
machines when their life is so much in question.
I fail to see why a
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:53:18AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
You'd surely be happier with a better OS on it, though -- right?
Chad, on the Desktop, I'd rather run the ratware from Redmond than try
FreeBSD!
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 02:23:53 -0700
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com articulated:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:53:18AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com
wrote:
You'd surely be happier with a better OS on it, though -- right?
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
has spewed for over 10 years, OpenOffice is nothing more than a poor
clone of Office 97. The newly released libreoffice might be usable
someday; however, it is now only in
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
Bloat is a purely subjective term.
It's not.
What one user considers bloat
could very well be a requirement for another use. For example, while
you might consider it bloat to have drivers for modern wireless N
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote:
For some, Office is unusable due to the new Ribbon interface and
libreoffice is the usable office suite due to its familiar menus.
Users who have already used PCs are familiar with the menu
technique of functionality
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +
Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk articulated:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
has spewed for over 10 years, OpenOffice is nothing more than a poor
clone of Office 97.
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:58:05 -0500, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +
Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk articulated:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
has
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:58:05 -0500
Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
New, as in four years old? That is one of the worst straw man
arguments I have heard in a while. In any case, In 2008
OpenOffice.org started the project Renaissance to improve the user
interface of OpenOffice. So far
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 07:38:01AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
Bloat is a purely subjective term. What one user considers bloat
could very well be a requirement for another use. For example, while
you might consider it bloat to have drivers for modern wireless N
protocol cards, many other users have
So... how about those solid state drives... yup.
-Modulok-
On 2/13/11, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 07:38:01AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
Bloat is a purely subjective term. What one user considers bloat
could very well be a requirement for another use. For example,
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 08:58:05AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +
Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk articulated:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
Despite all of the rubbish the FOSS community
has spewed for over 10
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 08:58:05AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:10:51 +
Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk articulated:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:38:01 -0500
Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:42:54 -0700
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
There's no use pretending MS Windows never has issues with the
efficacy of its autoconfiguration. Most of us have used that OS
quite a lot, and know that problems arise -- and that, unlike with
open source OSes, it's
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:05:51PM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is
about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like to hear more about from
people with first-hand experience in running such setup.
- Max
Agreed. I posted my short
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:05:51PM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is
about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like to hear more about from
people with
On 13.02.2011 19:50, Adam Vande More wrote:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:05:51PM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is
about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like
Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 13 February 2011:
OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice offer functionality MS Office does not,
just as MS Office offers functionality they do not. Different people
have different needs, and those office suites serve slightly different
needs. On the other hand,
Quoth Bruce Cran on Sunday, 13 February 2011:
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:42:54 -0700
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
There's no use pretending MS Windows never has issues with the
efficacy of its autoconfiguration. Most of us have used that OS
quite a lot, and know that problems
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:05:51PM -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
Can you guys please take Microsoft bashing elsewhere? This thread is
about FreeBSD and SSDs - a topic I'd like to hear more about from
people with first-hand experience in running such setup.
Perhaps responding to the FreeBSD
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:29:15AM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
But for users who do not wish to learn anything and who want to use
their computer the same way they use their DVD player or their electric
toothbrush, the Microsoft Way fits the bill.
I think you're being too kind to the
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:10:26AM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
Hey, I just found out that libreoffice can open all those old .WRI files
that MS Office no longer recognizes! Thanks for the tip!
My pleasure.
I bet it doesn't have the old Windows Write memory leak, either -- which,
by the way,
Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
But for users who do not wish to learn anything ...
the Microsoft Way fits the bill.
^
Of course. It's his company. But does it fit anyone else?
;-)
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On 11 Feb 2011 at 13:33, Adam Vande More wrote:
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com
wrote:
Ignoring the TRIM issue for a moment . . .
You're probably best off saving SSD storage for cases where you have
lots of reads and little to no write activity,
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Dave d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk wrote:
Define a *lot*. If you look up the spec's on the common (currently)
available SSD systems, it's only in the 10's of 1000's writes. Pittiful
compared to magnetic media.
Chances are on many setups, by the time you've
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Dave d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk wrote:
Define a *lot*. If you look up the spec's on the common (currently)
available SSD systems, it's only in the 10's of 1000's writes. Pittiful
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:12:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Dave d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk wrote:
Define a *lot*. If you look up the spec's on the common (currently)
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:12:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Dave d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:54:19 +, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:12:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
Should I stop and buy a SATA disk?:)
No you shouldn't but you should run FreeBSD on it ;)
What else should one run?! ;-)
All I know is that
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 07:12:08PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
I fail to understand why manufacturers would let people install SSDs on
machines when their life is so much in question.
I fail to see why a manufacturer would *not* want your hardware to wear
out faster, since that would
Hi,
Is anyone using SSD drives on freeBSD server systems?
I'm attracted by the performance increases i've seen on both my desktops
and laptops (quite amazing and easy upgrade if you've not tried)..
I see from here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM#Operating_system_and_SSD_support
Nothing to do oh, freebsd-questions stay in bat!
2011/02/11 09:40:37 + Paul Macdonald p...@ifdnrg.com = To FreeBSD
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PM I'd be interested to here peoples opinions on best uses for SSD, general
PM purpose applications such as databases , webservers etc will benefit
PM
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 09:40:37AM +, Paul Macdonald wrote:
I'd be interested to here peoples opinions on best uses for SSD, general
purpose applications such as databases , webservers etc will benefit
obviously,
but i'm also curious as to disk intensive applications such as
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote:
Ignoring the TRIM issue for a moment . . .
You're probably best off saving SSD storage for cases where you have lots
of reads and little to no write activity, unless you enjoy buying new
SSDs a lot. Actually, let's not
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