Re: Intel G965 chipset? (solved)
And finally, now that it seems everything is working: * Antony Mawer's backport diff (see freebsd-questions, 19Mar2007, Re: Can't see ATA drives with new install) worked well. I now have all the packages from disc 2 copied locally without any problems or errors. Also: * added hint.acpi.0.disabled=1 to /boot/device.hints to make the default boot have ACPI disabled Thanks to all, and hopefully this helps someone else avoid all the headaches! On Mon Jul 23, 2007, Bruce Caruthers wrote: Here's a followup, so anyone checking the archives will know what to do... (and if it helps the group overall, even better) Much thanks to those who tried to help. As I was running a Pentium on an Intel board, it never occurred to me to even look at the amd64 variant, until I realized the one guy with the same mobo who had posted with related problems (although able to install) mentioned he was using amd64, whereupon I checked my cpu and the FreeBSD/amd64 pages and discovered that it applied to my hardware. Downloaded amd64 and installed over ftp, and voila, my system runs! Hooray! === System: Intel DG965WH mobo (G965 Express chipset, ICH8R) Pentium 4 (631) CPU 2 RAID-1 pairs of Hitachi 320GB SATA300 (ar0, ar1) Phillips DVR-109 DVD drive === Successful Install: * 6.2-RELEASE-amd64: booted from downloaded CD, installed via ftp (would not let me even select CD as media, which presumably would have failed anyway, given the Marvell problem) * Will now apply Antony's pata patch, and see if that new kernel makes everything work right. If nothing else, the system seems to be up and running (only need CD for installs, all else is headless use) === Failed Attempts: * 6.2-RELEASE-i386 failed to even begin the install, despite trying all beastie menu boot options * 6.2-STABLE-i386-200706 failed to even begin the install, despite trying all beastie menu boot options * 7.0-CURRENT-i386-200706 appeared to install, but never could complete booting (froze at different dmesg output spots, depending on beastie boot choice, but still never made it to a login) * 6.2-RELEASE-i386 via 7.0-CURRENT-i386 as installer, (reconfigured in options settings to install 6.2 over ftp) -- in the hopes that being able to bypass the CD/DVD drive would let me get up and running -- alas, still no joy, although got about as far as 7.0-CURRENT (i.e. appeared to install, but couldn't actually use the system) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel G965 chipset?
Here's a followup, so anyone checking the archives will know what to do... (and if it helps the group overall, even better) Much thanks to those who tried to help. As I was running a Pentium on an Intel board, it never occurred to me to even look at the amd64 variant, until I realized the one guy with the same mobo who had posted with related problems (although able to install) mentioned he was using amd64, whereupon I checked my cpu and the FreeBSD/amd64 pages and discovered that it applied to my hardware. Downloaded amd64 and installed over ftp, and voila, my system runs! Hooray! === System: Intel DG965WH mobo (G965 Express chipset, ICH8R) Pentium 4 (631) CPU 2 RAID-1 pairs of Hitachi 320GB SATA300 (ar0, ar1) Phillips DVR-109 DVD drive === Successful Install: * 6.2-RELEASE-amd64: booted from downloaded CD, installed via ftp (would not let me even select CD as media, which presumably would have failed anyway, given the Marvell problem) * Will now apply Antony's pata patch, and see if that new kernel makes everything work right. If nothing else, the system seems to be up and running (only need CD for installs, all else is headless use) === Failed Attempts: * 6.2-RELEASE-i386 failed to even begin the install, despite trying all beastie menu boot options * 6.2-STABLE-i386-200706 failed to even begin the install, despite trying all beastie menu boot options * 7.0-CURRENT-i386-200706 appeared to install, but never could complete booting (froze at different dmesg output spots, depending on beastie boot choice, but still never made it to a login) * 6.2-RELEASE-i386 via 7.0-CURRENT-i386 as installer, (reconfigured in options settings to install 6.2 over ftp) -- in the hopes that being able to bypass the CD/DVD drive would let me get up and running -- alas, still no joy, although got about as far as 7.0-CURRENT (i.e. appeared to install, but couldn't actually use the system) Thanks! -bkc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel G965 chipset?
