NIS on a school network - need some clarifications

2004-08-25 Thread Hugo Silva
Hi,

I'm working on a project to change the network on my school to open source
software only (FreeBSD/Linux workstations only).

I knew about NIS from readings of the handbook years ago, so I revisited
it today, but there' is something that's missing. I understand the NIS
accounts reside on the master server and I have to add users on the master
server. But then, users on workstations will have their home directories
etc referring only to the local machine.

I want to have users get their home directories from a central location
too. Is there any 'official' process to make this work, with NIS if
possible ?

I plan to have a 'student-shared-area' that will be NFS mounted on every
workstation on boot, but I want each user to have their files available,
wherever they login from.

Also, I assume there is no problem in using NIS accounts with X. From the
logic of it, there shouldn't be any problems.

A few last questions,

Since I plan to switch the whole network from windows to FreeBSD / Linux
(only adding linux because other people want it :-P), I'll need to
substitute the following applications:

- Visual C++ (anjuta)
- MS Access  (?)

I don't know much about access, but I believe it's possible to have a
ms-access database server.. if that's the case, is there a open source
client with a similiar GUI to ms access available ? (note: mysql/etc won't
do, the school program says ms access, so we need something similiar)


Any insight on these issues is most welcome

Regards,

Hugo


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RE: NIS on a school network - need some clarifications

2004-08-25 Thread LiQuiD
Hi Hugo,

Look to NFS to do that for you.  Here's a link to a page in the online
handbook.  NFS can do exactly what you want

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-nfs.ht
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 Subject: NIS on a school network - need some clarifications
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm working on a project to change the network on my school to open
source
 software only (FreeBSD/Linux workstations only).
 
 I knew about NIS from readings of the handbook years ago, so I
revisited
 it today, but there' is something that's missing. I understand the NIS
 accounts reside on the master server and I have to add users on the
master
 server. But then, users on workstations will have their home
directories
 etc referring only to the local machine.
 
 I want to have users get their home directories from a central
location
 too. Is there any 'official' process to make this work, with NIS if
 possible ?
 
 I plan to have a 'student-shared-area' that will be NFS mounted on
every
 workstation on boot, but I want each user to have their files
available,
 wherever they login from.
 
 Also, I assume there is no problem in using NIS accounts with X. From
the
 logic of it, there shouldn't be any problems.
 
 A few last questions,
 
 Since I plan to switch the whole network from windows to FreeBSD /
Linux
 (only adding linux because other people want it :-P), I'll need to
 substitute the following applications:
 
 - Visual C++ (anjuta)
 - MS Access  (?)
 
 I don't know much about access, but I believe it's possible to have a
 ms-access database server.. if that's the case, is there a open source
 client with a similiar GUI to ms access available ? (note: mysql/etc
won't
 do, the school program says ms access, so we need something similiar)
 
 
 Any insight on these issues is most welcome
 
 Regards,
 
 Hugo
 
 
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Re: NIS on a school network - need some clarifications

2004-08-25 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 14:36:03 - (GMT)
Hugo Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm working on a project to change the network on my school to open
 source software only (FreeBSD/Linux workstations only).
 
 I knew about NIS from readings of the handbook years ago, so I
 revisited it today, but there' is something that's missing. I
 understand the NIS accounts reside on the master server and I have
 to add users on the master server. But then, users on workstations
 will have their home directories etc referring only to the local
 machine.
 
 I want to have users get their home directories from a central
 location too. Is there any 'official' process to make this work,
 with NIS if possible ?
 
 I plan to have a 'student-shared-area' that will be NFS mounted on
 every workstation on boot, but I want each user to have their files
 available, wherever they login from.
 
 Also, I assume there is no problem in using NIS accounts with X.
 From the logic of it, there shouldn't be any problems.

NIS exports info from a passwd file.  So this will include user
information and ect... groups can also be exported to... the means
using NFS you can export a file system or place on a fs. Allowing you
to export /usr/home or the like

 A few last questions,
 
 Since I plan to switch the whole network from windows to FreeBSD /
 Linux(only adding linux because other people want it :-P), I'll need
 to substitute the following applications:

 - Visual C++ (anjuta)
 - MS Access  (?)

