Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-15 Thread Danny Pansters
On Thursday 15 March 2007 06:59:36 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  I think it needs to be clarified that the reason /why/ the image of
  Beastie is so apt to represent a Daemon is only /because/ it LOOKS
  like a daemon/devil.

 How do ye know what thee Angel of the Bottomless Pit looks like?  Do
 ye regularly meet with the Antichrist?

Some people on this mailing list might argue that they regularly do ;-)

Couldn't resist. Cheers,

Dan
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RE: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-14 Thread takhoos

 What are the rules, in terms of using the FreeBSD Devil image to make  
 some stickers? 

Adam,
  You can purchase a seet of FreeBSD stickers from the FreeBSD mallthey 
look cool and cost $.50 per sheet

http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdsticker?id=5ABM9LTCmv_pc=100


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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-14 Thread Sunnz

Just looked it up in a dictionary:

daemon 1 |ˌdiːmən| (also daimon)
noun (in ancient Greek belief) a divinity or supernatural being of a
nature between gods and humans.

Yea I think we have just enough definitions... ~_~

2007/3/14, Nicole Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Old Ranger wrote:

  Believe it or not, I actually had an irate woman
 complain to me about having a
  devil image on our church website.  sheesh

 Nothing is more complete than the delusion
 that beauty equals goodness.

   - Tolstoy

 I think it needs to be clarified that beastie is
Not a devil.

 Beastie was aptly created to represent a Daemon.
 Simply correct them that it is not a devil or demon
but a Daemon.


From Wikipedia:

Many people equate the word daemon with the word
demon, implying some kind of Satanic connection
between UNIX and the underworld. This is an egregious
misunderstanding. Daemon is actually a much older form
of demon; daemons have no particular bias towards good
or evil, but rather serve to help define a person's
character or personality. The ancient Greeks' concept
of a personal daemon was similar to the modern concept
of a guardian angel --- eudaemonia is the state of
being helped or protected by a kindly spirit. As a
rule, UNIX systems seem to be infested with both
daemons and demons. (p403)


  Nicole


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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-14 Thread t nagu tundmatu

On 3/14/07, Sunnz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Just looked it up in a dictionary:

daemon 1 |ˌdiːmən| (also daimon)
noun (in ancient Greek belief) a divinity or supernatural being of a
nature between gods and humans.

Yea I think we have just enough definitions... ~_~




I think the problem is that this daemon has got tail and horns...
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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-14 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

- Original Message - 
From: Pieter de Goeje [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: Adam Gerety [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Devil Image


 Op dinsdag 13 maart 2007 20:34, schreef Jeff Rollin:
  On 13/03/07, Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but
   please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay
   away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their
   misconception is the last thing we want to do.
 
  Do you really think it'll make any difference to these people whether
  we call it a devil or a banana, once they see it?
 Well I don't think you'll be taken seriously when you call it a banana! :)


That depends on how long yer banana is and who yer talking to

Ted

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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-14 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

- Original Message - 
From: Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I think it needs to be clarified that the reason /why/ the image of
 Beastie is so apt to represent a Daemon is only /because/ it LOOKS
 like a daemon/devil. 

How do ye know what thee Angel of the Bottomless Pit looks like?  Do
ye regularly meet with the Antichrist?

Ted
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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-13 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:58:22PM -0500, Adam Gerety wrote:
 What are the rules, in terms of using the FreeBSD Devil image to make  
 some stickers?  I am huge fan/supporter of FreeBSD and want a sticker  
 that is just the Devil to put on my computers.  Not planning to sell  
 them, though it might make a nice avenue for financial contribution  
 to the effort.

http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/copyright.html
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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-13 Thread Adam Gerety

Perfect, thank you very much.

On Mar 13, 2007, at 1:34 PM, Jonathan Chen wrote:


On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:58:22PM -0500, Adam Gerety wrote:

What are the rules, in terms of using the FreeBSD Devil image to make
some stickers?  I am huge fan/supporter of FreeBSD and want a sticker
that is just the Devil to put on my computers.  Not planning to sell
them, though it might make a nice avenue for financial contribution
to the effort.


http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/copyright.html
--  
Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not  
necessarily
a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land,  
and it
could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC  
1925


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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-13 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin

On 3/13/07, Adam Gerety [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What are the rules, in terms of using the FreeBSD Devil image to make
some stickers?  I am huge fan/supporter of FreeBSD and want a sticker
that is just the Devil to put on my computers.  Not planning to sell
them, though it might make a nice avenue for financial contribution
to the effort.


Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but
please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay
away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their
misconception is the last thing we want to do.

Thanks!
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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-13 Thread Jeff Rollin

On 13/03/07, Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but
please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay
away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their
misconception is the last thing we want to do.


Do you really think it'll make any difference to these people whether
we call it a devil or a banana, once they see it?

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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-13 Thread Adam Gerety

Yes, I apologize for the reference!