On Fri Jul 20, 2007, Bruce Caruthers wrote: On Fri Jul 20, 2007, Garrett Cooper wrote: Garrett Cooper wrote: Bruce Caruthers wrote: On Sat Jul 14, 2007, Antony Mawer wrote: On 14/07/2007 8:07 AM, Bruce Caruthers wrote: ... === My Question: So, can I use an Intel motherboard with the 965 chipset? If not, what is the latest chipset I can use which will meet my needs? We use the 965 based boards for many of our servers and they work fine - the only gotchas I have come across has been the onboard IDE controller is a Marvell ATA controller, and not supported by the drivers in 6.2-RELEASE. I made a back-port of the -CURRENT driver to 6.2 some months ago and have not had any problems (although the CD-ROM connected to said IDE channel is only used for the installation process!). I would imagine that the driver is likely present in 6-STABLE and the upcoming 6.3 release later this year. --Antony Now that the parts have arrived and I actually have the machine (physically) set up, I am trying to install from the downloaded ISO images (6.2-Release, downloaded 7/20). Each boot option hangs at different places (standard stops after identifying the disks as ad4 and ad8, ACPI turned off stops at md0, and verbose logging actually gets to the first menu, but no longer accepts keyboard input at that point -- might be hung, since couldn't warm boot from the keyboard, either, at that point). Were you able to do any of the install without the backported driver, or did you generate a custom install disk? Or, would it be better if I try making the boot floppies and installing over ftp? Any suggestions, or perhaps a downloadable ISO image, since you already went through this? :) I have 2xSATA300 disks as RAID-1, and an ATAPI DVD drive for installing. And an old 3.5 floppy drive I found on one of my parts heaps. (mobo: Intel DG965WH) Thanks for any help! -bkc Try a 6.2 snapshot (if that's not what you meant by downloaded 7/20). If that fails, try 7-CURRENT snapshots (most recent ones, i.e. over the last month, are the best idea). There were a variety of fixes made to USB input and control (if you're using a USB keyboard instead of a PS/2 one). -Garrett Another idea -- update your BIOS if possible via bootdisk. There were most likely some BIOS / chipset fixes done in the past couple months which will benefit your board. -Garrett I already checked, and my board was shipped with the latest BIOS updates (5/10). But thanks for the suggestion. I had downloaded the 6.2-Release ISOs, I just mentioned the date in case anything had been updated in the versions online (although I assume they would have been noted as such). How stable/reliable will a 6.2 snapshot or 7-current be? This machine is intended to replace my primary home server (SAMBA to Windows and Mac, web development sandbox, name server, etc.) so data integrity and reasonable uptime reliability are key. (My old 4.2 server is maxed out on disks, and has slowly been failing erratically.) Thanks! -bkc 6-STABLE (Jun07) hung at all the same places as 6.2-RELEASE. 7-CURRENT installed, but couldn't configure the network properly to ftp packages (haven't had the chance to experiment further with that yet). At the moment, I have a developer install (tried to do X-Developer, but the X.org and X.srv packages failed to ftp) on my system. Will see whether this 7-CURRENT install will fulfill my needs, I guess, since at the moment, I don't really have a choice. Since I now have a live system (assuming I get the network running on it) is there any way to build a custom mod of 6.2-RELEASE with the backported Marvell driver changes others have posted, and make an install CD from that? I really haven't mucked about with that kind of stuff since FreeBSD 1.1. :) (2.x and 4.x just worked smoothly for my systems.) Unfortunately, I wouldn't really call myself a programmer anymore, so consider my C/C++ skills weak/extremely rusty (shell, sed, perl and ruby are reasonably good still, though, if that helps). Thanks! -bkc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel G965 chipset?
