Re: Multiple solutions for a problem (Re: How to map bad sectors onIDE?)

2003-02-01 Thread Stephen Hovey

This has been an open question - I dont believe IDE's do much of their own
bad block marking - 

there used to be a utility called bad144 - though I dont know that it did
much - I know SCO has a utility.

On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Marc Schneiders wrote:

 On 31 Jan 2003, at 19:43 [=GMT-0500], Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 
  Marc Schneiders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   I have searched Google to find a solution to mark off these two
   blocks/inodes (or however I should call them), so that they will not
   be used anymore. All I found is that this is not possible on
   IDE. Advise: Throw away the disk. Now this I find a bit radical :-)
   Esp. since the disk is about 3 years old.
 
  Why is it radical?
 
 Because it involves a lot of work to backup the disk, open up the
 machine, check it with some software that reports something that I
 could tell Maxtor, have them give me another disk (if they do that).
 Wait, wait, wait. And all this time machine not working obviously,
 which is extra bad since it is the key machine here that connects
 others to the internet.
 
 All in all I would say 10 hours work, a few weeks of waiting.
 
 So why not first try something (if it exists, which was my question)
 that does not involve picking up a screwdriver and turning of my
 network here? Or lets say I am poor (which I am) and cannot really
 just run off and buy a new disk? The one with problems may be under
 warrenty, it may not. I cannot tell before I take the machine apart
 and read the serial on the disk.
 
 Your advise sounds perfectly sound for IBM and Microsoft and the
 Pentagon. But for a home or small office situation, there might be
 another way to deal with it?
 
 Especially since we are not talking about something 10 years old or
 heavily used in a mailserver.
 
  After all, IDE disks already do bad-block
  remapping internally, so you've built up a *lot* of bad sectors
  already if they're starting to become visible to the operating
  system...
 
 
 
 
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Multiple solutions for a problem (Re: How to map bad sectors onIDE?)

2003-01-31 Thread Marc Schneiders
On 31 Jan 2003, at 19:43 [=GMT-0500], Lowell Gilbert wrote:

 Marc Schneiders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I have searched Google to find a solution to mark off these two
  blocks/inodes (or however I should call them), so that they will not
  be used anymore. All I found is that this is not possible on
  IDE. Advise: Throw away the disk. Now this I find a bit radical :-)
  Esp. since the disk is about 3 years old.

 Why is it radical?

Because it involves a lot of work to backup the disk, open up the
machine, check it with some software that reports something that I
could tell Maxtor, have them give me another disk (if they do that).
Wait, wait, wait. And all this time machine not working obviously,
which is extra bad since it is the key machine here that connects
others to the internet.

All in all I would say 10 hours work, a few weeks of waiting.

So why not first try something (if it exists, which was my question)
that does not involve picking up a screwdriver and turning of my
network here? Or lets say I am poor (which I am) and cannot really
just run off and buy a new disk? The one with problems may be under
warrenty, it may not. I cannot tell before I take the machine apart
and read the serial on the disk.

Your advise sounds perfectly sound for IBM and Microsoft and the
Pentagon. But for a home or small office situation, there might be
another way to deal with it?

Especially since we are not talking about something 10 years old or
heavily used in a mailserver.

 After all, IDE disks already do bad-block
 remapping internally, so you've built up a *lot* of bad sectors
 already if they're starting to become visible to the operating
 system...




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