Re: Getting vim to work correctly.

2007-09-28 Thread Jay Chandler

Eric Schuele wrote:

On 09/27/2007 21:01, Jay Chandler wrote:

Howdy.

Sorry to keep hitting the list with questions today, but does anyone
know how to get the home, delete, end, page up, etc. keys working
correctly in vim?

It works in Linux, drives me nuts in FreeBSD...


They work perfectly fine here.  How is it you expect those keys to
behave?  Define working correctly.

When in insert mode, and pagedown is pressed, the letter the cursor is 
over is capitalized, and the editor is removed from insert mode, as an 
example.


PageUp capitalizes the letter next to it, and again removes me from 
insert mode.


Home randomly capitalizes letters and shifts the cursor to the next letter.

Insert decapitalizes the letter the cursor is over.

Weird behavior like this...

I was mistaken in that this is in vim-- this is in the natural version 
of vi that ships with the base OS.


This is happening from PuTTY in default setting mode on a Windows box-- 
my MacBook is relatively better behaved.



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Re: Getting vim to work correctly.

2007-09-28 Thread Pollywog
On Friday 28 September 2007 06:05:49 Jay Chandler wrote:
 Eric Schuele wrote:
  On 09/27/2007 21:01, Jay Chandler wrote:
  Howdy.
 
  Sorry to keep hitting the list with questions today, but does anyone
  know how to get the home, delete, end, page up, etc. keys working
  correctly in vim?
 
  It works in Linux, drives me nuts in FreeBSD...
 
  They work perfectly fine here.  How is it you expect those keys to
  behave?  Define working correctly.

 When in insert mode, and pagedown is pressed, the letter the cursor is
 over is capitalized, and the editor is removed from insert mode, as an
 example.

 PageUp capitalizes the letter next to it, and again removes me from
 insert mode.

 Home randomly capitalizes letters and shifts the cursor to the next letter.

 Insert decapitalizes the letter the cursor is over.

 Weird behavior like this...

 I was mistaken in that this is in vim-- this is in the natural version
 of vi that ships with the base OS.

 This is happening from PuTTY in default setting mode on a Windows box--
 my MacBook is relatively better behaved.

If you also run Linux, you can copy your ~/.vimrc or the systemwide one to 
your FreeBSD as ~/.vimrc and that should fix the problem.  Also export your 
editor as vim in your ~/.bashrc.  In addition, I make an alias so that when I 
use 'vi' as a command, I get 'vim' and not what FreeBSD uses as vi by 
default.  I had the same problems that you report.


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Re: Getting vim to work correctly.

2007-09-28 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-09-28 13:45, Nikos Vassiliadis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 28 September 2007 11:56, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
On 2007-09-27 23:05, Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Eric Schuele wrote:
 On 09/27/2007 21:01, Jay Chandler wrote:
 Howdy.
 Sorry to keep hitting the list with questions today, but does anyone
 know how to get the home, delete, end, page up, etc. keys working
 correctly in vim?

 It works in Linux, drives me nuts in FreeBSD...

 They work perfectly fine here.  How is it you expect those keys to
 behave?  Define working correctly.

 When in insert mode, and pagedown is pressed, the letter the cursor is
 over is capitalized, and the editor is removed from insert mode, as an
 example.

 PageUp capitalizes the letter next to it, and again removes me from
 insert mode.

 Home randomly capitalizes letters and shifts the cursor to the next
 letter.

 Insert decapitalizes the letter the cursor is over.

 Weird behavior like this...

 Nothing weird, same here with every terminal I have installed(xterm,
 Eterm  konsole). You should instal Vim if you want the old behaviour.

Indeed.  After Nikos' post I reread the original.  Jay, what you are
describing is:

When in insert mode, and pagedown is pressed, the letter the
cursor is over is capitalized, and the editor is removed from
insert mode, as an example.

This is expected behavior if you are using /usr/bin/vi.

 Keep in mind that nvi is a different program.  Why don't you
 install Vim?

Indeed, if vim's behavior is desired, then it may be a good idea to
install vim.  I usually keep around an installation of editors/vim-lite
for those rare occassions that I have managed to break my local Emacs
installation beyond repair :-)

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Re: Getting vim to work correctly.

2007-09-28 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-09-27 23:05, Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Eric Schuele wrote:
 On 09/27/2007 21:01, Jay Chandler wrote:
 Howdy.
 Sorry to keep hitting the list with questions today, but does anyone
 know how to get the home, delete, end, page up, etc. keys working
 correctly in vim?
 
 It works in Linux, drives me nuts in FreeBSD...

 They work perfectly fine here.  How is it you expect those keys to
 behave?  Define working correctly.