On Sat Jul 14, 2007, Antony Mawer wrote: On 14/07/2007 8:07 AM, Bruce Caruthers wrote: ... === My Question: So, can I use an Intel motherboard with the 965 chipset? If not, what is the latest chipset I can use which will meet my needs? We use the 965 based boards for many of our servers and they work fine - the only gotchas I have come across has been the onboard IDE controller is a Marvell ATA controller, and not supported by the drivers in 6.2-RELEASE. I made a back-port of the -CURRENT driver to 6.2 some months ago and have not had any problems (although the CD-ROM connected to said IDE channel is only used for the installation process!). I would imagine that the driver is likely present in 6-STABLE and the upcoming 6.3 release later this year. --Antony Now that the parts have arrived and I actually have the machine (physically) set up, I am trying to install from the downloaded ISO images (6.2-Release, downloaded 7/20). Each boot option hangs at different places (standard stops after identifying the disks as ad4 and ad8, ACPI turned off stops at md0, and verbose logging actually gets to the first menu, but no longer accepts keyboard input at that point -- might be hung, since couldn't warm boot from the keyboard, either, at that point). Were you able to do any of the install without the backported driver, or did you generate a custom install disk? Or, would it be better if I try making the boot floppies and installing over ftp? Any suggestions, or perhaps a downloadable ISO image, since you already went through this? :) I have 2xSATA300 disks as RAID-1, and an ATAPI DVD drive for installing. And an old 3.5 floppy drive I found on one of my parts heaps. (mobo: Intel DG965WH) Thanks for any help! -bkc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel G965 chipset?
Bruce Caruthers wrote: On Sat Jul 14, 2007, Antony Mawer wrote: On 14/07/2007 8:07 AM, Bruce Caruthers wrote: ... === My Question: So, can I use an Intel motherboard with the 965 chipset? If not, what is the latest chipset I can use which will meet my needs? We use the 965 based boards for many of our servers and they work fine - the only gotchas I have come across has been the onboard IDE controller is a Marvell ATA controller, and not supported by the drivers in 6.2-RELEASE. I made a back-port of the -CURRENT driver to 6.2 some months ago and have not had any problems (although the CD-ROM connected to said IDE channel is only used for the installation process!). I would imagine that the driver is likely present in 6-STABLE and the upcoming 6.3 release later this year. --Antony Now that the parts have arrived and I actually have the machine (physically) set up, I am trying to install from the downloaded ISO images (6.2-Release, downloaded 7/20). Each boot option hangs at different places (standard stops after identifying the disks as ad4 and ad8, ACPI turned off stops at md0, and verbose logging actually gets to the first menu, but no longer accepts keyboard input at that point -- might be hung, since couldn't warm boot from the keyboard, either, at that point). Were you able to do any of the install without the backported driver, or did you generate a custom install disk? Or, would it be better if I try making the boot floppies and installing over ftp? Any suggestions, or perhaps a downloadable ISO image, since you already went through this? :) I have 2xSATA300 disks as RAID-1, and an ATAPI DVD drive for installing. And an old 3.5 floppy drive I found on one of my parts heaps. (mobo: Intel DG965WH) Thanks for any help! -bkc Try a 6.2 snapshot (if that's not what you meant by downloaded 7/20). If that fails, try 7-CURRENT snapshots (most recent ones, i.e. over the last month, are the best idea). There were a variety of fixes made to USB input and control (if you're using a USB keyboard instead of a PS/2 one). -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel G965 chipset?
Garrett Cooper wrote: Bruce Caruthers wrote: On Sat Jul 14, 2007, Antony Mawer wrote: On 14/07/2007 8:07 AM, Bruce Caruthers wrote: ... === My Question: So, can I use an Intel motherboard with the 965 chipset? If not, what is the latest chipset I can use which will meet my needs? We use the 965 based boards for many of our servers and they work fine - the only gotchas I have come across has been the onboard IDE controller is a Marvell ATA controller, and not supported by the drivers in 6.2-RELEASE. I made a back-port of the -CURRENT driver to 6.2 some months ago and have not had any problems (although the CD-ROM connected to said IDE channel is only used for the installation process!). I would imagine that the driver is likely present in 6-STABLE and the upcoming 6.3 release later this year. --Antony Now that the parts have arrived and I actually have the machine (physically) set up, I am trying to install from the downloaded ISO images (6.2-Release, downloaded 7/20). Each boot option hangs at different places (standard stops after identifying the disks as ad4 and ad8, ACPI turned off stops at md0, and verbose logging actually gets to the first menu, but no longer accepts keyboard input at that point -- might be hung, since couldn't warm boot from the keyboard, either, at that point). Were you able to do any of the install without the backported driver, or did you generate a custom install disk? Or, would it be better if I try making the boot floppies and installing over ftp? Any suggestions, or perhaps a downloadable ISO image, since you already went through this? :) I have 2xSATA300 disks as RAID-1, and an ATAPI DVD drive for installing. And an old 3.5 floppy drive I found on one of my parts heaps. (mobo: Intel DG965WH) Thanks for any help! -bkc Try a 6.2 snapshot (if that's not what you meant by downloaded 7/20). If that fails, try 7-CURRENT snapshots (most recent ones, i.e. over the last month, are the best idea). There were a variety of fixes made to USB input and control (if you're using a USB keyboard instead of a PS/2 one). -Garrett Another idea -- update your BIOS if possible via bootdisk. There were most likely some BIOS / chipset fixes done in the past couple months which will benefit your board. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel G965 chipset?