On Mar 13, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:


On 3/13/07, Adam Gerety [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What are the rules, in terms of using the FreeBSD Devil image to make
some stickers?  I am huge fan/supporter of FreeBSD and want a sticker
that is just the Devil to put on my computers.  Not planning to sell
them, though it might make a nice avenue for financial contribution
to the effort.


Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but
please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay
away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their
misconception is the last thing we want to do.

Thanks!


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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-13 Thread Pieter de Goeje
Op dinsdag 13 maart 2007 20:34, schreef Jeff Rollin:
 On 13/03/07, Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but
  please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay
  away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their
  misconception is the last thing we want to do.

 Do you really think it'll make any difference to these people whether
 we call it a devil or a banana, once they see it?
Well I don't think you'll be taken seriously when you call it a banana! :)

Cheers,
Pieter de Goeje
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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-13 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin

On 3/13/07, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 13/03/07, Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but
 please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay
 away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their
 misconception is the last thing we want to do.

Do you really think it'll make any difference to these people whether
we call it a devil or a banana, once they see it?


No, but from now on google will return an extra hit to
freebsd devil queries...
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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-13 Thread Old Ranger
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 13:34, Jeff Rollin wrote:
 On 13/03/07, Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but
  please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay
  away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their
  misconception is the last thing we want to do.

 Do you really think it'll make any difference to these people whether
 we call it a devil or a banana, once they see it?
Believe it or not, I actually had an irate woman complain to me about having a 
devil image on our church website.  sheesh

Rev. Z. Wade Hampton
Twin Bridges, MT

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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-13 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Pieter de Goeje wrote:

Op dinsdag 13 maart 2007 20:34, schreef Jeff Rollin:

On 13/03/07, Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but
please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay
away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their
misconception is the last thing we want to do.



Do you really think it'll make any difference to these people whether
we call it a devil or a banana, once they see it?



Well I don't think you'll be taken seriously when you call it a banana! :)



Who owns /COPYRIGHT on the FreeBSD Banana Logo, anyway?  I'd like to 
use it on some stickers 


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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-13 Thread NetOps Center

Old Ranger wrote:

On Tuesday 13 March 2007 13:34, Jeff Rollin wrote:

On 13/03/07, Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Our beastie may be a bit devilish in some respects, but
please don't call him just a devil. Some people stay
away from FreeBSD for religious reasons. Feeding their
misconception is the last thing we want to do.

Do you really think it'll make any difference to these people whether
we call it a devil or a banana, once they see it?
Believe it or not, I actually had an irate woman complain to me about having a 
devil image on our church website.  sheesh


Rev. Z. Wade Hampton
Twin Bridges, MT




Aloha Beastie Supporters,


I always thought it was a Daemon not a Devil.  Anyway if you really 
want to drive the critics nuts send them to our website and scroll to 
the bottom. We have a Wahine ( Hawaiian Female) daemon as well as 
Beastie on there.


http://hawaiidakine.com



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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-13 Thread rloefgren

On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Old Ranger wrote:


Believe it or not, I actually had an irate woman complain to me about having a
devil image on our church website.  sheesh


Nothing is more complete than the delusion
that beauty equals goodness.

- Tolstoy


r
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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-13 Thread Nicole Harrington
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Old Ranger wrote:
 
  Believe it or not, I actually had an irate woman
 complain to me about having a
  devil image on our church website.  sheesh
 
 Nothing is more complete than the delusion
 that beauty equals goodness.
 
   - Tolstoy

 I think it needs to be clarified that beastie is
Not a devil. 

 Beastie was aptly created to represent a Daemon. 
 Simply correct them that it is not a devil or demon
but a Daemon.
 

From Wikipedia:

Many people equate the word daemon with the word
demon, implying some kind of Satanic connection
between UNIX and the underworld. This is an egregious
misunderstanding. Daemon is actually a much older form
of demon; daemons have no particular bias towards good
or evil, but rather serve to help define a person's
character or personality. The ancient Greeks' concept
of a personal daemon was similar to the modern concept
of a guardian angel --- eudaemonia is the state of
being helped or protected by a kindly spirit. As a
rule, UNIX systems seem to be infested with both
daemons and demons. (p403)


  Nicole


The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away
 -- Anon
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Re: FreeBSD Devil Image

2007-03-13 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:58:22PM -0500, Adam Gerety wrote:

 What are the rules, in terms of using the FreeBSD Devil image to make  
 some stickers?  I am huge fan/supporter of FreeBSD and want a sticker  
 that is just the Devil to put on my computers.  Not planning to sell  
 them, though it might make a nice avenue for financial contribution  
 to the effort.

First of all, it is not a devil.  It is a daemon.  Look that up in
an online dict.

Second, the information on copyright and use has prominent links
on the FreeBSD web page.

jerry

 
 Thank you for your time and reply,
 - Adam Gerety
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