Re: Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5?
I swear I remember reading something on the FreeBSD site saying that you shouldn't just upgrade from 4.x to 5.0, because it's still kind of in the beta stage and some apps might not work properly. Especially on a production server. The suggested way to upgrade to 5.0, was to backup everything on the current machine and install 5.0 from scatch then load from backups. I could be wrong, so find out for sure or just try it, but make sure you backup. - Original Message - From: Asenchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Johannes Angeldorff [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:23 PM Subject: RE: Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5? Johannes, My interpretation of your email is that you need to look into CVSup. Read this link: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html And when it comes to making the make.conf file, read this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html These will help you upgrade your entire os without much hassle. You could also Google cvsup and see what you find there... Hope this helps, Curt Micol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Johannes Angeldorff Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5? Dear FreeBSD:ers, I am happy to use FreeBSD for web, mail and applications serving. But when I come to the question about how to upgrade to a newer FreeBSD version, I really could need your expertise! We have two FreeBSD 4.5 boxes. Both boxes have been installed with FreeBSD 4.5 from CD, and then tweaked with reconfigured kernels and a few applications installed, mainly qmail (replacing sendmail), mod-php, mysql, pico and a few more. Both boxes have around 25 users each. Both boxes have tweaked settings in /etc/rc.conf and some other /etc/-files. My question is, if anyone can give a hint on how to upgrade safely from FreeBSD 4.5 to FreeBSD 5.0...? If we download FreeBSD 5.0 and install it on our FreeBSD 4.5 boxes, what will we have to do? Is there risk that all settings, contents and installed applications will be erased? Very thankful for all help on this matter...! -- Regards, Smartnet Sverige AB Johannes Angeldorff To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5?
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Johannes Angeldorff wrote: Dear FreeBSD:ers, I am happy to use FreeBSD for web, mail and applications serving. But when I come to the question about how to upgrade to a newer FreeBSD version, I really could need your expertise! I think this is what you would call a production machine. You shouldn't experiment with the so called Technology Release 5.0 then, but upgrade to 4.7 . The simpliest way to do this, is to download the iso-image, boot it and follow the upgrade instructions in the menu. Regards, Uli. We have two FreeBSD 4.5 boxes. Both boxes have been installed with FreeBSD 4.5 from CD, and then tweaked with reconfigured kernels and a few applications installed, mainly qmail (replacing sendmail), mod-php, mysql, pico and a few more. Both boxes have around 25 users each. Both boxes have tweaked settings in /etc/rc.conf and some other /etc/-files. My question is, if anyone can give a hint on how to upgrade safely from FreeBSD 4.5 to FreeBSD 5.0...? If we download FreeBSD 5.0 and install it on our FreeBSD 4.5 boxes, what will we have to do? Is there risk that all settings, contents and installed applications will be erased? Very thankful for all help on this matter...! -- Regards, Smartnet Sverige AB Johannes Angeldorff To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message *---* *Peter Ulrich Kruppa* * - Wuppertal - * * Germany * *---* To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5
Dear FreeBSD:ers, I am happy to use FreeBSD for web, mail and applications serving. But when I come to the question about how to upgrade to a newer FreeBSD version, I really could need your expertise! We have two FreeBSD 4.5 boxes. Both boxes have been installed with FreeBSD 4.5 from CD, and then tweaked with reconfigured kernels and a few applications installed, mainly qmail (replacing sendmail), mod-php, mysql, pico and a few more. Both boxes have around 25 users each. Both boxes have tweaked settings in /etc/rc.conf and some other /etc/-files. My question is, if anyone can give a hint on how to upgrade safely from FreeBSD 4.5 to FreeBSD 5.0...? If we download FreeBSD 5.0 and install it on our FreeBSD 4.5 boxes, what will we have to do? Is there risk that all settings, contents and installed applications will be erased? Very thankful for all help on this matter...! -- Med