Re: Hardware Raid on Intel DG965OT Motherboard

2007-04-11 Thread Antony Mawer

On 5/04/2007 1:52 AM, Alexander Anderson wrote:

Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 08:52:44 AM, Antony Mawer wrote:

I have Intel D975XBX2 with two on-board SATA RAID controllers: one is Intel
Matrix and the other is Marvell storage. I have FreeBSD 6.2 with RAID-5
using Intel Matrix Storage. It seems to work fine.
You may want to re-think that option... according to the ataraid(4) man 
page, RAID5 is not functional (ie. you have about as much data safety as 
a RAID0 stripe set does):



CAVEATS
RAID5 is not supported at this time.  Code exists, but it neither uses
nor maintains parity information.


The ataraid driver provides *software* RAID. But doesn't Intel Matrix
Storage gives *hardware* RAID support? How could I tell if software is at
play?



I'm fairly certain that all ar# devices (ar0, etc) are ataraid-powered, 
and thus are software RAID. If it is a hardware RAID device, typically 
the RAID controller presents a single drive (or one drive for each RAID 
volume) to the OS, and the OS can be ignorant of the number of 
underlying drives.


Also, from man ataraid:

 The ataraid driver can read the following metadata formats:

 ...
 o   Intel MatrixRAID

Which suggests that is is, indeed, just a software RAID setup. That is, 
the BIOS-based bit just writes configuration metadata to the drives, and 
 its up to drivers at the OS level to perform the actual RAID 
operations using that data.


--Antony

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Re: Hardware Raid on Intel DG965OT Motherboard

2007-04-05 Thread Alexander Anderson
Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 08:52:44 AM, Antony Mawer wrote:
I have Intel D975XBX2 with two on-board SATA RAID controllers: one is Intel
Matrix and the other is Marvell storage. I have FreeBSD 6.2 with RAID-5
using Intel Matrix Storage. It seems to work fine.
 
 You may want to re-think that option... according to the ataraid(4) man 
 page, RAID5 is not functional (ie. you have about as much data safety as 
 a RAID0 stripe set does):
 
CAVEATS
 RAID5 is not supported at this time.  Code exists, but it neither uses
 nor maintains parity information.

The ataraid driver provides *software* RAID. But doesn't Intel Matrix
Storage gives *hardware* RAID support? How could I tell if software is at
play?

 One drive failure and you will be in for a whole world of hurt...

I was going to do a test and simulate a drive failure (and see how to
rebuild the array). I haven't had a chance to try that yet.
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Re: Hardware Raid on Intel DG965OT Motherboard

2007-04-04 Thread Alexander Anderson
Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 05:22:22 PM, Ivan Carey wrote:
 Is there hardware support for this Motherboard Intel DG965OT Motherboard 
 in FreeBSD 6.2 I have read the Hardware notes but am unable to determine 
 if FreeBSD 6.2 is compatible with Intel DG965OT Motherboard and the on 
 board Martix Storage Technology
 I would like to setup a Raid 1
 
 http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DG965OT/index.htm 
 http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DG965OT/index.htm
 
 Also are the any concise instruction on how to setup hardware raid 1? I 
 have searched the net

I have Intel D975XBX2 with two on-board SATA RAID controllers: one is Intel
Matrix and the other is Marvell storage. I have FreeBSD 6.2 with RAID-5
using Intel Matrix Storage. It seems to work fine.

When you set it up, you first have to create a RAID array. When your
machine boots, right after (or before?) you see the screen that takes you
to the BIOS configuration, you'll be prompted to press Ctrl-I (IIRC) and
you'll be taken to RAID controller configuration screen. It's really
straightforward how to create a new array.

Then, when you boot FreeBSD, you should look at dmesg output. Mine looks
like this:

ad4: 305245MB Seagate ST3320620AS 3.AAJ at ata2-master SATA150
ad6: 305245MB Seagate ST3320620AS 3.AAJ at ata3-master SATA150
ad8: 305245MB Seagate ST3320620AS 3.AAJ at ata4-master SATA150
ad10: 305245MB Seagate ST3320620AS 3.AAJ at ata5-master SATA150
ar0: 915729MB Intel MatrixRAID RAID5 (stripe 64 KB) status: READY
ar0: disk0 READY using ad4 at ata2-master
ar0: disk1 READY using ad8 at ata4-master
ar0: disk2 READY using ad6 at ata3-master
ar0: disk3 READY using ad10 at ata5-master

FreeBSD installer asked me what drive I wanted to install it to: ad4, ad6,
ad8, ad10, or ar0. Of course, I chose ar0.