 When in insert mode, and pagedown is pressed, the letter the cursor is
 over is capitalized, and the editor is removed from insert mode, as an
 example.
 
 PageUp capitalizes the letter next to it, and again removes me from
 insert mode.
 
 Home randomly capitalizes letters and shifts the cursor to the next
 letter.
 
 Insert decapitalizes the letter the cursor is over.
 
 Weird behavior like this...
 
 I was mistaken in that this is in vim-- this is in the natural version
 of vi that ships with the base OS.
 
 This is happening from PuTTY in default setting mode on a Windows
 box-- my MacBook is relatively better behaved.

This is usually a configuration error related to the $TERM setup of the
client, so what's your terminal set to in the PuTTY setup of Windows?

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Re: Getting vim to work correctly.

2007-09-28 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 01:45:13PM +0300, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote:
 
 Keep in mind that nvi is a different program. Why don't you
 install Vim?

That's my immediate recommendation, too.  Another recommendation I might
make is to use vi the way it was intended: keep your fingers on home row,
and when you want to do something like page up or page down, use the
command mode keys that correspond with the desired action.

For instance, ^B will page up, and typing a number first will cause it to
page up that many times.  ^F does the same thing, but pages down instead.
^U and ^D move up and down, respectively, a number of lines determined by
the editor's scroll option (usually half a visible page in Vim,
measured in screen lines rather than file lines as it would be measured
in vi).

I, personally, like Vim.  It's what I use.  I also try to use it the way
vi is best used, because the benefits apply just as much to Vim.
Specifically, except when actually entering entirely new text, I stay in
command mode.  Editing and moving around in a document is much, much
faster for me when I can do it all from the home row of the keyboard.

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Re: Getting vim to work correctly.

2007-09-28 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On Friday 28 September 2007 11:56, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On 2007-09-27 23:05, Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Eric Schuele wrote:
  On 09/27/2007 21:01, Jay Chandler wrote:
  Howdy.
  Sorry to keep hitting the list with questions today, but does anyone
  know how to get the home, delete, end, page up, etc. keys working
  correctly in vim?
 
  It works in Linux, drives me nuts in FreeBSD...
 
  They work perfectly fine here.  How is it you expect those keys to
  behave?  Define working correctly.
 
  When in insert mode, and pagedown is pressed, the letter the cursor is
  over is capitalized, and the editor is removed from insert mode, as an
  example.
 
  PageUp capitalizes the letter next to it, and again removes me from
  insert mode.
 
  Home randomly capitalizes letters and shifts the cursor to the next
  letter.
 
  Insert decapitalizes the letter the cursor is over.
 
  Weird behavior like this...
 

Nothing weird, same here with every terminal I have installed(xterm,
Eterm  konsole). You should instal Vim if you want the old behaviour.

  I was mistaken in that this is in vim-- this is in the natural version
  of vi that ships with the base OS.
 
  This is happening from PuTTY in default setting mode on a Windows
  box-- my MacBook is relatively better behaved.

 This is usually a configuration error related to the $TERM setup of the
 client, so what's your terminal set to in the PuTTY setup of Windows?

Keep in mind that nvi is a different program. Why don't you
install Vim?

Actually, the only consistent behaviour is, that vi clones have
inconsistencies among them :)
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Getting vim to work correctly.

2007-09-27 Thread Jay Chandler

Howdy.

Sorry to keep hitting the list with questions today, but does anyone 
know how to get the home, delete, end, page up, etc. keys working 
correctly in vim?


It works in Linux, drives me nuts in FreeBSD...
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Re: Getting vim to work correctly.

2007-09-27 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Jay Chandler wrote:

Howdy.

Sorry to keep hitting the list with questions today, but does anyone 
know how to get the home, delete, end, page up, etc. keys working 
correctly in vim?


It works in Linux, drives me nuts in FreeBSD...
FreeBSD by default uses nvi (new vi editor its own light version of vim) 
I would try to use that before I waist time with vim. It is included in 
your base distribution no need to compile. The commands are standard vi 
commands.


For light editing you are probably better of to use ee (easy edit) the 
simplest FreeBSD specific editor included in distribution.


This is not to say that vim doesn't work. You have to compile from ports 
and since I do  not use vim I am not probably good  person to answer 
your  question.

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Re: Getting vim to work correctly.

2007-09-27 Thread Eric Schuele
On 09/27/2007 21:01, Jay Chandler wrote:
 Howdy.
 
 Sorry to keep hitting the list with questions today, but does anyone
 know how to get the home, delete, end, page up, etc. keys working
 correctly in vim?
 
 It works in Linux, drives me nuts in FreeBSD...

They work perfectly fine here.  How is it you expect those keys to
behave?  Define working correctly.

-- 
Regards,
Eric




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