vänlig hälsning Smartnet Sverige AB Johannes Angeldorff To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 03:20:32AM +0100, Johannes Angeldorff wrote: Dear FreeBSD:ers, I am happy to use FreeBSD for web, mail and applications serving. But when I come to the question about how to upgrade to a newer FreeBSD version, I really could need your expertise! We have two FreeBSD 4.5 boxes. Both boxes have been installed with FreeBSD 4.5 from CD, and then tweaked with reconfigured kernels and a few applications installed, mainly qmail (replacing sendmail), mod-php, mysql, pico and a few more. Both boxes have around 25 users each. Both boxes have tweaked settings in /etc/rc.conf and some other /etc/-files. My question is, if anyone can give a hint on how to upgrade safely from FreeBSD 4.5 to FreeBSD 5.0...? If we download FreeBSD 5.0 and install it on our FreeBSD 4.5 boxes, what will we have to do? Is there risk that all settings, contents and installed applications will be erased? Very thankful for all help on this matter...! Do I understand from your mail that you use the machines for business purposes? If so, I would really think twice before upgrading to 5.0. It is good, but not yet as stable as the more mature 4.x branch. If you want to upgrade, then go as far as 4.7, and no further yet. You will find good instructions on how to do this at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html Following these instructions will ensure you have few problems, and all your app configs will be safe. But still, take a backup. To upgrade to 4.7-STABLE, use the CVS tag RELENG_4. To follow the 4.7 security branch, use the tag RELENG_4_7. If, however, your machines are not critical, then by all means try 5.0, but be prepared for teething troubles. See the Early Adopter's Guide at http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.0R/early-adopter.html for more details of what to look out for. I have never tried an upgrade from 4.x to 5, so can't comment on how easy it is (I would think, though, it would be fairly straightforward). Your application configs _should_ be safe, but take a backup. Take a backup, sing it with me, take a backup! I would probably go for a comletely fresh install, though, as there are some fairly fundamental architectural changes between 4.x and 5.0. A new install (i.e. reworking your partition scheme, doing newfs, etc) will ensure there is no old stuff lying around to get in the way and confuse things. Dan -- Daniel Bye PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: 3D73 AF47 D448 C5CA 88B4 0DCF 849C 1C33 3C48 2CDC _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5?
Dear FreeBSD:ers, I am happy to use FreeBSD for web, mail and applications serving. But when I come to the question about how to upgrade to a newer FreeBSD version, I really could need your expertise! We have two FreeBSD 4.5 boxes. Both boxes have been installed with FreeBSD 4.5 from CD, and then tweaked with reconfigured kernels and a few applications installed, mainly qmail (replacing sendmail), mod-php, mysql, pico and a few more. Both boxes have around 25 users each. Both boxes have tweaked settings in /etc/rc.conf and some other /etc/-files. My question is, if anyone can give a hint on how to upgrade safely from FreeBSD 4.5 to FreeBSD 5.0...? If we download FreeBSD 5.0 and install it on our FreeBSD 4.5 boxes, what will we have to do? Is there risk that all settings, contents and installed applications will be erased? Very thankful for all help on this matter...! -- Regards, Smartnet Sverige AB Johannes Angeldorff To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5?
Dear FreeBSD:ers, I am happy to use FreeBSD for web, mail and applications serving. But when I come to the question about how to upgrade to a newer FreeBSD version, I really could need your expertise! We have two FreeBSD 4.5 boxes. Both boxes have been installed with FreeBSD 4.5 from CD, and then tweaked with reconfigured kernels and a few applications installed, mainly qmail (replacing sendmail), mod-php, mysql, pico and a few more. Both boxes have around 25 users each. Both boxes have tweaked settings in /etc/rc.conf and some other /etc/-files. My question is, if anyone can give a hint on how to upgrade safely from FreeBSD 4.5 to FreeBSD 5.0...? If we download FreeBSD 5.0 and install it on our FreeBSD 4.5 boxes, what will we have to do? Is there risk that all settings, contents and installed applications will be erased? Very thankful for all help on this matter...! -- Regards, Smartnet Sverige AB Johannes Angeldorff To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5?
