Re: Many SATA disks

2012-04-01 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 3/31/2012 6:28 PM, Daniel Feenberg wrote:
 
 We would like to build a FreeBSD machine ourselves with many (~15) SATA
 drives, but NOT use a RAID controller. We want to be able to remove any
 drive and connect it to an ordinary motherboard SATA port and mount the
 filesystem using only the OS provided drivers and tools. I have built
 many FreeBSD systems, but never used port multipliers and don't know
 which controllers advertised as RAID controllers will support a plain
 pass-thru mode. Would anyone like to make a suggestion from actual
 experience?
 
 The system will be used solely for archiving, so performance is not
 critical, but portability of the partitions to other systems is necessary.


We use this controller
http://www.addonics.com/products/adsa3gpx8-4e.php
connected to 3 external drive cages.  It works via the siis driver


# camcontrol devlist | egrep ada|ulti
WDC WD2001FASS-00U0B0 01.00101   at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (ada0,pass0)
WDC WD2001FASS-00U0B0 01.00101   at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (ada1,pass1)
WDC WD2001FASS-00U0B0 01.00101   at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 (ada2,pass2)
WDC WD2001FASS-00U0B0 01.00101   at scbus0 target 3 lun 0 (ada3,pass3)
Port Multiplier 47261095 1f06at scbus0 target 15 lun 0 (pass4,pmp2)
WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0 05.01D05   at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (ada4,pass5)
WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0 05.01D05   at scbus2 target 1 lun 0 (ada5,pass6)
WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0 05.01D05   at scbus2 target 2 lun 0 (ada6,pass7)
WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0 05.01D05   at scbus2 target 3 lun 0 (ada7,pass8)
WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0 05.01D05   at scbus2 target 4 lun 0 (ada8,pass9)
Port Multiplier 37261095 1706at scbus2 target 15 lun 0 (pass10,pmp0)
WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0 05.01D05   at scbus3 target 0 lun 0 (ada9,pass11)
WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0 05.01D05   at scbus3 target 1 lun 0 (ada10,pass12)
WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0 05.01D05   at scbus3 target 2 lun 0 (ada11,pass13)
WDC WD2002FAEX-007BA0 05.01D05   at scbus3 target 3 lun 0 (ada12,pass14)
Port Multiplier 37261095 1706at scbus3 target 15 lun 0 (pass15,pmp1)
ST31000333AS SD35at scbus6 target 0 lun 0 (ada13,pass20)
ST31000528AS CC35at scbus7 target 0 lun 0 (ada14,pass21)
ST31000340AS SD1Aat scbus8 target 0 lun 0 (ada15,pass22)
WDC WD1002FAEX-00Z3A0 05.01D05   at scbus11 target 0 lun 0 (ada16,pass23)


They are part of a zfs pool, but you could use them as individual drives.  If 
they are not part of some raid system, you will have of course no redundancy 
should a disk fail, unless you have some other plan for that.

For us, the pool is not usable if one of the drive cages fails, so its not the 
most reliable setup for high availability.  But its a backup server, so 
temporary down time should a PM fail is acceptable. Individual disks of course 
can be swapped out as needed.  Also, using ZFS allows us to easily add to the 
storage capacity for more backups or for longer snapshot retention.


---Mike
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Sentex Communications, m...@sentex.net
Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net
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Many SATA disks

2012-03-31 Thread Daniel Feenberg


We would like to build a FreeBSD machine ourselves with many (~15) SATA 
drives, but NOT use a RAID controller. We want to be able to remove any 
drive and connect it to an ordinary motherboard SATA port and mount the 
filesystem using only the OS provided drivers and tools. I have built many 
FreeBSD systems, but never used port multipliers and don't know which 
controllers advertised as RAID controllers will support a plain pass-thru 
mode. Would anyone like to make a suggestion from actual experience?


The system will be used solely for archiving, so performance is not 
critical, but portability of the partitions to other systems is necessary.


Daniel Feenberg
NBER

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