Re: Need an audio multicasting solution
RW wrote: You can use videolan / vlc. It allows you to multicast video too. In September 2011 BSD Magazine you have some examples about that. I like vlc on Linux/Windows machines. But installing it to a streaming server is a pain. Even if you disable all options in make config, it still tries to build scores of dependencies including some components of the X Window system. Not nice. did you try setting WITH_SERVER_ONLY? Actually, setting WITH_SERVER_ONLY only sets 4 options WITHOUT_LUA=yes WITHOUT_QT4=yes WITH_RUNROOT=yes WITHOUT_XCB=yes which I have set anyway. The number of dependencies is still appalling. In fact, I have found a solution with ffmpeg, the example command lines are: ffmpeg -i file.mp3 -acodec copy -f rtp rtp://239.8.8.8:5000 -re ffmpeg -f oss -i /dev/dsp -acodec mp2 -f rtp rtp://239.8.8.8:5000 -re ffmpeg should be compiled WITH_LAME. Multicast stream playback has been tested with vlc (Windows XP, Fedora Linux) and mplayer (FreeBSD 8). In more detail in Russian: http://victor-sudakov.dreamwidth.org/68437.html http://victor-sudakov.dreamwidth.org/68975.html http://victor-sudakov.dreamwidth.org/69243.html -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:suda...@sibptus.tomsk.ru ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Need an audio multicasting solution
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:57:04 +0700 Victor Sudakov wrote: You can use videolan / vlc. It allows you to multicast video too. In September 2011 BSD Magazine you have some examples about that. I like vlc on Linux/Windows machines. But installing it to a streaming server is a pain. Even if you disable all options in make config, it still tries to build scores of dependencies including some components of the X Window system. Not nice. did you try setting WITH_SERVER_ONLY? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Need an audio multicasting solution
Alejandro Imass wrote: A quick look at Icecast showed that it does not support multicast either. It this true? If so, Icecast is completely useless for my scenario. AFAIK very few media streamers (or none) actually support real IPv4 (Class D) Multicast. They support what is known as application multicast akin to a multi-process/multi-threaded Web server. I don't know much about real IPv4 Multicast but I've heard it's not that easy to do in the real world and would probably require coordination with your ISP unless you're multicasting in a private networks. I use multicasting in a corporate network. Again, IMHO because I've never even attempted multicasting. It's fun and very pleasing aesthetically :) At least on Cisco. As to the original question. I have had some success with multimedia/ffmpeg, at least this: ffmpeg -i file.mp3 -acodec copy -f rtp rtp://239.8.8.8:5000 -re does send a multicast stream which can be listened to with VLC (but not mplayer for some reason) on multiple hosts. Now I need to figure out how to stream live sound from /dev/dsp. All my attemps to record sound from a USB audio interface have resulted so far in a severely distorted growl instead of normal voice. Does anybody know how to figure out the sampling rate and other parameters of the sound card? cat /dev/sndstat does not output anything really useful. Why do you need multicasting anyway? To save bandwidth mostly, and it's fun to setup :). Taking into account that I have PIM working across all our WAN links (an in-house monitoring/alarm system relies thereupon), it would be nice to use this infrastructure for sound too. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:suda...@sibptus.tomsk.ru ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Need an audio multicasting solution
Eduardo Morras wrote: I need a solution to read sound from a soundcard (/dev/dsp) and multicast it into the network, for the multicast audio stream to be played on FreeBSD, Linux and Windows workstations. No sophisticated codecs needed, plain PCM would do. Can you advise something? I know that in theory there are many ways to implement this, but I am especially interested in personal first-hand experience, success stories or good white papers. Please no lmgtfu-type replies. Thanks very much in advance. You can use videolan / vlc. It allows you to multicast video too. In September 2011 BSD Magazine you have some examples about that. I like vlc on Linux/Windows machines. But installing it to a streaming server is a pain. Even if you disable all options in make config, it still tries to build scores of dependencies including some components of the X Window system. Not nice. Now I am experimenting with ffmpeg (with ffserver and without) with moderate success. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:suda...@sibptus.tomsk.ru ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Need an audio multicasting solution
At 08:21 09/09/2011, Victor Sudakov wrote: Colleagues, I need a solution to read sound from a soundcard (/dev/dsp) and multicast it into the network, for the multicast audio stream to be played on FreeBSD, Linux and Windows workstations. No sophisticated codecs needed, plain PCM would do. Can you advise something? I know that in theory there are many ways to implement this, but I am especially interested in personal first-hand experience, success stories or good white papers. Please no lmgtfu-type replies. Thanks very much in advance. You can use videolan / vlc. It allows you to multicast video too. In September 2011 BSD Magazine you have some examples about that. HTH ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Need an audio multicasting solution
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Victor Sudakov v...@mpeks.tomsk.su wrote: Alejandro Imass wrote: I need a solution to read sound from a soundcard (/dev/dsp) and [...] Alejandro, correct me if I am wrong but AFAIK Icecast works with mp3 Yep, actually ogg Vorbis and Theora basically and also MP3 ano other over shoutcast, AFAIK, files. Can it really read audio from /dev/dsp? I don't need mp3, I Icecast needs a source client to feed the stream. I use Internet DJ on a separate machine to feed to the Icecast server and distribute from there to almost any player. [...] -- Alejandro ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Need an audio multicasting solution