Just browse till you find a few you like... I personally like
xemacs... eclipse and a few others may be a possability too.


For Databases, there are quite a few aviable... check them out till
you find one that fits what you need. 

 I don't know much about access, but I believe it's possible to have
 a ms-access database server.. if that's the case, is there a open
 source client with a similiar GUI to ms access available ? (note:
 mysql/etc won't do, the school program says ms access, so we need
 something similiar)

If the school's whack jobs say you need specifically MS Access, you
are screwed then since afaik it has not been ported to any thing
except windows yet.
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Re: NIS on a school network - need some clarifications

2004-08-25 Thread Hugo Silva
 NIS exports info from a passwd file.  So this will include user
 information and ect... groups can also be exported to... the means
 using NFS you can export a file system or place on a fs. Allowing you
 to export /usr/home or the like

Point well taken, I didn't think on this. Should do the trick :-)

 If the school's whack jobs say you need specifically MS Access, you
 are screwed then since afaik it has not been ported to any thing
 except windows yet.


Tell me about it. Who knows if they'll end up using mysql  mysqlcc
instead :-P

Thanks for the suggestions

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Re: NIS on a school network - need some clarifications

2004-08-25 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Wednesday 25 August 2004 09:36 am, Hugo Silva wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm working on a project to change the network on my school to open
 source software only (FreeBSD/Linux workstations only).
snip

 Since I plan to switch the whole network from windows to FreeBSD /
 Linux (only adding linux because other people want it :-P), I'll need
 to substitute the following applications:

 - Visual C++ (anjuta)
 - MS Access  (?)

 I don't know much about access, but I believe it's possible to have a
 ms-access database server.. if that's the case, is there a open
 source client with a similiar GUI to ms access available ? (note:
 mysql/etc won't do, the school program says ms access, so we need
 something similiar)


 Any insight on these issues is most welcome

 Regards,

 Hugo

Hugo,

You're out of luck where MS Access is concerned.  FreeBSD comes with 
several outstanding database servers; but nothing that matches MS 
Access as a RAD for database clients or a tool for complex, ad hoc 
analysis.  Access makes for a lousy server; but excels as a GUI client.

You can install MS Access on Linux using Codeweaver's Crossover Office 
(a WINE thing); but it seems to have memory limitations, and crashes 
under moderate workloads.

MS Access (Win2K or XP Pro) + PostgreSQL (FreeBSD) is a very powerful 
combination.  

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould
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Re: NIS on a school network - need some clarifications

2004-08-25 Thread Lee Harr
I'm working on a project to change the network on my school to open source
software only (FreeBSD/Linux workstations only).
Excellent. Some lucky students there!

I knew about NIS from readings of the handbook years ago, so I revisited
it today, but there' is something that's missing. I understand the NIS
accounts reside on the master server and I have to add users on the master
server. But then, users on workstations will have their home directories
etc referring only to the local machine.
I considered doing the same thing... using NFS mounts. My problem with
it was security. I think NFS v4 has better security. I ended up using thin
clients to one single server. Works quite well. Depends on how many
clients you need though.

Since I plan to switch the whole network from windows to FreeBSD / Linux
(only adding linux because other people want it :-P), I'll need to
substitute the following applications:
- Visual C++ (anjuta)
KDevelop is quite nice
- MS Access  (?)
There are a few still in early stages of development. I think
that Kexi (http://www.koffice.org/kexi/) and rekall
(http://www.rekallrevealed.org/) are the most access-like,
but there are others too...

I don't know much about access, but I believe it's possible to have a
ms-access database server.. if that's the case, is there a open source
client with a similiar GUI to ms access available ? (note: mysql/etc won't
do, the school program says ms access, so we need something similiar)
I think that's backwards, really. The database that comes with
access is pretty weak, but many people use access as a front end
to better database engines like postgresql.
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