Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-09-04 Thread Mel Flynn
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 12:50:00 Michiel Overtoom wrote: I never understood the need for transparent windows. If you're working in a window you want to concentrate on its contents, not on stuff that's happening beneath it. It breaks the flow. I think it's indicative of the

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-26 Thread Michiel Overtoom
On Friday 07 August 2009 16:12:03 Andrew Gould wrote: Is there an increase in usability/benefit to match the increase in resource consumption? As I see it, KDE4 fell in the Vista trap. I tried KDE4 and was showered with eye candy effects, some of which couldn't even be disabled. Also, quite

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-26 Thread Mike Jeays
On August 26, 2009 06:50:00 am Michiel Overtoom wrote: On Friday 07 August 2009 16:12:03 Andrew Gould wrote: Is there an increase in usability/benefit to match the increase in resource consumption? As I see it, KDE4 fell in the Vista trap. I tried KDE4 and was showered with eye candy

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 06 Aug 2009 at 22:49:09 PDT Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:37:26AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:15:18 -0500, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: Unless things have changed very recently, KDE4 is in its own directory folder. Terminology: the

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread ltcddats
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:15:18 -0500 Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Paul Schmehlpschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go about it?  Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first?  Is

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread RW
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:33:38 -0700 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: i'd be interested in Paul's question. it may be that kde3 is sopping up wy to much disc space. only have 6.5g left KDE4 makes KDE3 look like Fluxbox. I can't remember the exact figures on

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread Andrew Gould
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:23 AM, RWrwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:33:38 -0700 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:        i'd be interested in Paul's question.  it may be that kde3       is sopping up wy to much disc space.  only have 6.5g       left KDE4

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread RW
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:53:05 -0500 Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote: --On August 6, 2009 7:15:18 PM -0500 Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: Unless things have changed very recently, KDE4 is in its own directory folder. This may imply that KDE3 and KDE4 can coexist.

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread RW
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:12:03 -0500 Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: Is there an increase in usability/benefit to match the increase in resource consumption? (Please forgive me - I know that's a horribly subjective question.) IMO it's less usable in terms of ergonomics, and they

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:53:05 -0500, Paul Schmehl pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com a écrit : I don't want to run KDE3 and KDE4 side by side. I want to migrate from the former to the latter. K3B needs kde3 and amarok2 is not yet ready for KDE 4.3. I still use amarok 1.4. There is no problem to use

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, August 07, 2009 00:27:00 -0500 Kent Stewart kstew...@owt.com wrote: On Thursday 06 August 2009 05:53:05 pm Paul Schmehl wrote: --On August 6, 2009 7:15:18 PM -0500 Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Paul

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread Mel Flynn
On Thursday 06 August 2009 19:26:20 Paul Schmehl wrote: --On August 6, 2009 9:29:30 PM -0500 Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Thursday 06 August 2009 15:21:14 Paul Schmehl wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-07 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:23:20PM +0100, RW wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:33:38 -0700 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: i'd be interested in Paul's question. it may be that kde3 is sopping up wy to much disc space. only have 6.5g left KDE4 makes KDE3 look

KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Paul Schmehl
Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go about it? Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first? Is there an upgrade path that's not fraught with gotchas? -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Andrew Gould
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Paul Schmehlpschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go about it?  Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first?  Is there an upgrade path that's not fraught with gotchas? -- Paul Schmehl, Senior

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:15:18 -0500, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: Unless things have changed very recently, KDE4 is in its own directory folder. Terminology: the directory (is not a folder, and not a directory folder). FreeBSD has directories, not folders. :-) -- Polytropon

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Gary Kline
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 11:21:14PM +, Paul Schmehl wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go about it? Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first? Is there an upgrade path that's not fraught with gotchas? i have a me-too here. i don't

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On August 6, 2009 7:15:18 PM -0500 Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Paul Schmehlpschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go about it?  Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first?  Is

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Mel Flynn
On Thursday 06 August 2009 15:21:14 Paul Schmehl wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go about it? Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first? Is there an upgrade path that's not fraught with gotchas? Wait a week I'd say. KDE 4.3.0 has hit the ports

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Andrew Gould
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Polytroponfree...@edvax.de wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:15:18 -0500, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: Unless things have changed very recently, KDE4 is in its own directory folder. Terminology: the directory (is not a folder, and not a directory

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On August 6, 2009 9:29:30 PM -0500 Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Thursday 06 August 2009 15:21:14 Paul Schmehl wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to go about it? Do I need to completely uninstall kde3 first? Is

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Kent Stewart
On Thursday 06 August 2009 05:53:05 pm Paul Schmehl wrote: --On August 6, 2009 7:15:18 PM -0500 Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Paul Schmehlpschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote: Can someone who has already done this upgrade suggest the best way to

Re: KDE3 -- KDE4

2009-08-06 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:37:26AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:15:18 -0500, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote: Unless things have changed very recently, KDE4 is in its own directory folder. Terminology: the directory (is not a folder, and not a directory