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Victor Sudakov v...@mpeks.tomsk.su wrote: [...] A quick look at Icecast showed that it does not support multicast either. It this true? If so, Icecast is completely useless for my scenario. AFAIK very few media streamers (or none) actually support real IPv4 (Class D) Multicast. They support what is known as application multicast akin to a multi-process/multi-threaded Web server. I don't know much about real IPv4 Multicast but I've heard it's not that easy to do in the real world and would probably require coordination with your ISP unless you're multicasting in a private networks. Again, IMHO because I've never even attempted multicasting. Why do you need multicasting anyway? -- Alejandro Imass ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Need an audio multicasting solution
Victor Sudakov v...@mpeks.tomsk.su, 2011-09-09 08:21 (+0200): I need a solution to read sound from a soundcard (/dev/dsp) and multicast it into the network, for the multicast audio stream to be played on FreeBSD, Linux and Windows workstations. Does the old LBL vat tool still work on modern system? http://ee.lbl.gov/vat/ I haven't used it for 15 years or so but it worked back then. Also, the Robust Audio Tool (rat) might still work. Seems to need work to get it running on FreeBSD according to their website but it used to work on FreeBSD. Again, it was over ten years ago I used this. It seems to live here nowadays: http://mediatools.cs.ucl.ac.uk/nets/mmedia/wiki/RatWiki#RobustAudioToolRAT Quotes: RAT require no special features for point-to-point communication, just a network connection and a soundcard. For multiparty conferencing RAT uses IP multicast and therefore all participants must reside on a multicast capable network. ... RAT is a cross platform tool which is now available for Linux and WinXP. In the past it was also maintained for use a variety of operating systems including: FreeBSD, HP-UX, IRIX, NetBSD, Solaris, SunOS, and Windows 95/NT. Users are welcome to test and contribute code for any of these other OSes. Please let us know or contribute to the wiki. -- http://hack.org/mc/ Use plain text e-mail, please. HTML messages silently dropped. OpenPGP welcome, 0xE4C92FA5. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Need an audio multicasting solution
Alejandro Imass wrote: I need a solution to read sound from a soundcard (/dev/dsp) and multicast it into the network, for the multicast audio stream to be played on FreeBSD, Linux and Windows workstations. No sophisticated codecs needed, plain PCM would do. Can you advise something? I know that in theory there are many ways to implement this, but I am especially interested in personal first-hand experience, success stories or good white papers. Please no lmgtfu-type replies. Thanks very much in advance. I doubt people in this list are the lmgtfu type! I use Icecast on FBSD and it works great. Alejandro, correct me if I am wrong but AFAIK Icecast works with mp3 files. Can it really read audio from /dev/dsp? I don't need mp3, I would prefer to multicast simple PCM data. Even 8 bit PCM (64 Kbit/s) would do. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:suda...@sibptus.tomsk.ru ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Need an audio multicasting solution
Alejandro Imass wrote: I need a solution to read sound from a soundcard (/dev/dsp) and multicast it into the network, for the multicast audio stream to be played on FreeBSD, Linux and Windows workstations. No sophisticated codecs needed, plain PCM would do. Can you advise something? I know that in theory there are many ways to implement this, but I am especially interested in personal first-hand experience, success stories or good white papers. Please no lmgtfu-type replies. Thanks very much in advance. I doubt people in this list are the lmgtfu type! I use Icecast on FBSD and it works great. A quick look at Icecast showed that it does not support multicast either. It this true? If so, Icecast is completely useless for my scenario. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:suda...@sibptus.tomsk.ru ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Need an audio multicasting solution
Colleagues, I need a solution to read sound from a soundcard (/dev/dsp) and multicast it into the network, for the multicast audio stream to be played on FreeBSD, Linux and Windows workstations. No sophisticated codecs needed, plain PCM would do. Can you advise something? I know that in theory there are many ways to implement this, but I am especially interested in personal first-hand experience, success stories or good white papers. Please no lmgtfu-type replies. Thanks very much in advance. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:suda...@sibptus.tomsk.ru ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Need an audio multicasting solution
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Victor Sudakov v...@mpeks.tomsk.su wrote: Colleagues, I need a solution to read sound from a soundcard (/dev/dsp) and multicast it into the network, for the multicast audio stream to be played on FreeBSD, Linux and Windows workstations. No sophisticated codecs needed, plain PCM would do. Can you advise something? I know that in theory there are many ways to implement this, but I am especially interested in personal first-hand experience, success stories or good white papers. Please no lmgtfu-type replies. Thanks very much in advance. I doubt people in this list are the lmgtfu type! I use Icecast on FBSD and it works great. For the client though we use Ubuntu with idjc and Jack. Probably Jack works well on FBSD (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/audio/jack_mixer/) and you could run everything on a single node, but from my experience with Jack on Linux, it probably ain't gonna be easy. Nevertheless, the _usual_ way is having your *cast daemon on a server with ample bandwidth and the client(s) is separate node. For us, the Icecast FBSD server + idjc/Jack on Linux is a great combination but YMMV. Regards, -- Alejandro Imass -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:suda...@sibptus.tomsk.ru ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