On Fri Jul 20, 2007, Garrett Cooper wrote: Garrett Cooper wrote: Bruce Caruthers wrote: On Sat Jul 14, 2007, Antony Mawer wrote: On 14/07/2007 8:07 AM, Bruce Caruthers wrote: ... === My Question: So, can I use an Intel motherboard with the 965 chipset? If not, what is the latest chipset I can use which will meet my needs? We use the 965 based boards for many of our servers and they work fine - the only gotchas I have come across has been the onboard IDE controller is a Marvell ATA controller, and not supported by the drivers in 6.2-RELEASE. I made a back-port of the -CURRENT driver to 6.2 some months ago and have not had any problems (although the CD-ROM connected to said IDE channel is only used for the installation process!). I would imagine that the driver is likely present in 6-STABLE and the upcoming 6.3 release later this year. --Antony Now that the parts have arrived and I actually have the machine (physically) set up, I am trying to install from the downloaded ISO images (6.2-Release, downloaded 7/20). Each boot option hangs at different places (standard stops after identifying the disks as ad4 and ad8, ACPI turned off stops at md0, and verbose logging actually gets to the first menu, but no longer accepts keyboard input at that point -- might be hung, since couldn't warm boot from the keyboard, either, at that point). Were you able to do any of the install without the backported driver, or did you generate a custom install disk? Or, would it be better if I try making the boot floppies and installing over ftp? Any suggestions, or perhaps a downloadable ISO image, since you already went through this? :) I have 2xSATA300 disks as RAID-1, and an ATAPI DVD drive for installing. And an old 3.5 floppy drive I found on one of my parts heaps. (mobo: Intel DG965WH) Thanks for any help! -bkc Try a 6.2 snapshot (if that's not what you meant by downloaded 7/20). If that fails, try 7-CURRENT snapshots (most recent ones, i.e. over the last month, are the best idea). There were a variety of fixes made to USB input and control (if you're using a USB keyboard instead of a PS/2 one). -Garrett Another idea -- update your BIOS if possible via bootdisk. There were most likely some BIOS / chipset fixes done in the past couple months which will benefit your board. -Garrett I already checked, and my board was shipped with the latest BIOS updates (5/10). But thanks for the suggestion. I had downloaded the 6.2-Release ISOs, I just mentioned the date in case anything had been updated in the versions online (although I assume they would have been noted as such). How stable/reliable will a 6.2 snapshot or 7-current be? This machine is intended to replace my primary home server (SAMBA to Windows and Mac, web development sandbox, name server, etc.) so data integrity and reasonable uptime reliability are key. (My old 4.2 server is maxed out on disks, and has slowly been failing erratically.) Thanks! -bkc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel G965 chipset?
On 14/07/2007 8:07 AM, Bruce Caruthers wrote: ... === My Question: So, can I use an Intel motherboard with the 965 chipset? If not, what is the latest chipset I can use which will meet my needs? We use the 965 based boards for many of our servers and they work fine - the only gotchas I have come across has been the onboard IDE controller is a Marvell ATA controller, and not supported by the drivers in 6.2-RELEASE. I made a back-port of the -CURRENT driver to 6.2 some months ago and have not had any problems (although the CD-ROM connected to said IDE channel is only used for the installation process!). I would imagine that the driver is likely present in 6-STABLE and the upcoming 6.3 release later this year. --Antony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intel G965 chipset?