Dear FreeBSD:ers, I am happy to use FreeBSD for web, mail and applications serving. But when I come to the question about how to upgrade to a newer FreeBSD version, I really could need your expertise! We have two FreeBSD 4.5 boxes. Both boxes have been installed with FreeBSD 4.5 from CD, and then tweaked with reconfigured kernels and a few applications installed, mainly qmail (replacing sendmail), mod-php, mysql, pico and a few more. Both boxes have around 25 users each. Both boxes have tweaked settings in /etc/rc.conf and some other /etc/-files. My question is, if anyone can give a hint on how to upgrade safely from FreeBSD 4.5 to FreeBSD 5.0...? If we download FreeBSD 5.0 and install it on our FreeBSD 4.5 boxes, what will we have to do? Is there risk that all settings, contents and installed applications will be erased? Very thankful for all help on this matter...! -- Regards, Smartnet Sverige AB Johannes Angeldorff To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Johannes Angeldorff wrote: We have two FreeBSD 4.5 boxes. Both boxes have been installed with FreeBSD 4.5 from CD, and then tweaked with reconfigured kernels and a few applications installed, mainly qmail (replacing sendmail), mod-php, mysql, pico and a few more. Both boxes have around 25 users each. Both boxes have tweaked settings in /etc/rc.conf and some other /etc/-files. My question is, if anyone can give a hint on how to upgrade safely from FreeBSD 4.5 to FreeBSD 5.0...? You can upgrade them, but it won't be safe. 5.0 is described on www.freebsd.org as being a New Technology release - in other words, not ready for the kind of production use you want to put it to. I myself use 4.5 for my two most important machines. But what they have on them now is 4.5-RELEASE-p24, because I've updated them using cvsup, and I specified RELENG_4_5 as the CVS branch to use. This means there are only minimal configuration changes to be applied with mergemaster after updating, and the OS basically stays where it is, while still getting all the right security updates for the base system. If we download FreeBSD 5.0 and install it on our FreeBSD 4.5 boxes, what will we have to do? Is there risk that all settings, contents and installed applications will be erased? Read the handbook (www.freebsd.org/handbook/) very carefully in the areas of The Cutting Edge. Remember that 5.0 is branched from - -CURRENT, not -STABLE. Then decide to cvsup to RELENG_4_5 unless there is an important feature you really need in later 4.x releases. Make sure you practise any updates first on a sacrificial box first too. I'm reckoning on carrying on with 4.x releases for at least another year, maybe 18 months for ultra-production stuff. We'll see. My experience of the switch in Linux land between their 2.2 and 2.4 kernels, (my original reason for switching to FreeBSD, BTW) makes me very cautious of these kind of major changes. - -- W. Palfreman. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+QcyclEOQDkvPqLYRAm4ZAKCCZGaKUAGxZfodY5eEp6BloT1jSQCeKPCv +Nrrx3KZ+8mSn9nWUPzs450= =jgPv -END PGP SIGNATURE- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5?
Johannes, My interpretation of your email is that you need to look into CVSup. Read this link: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html And when it comes to making the make.conf file, read this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html These will help you upgrade your entire os without much hassle. You could also Google cvsup and see what you find there... Hope this helps, Curt Micol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Johannes Angeldorff Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5? Dear FreeBSD:ers, I am happy to use FreeBSD for web, mail and applications serving. But when I come to the question about how to upgrade to a newer FreeBSD version, I really could need your expertise! We have two FreeBSD 4.5 boxes. Both boxes have been installed with FreeBSD 4.5 from CD, and then tweaked with reconfigured kernels and a few applications installed, mainly qmail (replacing sendmail), mod-php, mysql, pico and a few more. Both boxes have around 25 users each. Both boxes have tweaked settings in /etc/rc.conf and some other /etc/-files. My question is, if anyone can give a hint on how to upgrade safely from FreeBSD 4.5 to FreeBSD 5.0...? If we download FreeBSD 5.0 and install it on our FreeBSD 4.5 boxes, what will we have to do? Is there risk that all settings, contents and installed applications will be erased? Very thankful for all help on this matter...! -- Regards, Smartnet Sverige AB Johannes Angeldorff To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5?
Sorry, when it comes to making your supfile...my apologies. Curt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Asenchi Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:24 AM To: Johannes Angeldorff; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5? Johannes, My interpretation of your email is that you need to look into CVSup. Read this link: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html And when it comes to making the make.conf file, read this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html These will help you upgrade your entire os without much hassle. You could also Google cvsup and see what you find there... Hope this helps, Curt Micol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Johannes Angeldorff Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Good way of upgrading from FreeBSD 4.5? Dear FreeBSD:ers, I am happy to use FreeBSD for web, mail and applications serving. But when I come to the question about how to upgrade to a newer FreeBSD version, I really could need your expertise! We have two FreeBSD 4.5 boxes. Both boxes have been installed with FreeBSD 4.5 from CD, and then tweaked with reconfigured kernels and a few applications installed, mainly qmail (replacing sendmail), mod-php, mysql, pico and a few more. Both boxes have around 25 users each. Both boxes have tweaked settings in /etc/rc.conf and some other /etc/-files. My question is, if anyone can give a hint on how to upgrade safely from FreeBSD 4.5 to FreeBSD 5.0...? If we download FreeBSD 5.0 and install it on our FreeBSD 4.5 boxes, what will we have to do? Is there risk that all settings, contents and installed applications will be erased? Very thankful for all help on this matter...! -- Regards, Smartnet Sverige AB Johannes Angeldorff To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