(The second on-board RAID controller, Marvell 88SE6145, seems to be
unsupported under FreeBSD 6.2, unfortunately. It gave me quite some
trouble. But that's another topic.)
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Re: Hardware Raid on Intel DG965OT Motherboard

2007-04-04 Thread Antony Mawer

On 4/04/2007 9:30 PM, Alexander Anderson wrote:

I have Intel D975XBX2 with two on-board SATA RAID controllers: one is Intel
Matrix and the other is Marvell storage. I have FreeBSD 6.2 with RAID-5
using Intel Matrix Storage. It seems to work fine.

...

ad4: 305245MB Seagate ST3320620AS 3.AAJ at ata2-master SATA150
ad6: 305245MB Seagate ST3320620AS 3.AAJ at ata3-master SATA150
ad8: 305245MB Seagate ST3320620AS 3.AAJ at ata4-master SATA150
ad10: 305245MB Seagate ST3320620AS 3.AAJ at ata5-master SATA150
ar0: 915729MB Intel MatrixRAID RAID5 (stripe 64 KB) status: READY
ar0: disk0 READY using ad4 at ata2-master
ar0: disk1 READY using ad8 at ata4-master
ar0: disk2 READY using ad6 at ata3-master
ar0: disk3 READY using ad10 at ata5-master



You may want to re-think that option... according to the ataraid(4) man 
page, RAID5 is not functional (ie. you have about as much data safety as 
a RAID0 stripe set does):



CAVEATS
 RAID5 is not supported at this time.  Code exists, but it neither uses
 nor maintains parity information.


One drive failure and you will be in for a whole world of hurt...

--Antony
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Re: Hardware Raid on Intel DG965OT Motherboard

2007-04-04 Thread Ivan Carey

Alexander Anderson wrote:

Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 05:22:22 PM, Ivan Carey wrote:
  
Is there hardware support for this Motherboard Intel DG965OT Motherboard 
in FreeBSD 6.2 I have read the Hardware notes but am unable to determine 
if FreeBSD 6.2 is compatible with Intel DG965OT Motherboard and the on 
board Martix Storage Technology

I would like to setup a Raid 1

http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DG965OT/index.htm 
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DG965OT/index.htm


Also are the any concise instruction on how to setup hardware raid 1? I 
have searched the net



I have Intel D975XBX2 with two on-board SATA RAID controllers: one is Intel
Matrix and the other is Marvell storage. I have FreeBSD 6.2 with RAID-5
using Intel Matrix Storage. It seems to work fine.

When you set it up, you first have to create a RAID array. When your
machine boots, right after (or before?) you see the screen that takes you
to the BIOS configuration, you'll be prompted to press Ctrl-I (IIRC) and
you'll be taken to RAID controller configuration screen. It's really
straightforward how to create a new array.

Then, when you boot FreeBSD, you should look at dmesg output. Mine looks
like this:

ad4: 305245MB Seagate ST3320620AS 3.AAJ at ata2-master SATA150
ad6: 305245MB Seagate ST3320620AS 3.AAJ at ata3-master SATA150
ad8: 305245MB Seagate ST3320620AS 3.AAJ at ata4-master SATA150
ad10: 305245MB Seagate ST3320620AS 3.AAJ at ata5-master SATA150
ar0: 915729MB Intel MatrixRAID RAID5 (stripe 64 KB) status: READY
ar0: disk0 READY using ad4 at ata2-master
ar0: disk1 READY using ad8 at ata4-master
ar0: disk2 READY using ad6 at ata3-master
ar0: disk3 READY using ad10 at ata5-master

FreeBSD installer asked me what drive I wanted to install it to: ad4, ad6,
ad8, ad10, or ar0. Of course, I chose ar0.

(The second on-board RAID controller, Marvell 88SE6145, seems to be
unsupported under FreeBSD 6.2, unfortunately. It gave me quite some
trouble. But that's another topic.)
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Alexander thanks for the info,
How do you know when a drive has failed and how do you rebuild the 
array, Is this done in the bios or in FreeBSD?


Thnaks,
Ivan
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Hardware Raid on Intel DG965OT Motherboard

2007-04-03 Thread Ivan Carey
Is there hardware support for this Motherboard Intel DG965OT Motherboard 
in FreeBSD 6.2 I have read the Hardware notes but am unable to determine 
if FreeBSD 6.2 is compatible with Intel DG965OT Motherboard and the on 
board Martix Storage Technology

I would like to setup a Raid 1

http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DG965OT/index.htm 
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DG965OT/index.htm


Also are the any concise instruction on how to setup hardware raid 1? I 
have searched the net


Thanks,
Ivan
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