Hi, all. I am in the process of replacing my old, formerly solidly reliable 4.2 RAID server. I've been eyeing the Intel DG965WH motherboard and its kin, but from my searches of the mailing list archives, it seems unclear whether it will work. There were several postings with workarounds (e.g. turn off ACPI, the marvell_pata patch, etc.) but no followup postings to indicate whether any of that worked... === My Question: So, can I use an Intel motherboard with the 965 chipset? If not, what is the latest chipset I can use which will meet my needs? === My needs are: * long-term reliable (current system is 7 years old) * 6+ SATA with RAID 1 (RAID 5 would be nice, but not required -- old server is just RAID 1 with a Highpoint 370 on an Abit BX133 mobo) * Firewire for removable snapshot drives * Preferably PCI-e/Express, since that seems to be the near-future for later expansion * Being able to use non-SATA CD/DVD drive for installs and perhaps experimenting with BSD DVD burning tools * Unless I do the DVD burning stuff, CPU doesn't matter to me (currently using Celeron 766MHz on old server, with 256 MB RAM, and only noticed when rebuilding a kernel) * I don't care about audio, and just need basic text-mode VGA, since this will sit in my basement. === OS: If it matters, I'll be moving from 4.2 to I guess 6.2 with this (clean install). I've used pre-1.0 FreeBSD/386BSD up through 4.10, but haven't messed with 5.x or newer yet. Any major gotchas I should be aware of? Sorry for being long-winded. Just want to be clear on what my concerns are, so I don't waste anyone's time. :) Thanks! -bkc -- Bruce Caruthers http://www.BruceCaruthers.com/ ~~~ It's good to be good, EDUCATION is understanding the rules; but it's better to be luckyEXPERIENCE is understanding the exceptions. -- The Trading Goddess -- Farmer's Almanac. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel G965 chipset?
Bruce Caruthers wrote: Hi, all. I am in the process of replacing my old, formerly solidly reliable 4.2 RAID server. I've been eyeing the Intel DG965WH motherboard and its kin, but from my searches of the mailing list archives, it seems unclear whether it will work. There were several postings with workarounds (e.g. turn off ACPI, the marvell_pata patch, etc.) but no followup postings to indicate whether any of that worked... === My Question: So, can I use an Intel motherboard with the 965 chipset? If not, what is the latest chipset I can use which will meet my needs? === My needs are: * long-term reliable (current system is 7 years old) * 6+ SATA with RAID 1 (RAID 5 would be nice, but not required -- old server is just RAID 1 with a Highpoint 370 on an Abit BX133 mobo) * Firewire for removable snapshot drives * Preferably PCI-e/Express, since that seems to be the near-future for later expansion * Being able to use non-SATA CD/DVD drive for installs and perhaps experimenting with BSD DVD burning tools * Unless I do the DVD burning stuff, CPU doesn't matter to me (currently using Celeron 766MHz on old server, with 256 MB RAM, and only noticed when rebuilding a kernel) * I don't care about audio, and just need basic text-mode VGA, since this will sit in my basement. === OS: If it matters, I'll be moving from 4.2 to I guess 6.2 with this (clean install). I've used pre-1.0 FreeBSD/386BSD up through 4.10, but haven't messed with 5.x or newer yet. Any major gotchas I should be aware of? Sorry for being long-winded. Just want to be clear on what my concerns are, so I don't waste anyone's time. :) Thanks! -bkc -- Bruce Caruthers http://www.BruceCaruthers.com/ ~~~ It's good to be good, EDUCATION is understanding the rules; but it's better to be lucky EXPERIENCE is understanding the exceptions. -- The Trading Goddess -- Farmer's Almanac. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Bruce, I'm no expert but when I asked similar questions about this board and a server board I found this information: http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/06/06/intel_launches_p965/ The 965 motherboard uses the ICH8 chipset FreeBSD ata(4) supports the ICH8 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=atasektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+6.2-RELEASE Intel Technical doc http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/wh/wh_documentation.htm So it looks like the 965 motherboard should work under FreeBSD 6.2 Ivan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
