Re: FreeBSD Release Question
In a message dated 10/11/04 7:02:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope you're not betting your business on these questions, because the reality is that 1) they're not very good questions and 2) the people who are answering them can't really know the answers. stable requires time, and since 5.2.1 and 5.3 are substantially different, I can't see how one can predict the level of stability a year from now. Following this logic any thing can be claimed to not be stable. -- uh, like yeah thats correct. Linux comes to mind ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Release Question
In a message dated 10/9/04 6:25:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x performance will be optimized and be comparable to today's 4.x stable versions ? 5.3 is supposed to be stable, and it's expected to be on part with 4.x performance, and it's supposed to release before the end of the month. From what I've seen and heard, it looks like all that is going to happen. 2. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x will be as stable as today's 4.x released versions ? Yes. I hope you're not betting your business on these questions, because the reality is that 1) they're not very good questions and 2) the people who are answering them can't really know the answers. stable requires time, and since 5.2.1 and 5.3 are substantially different, I can't see how one can predict the level of stability a year from now. You also didnt mention what your project is, so how can you expect anyone to comment on performance or stability? If you're developing a CD duplicator the answer is likely much different than if you are developing a networking product. If you can, do it on 4.x and move it to 5.x when you determine that it meets your needs. Don't bet the farm on the hopes and expectations of others. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD Release Question
While TM4525's points are valid even FreeBSD 5.2.1 is pretty stable (insert sual disclaimer about using non -stable version here) and I use it over 4 in many circumstances. FreeBSD 5 will rapidly become the standard and if you are targeting your application for introduction in late 2005 at a minimum I would plan on shipping it with FreeBSD 5 so considering the changes in FreeBSD 5 in your design/programming stage would be very valuable. I have been testing FreeBSD 5 since 5 was first released and more than likely will be rolling most my boxes to 5.3 a few weeks after it is released. Of course you should evaluate both 4 and 5 to see if they meet your needs in a test environment. IMHO FreeBSD 5.3 is far beyond the hopes of others and is poised to be quite good especially by your release time. , Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 8:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD Release Question In a message dated 10/9/04 6:25:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x performance will be optimized and be comparable to today's 4.x stable versions ? 5.3 is supposed to be stable, and it's expected to be on part with 4.x performance, and it's supposed to release before the end of the month. From what I've seen and heard, it looks like all that is going to happen. 2. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x will be as stable as today's 4.x released versions ? Yes. I hope you're not betting your business on these questions, because the reality is that 1) they're not very good questions and 2) the people who are answering them can't really know the answers. stable requires time, and since 5.2.1 and 5.3 are substantially different, I can't see how one can predict the level of stability a year from now. You also didnt mention what your project is, so how can you expect anyone to comment on performance or stability? If you're developing a CD duplicator the answer is likely much different than if you are developing a networking product. If you can, do it on 4.x and move it to 5.x when you determine that it meets your needs. Don't bet the farm on the hopes and expectations of others. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Release Question
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:20:40 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/9/04 6:25:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x performance will be optimized and be comparable to today's 4.x stable versions ? 5.3 is supposed to be stable, and it's expected to be on part with 4.x performance, and it's supposed to release before the end of the month. From what I've seen and heard, it looks like all that is going to happen. 2. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x will be as stable as today's 4.x released versions ? Yes. I hope you're not betting your business on these questions, because the reality is that 1) they're not very good questions and 2) the people who are answering them can't really know the answers. stable requires time, and since 5.2.1 and 5.3 are substantially different, I can't see how one can predict the level of stability a year from now. Following this logic any thing can be claimed to not be stable. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Release Question
Balakumar Velmurugan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We are starting development on a new project that would go production in the fall of 2005. I have been evaluating Release 4.x and 5.x branches for the suitability. Our target platform is AMD64 and AMD32 uni-processor systems. We like most of 5.x features except for its performance and conerns about the availability of a STABLE version in our time window, and I would like your opinion to choose the right FreeBSD version tree to start the development right now. BTW, we dont have any plans to run on SMP architecture, our target platform will always be uni-processor based. Questions are, 1. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x performance will be optimized and be comparable to today's 4.x stable versions ? 5.3 is supposed to be stable, and it's expected to be on part with 4.x performance, and it's supposed to release before the end of the month. From what I've seen and heard, it looks like all that is going to happen. 2. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x will be as stable as today's 4.x released versions ? Yes. 3. What is the most architecturally optimized FreeBSD version if he primary application is network services, IP forwarding and various TCP/UDP services ? 5 and 4 will probably be about the same come next year. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Release Question
On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 15:07:00 -0700 Balakumar Velmurugan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We are starting development on a new project that would go production in the fall of 2005. I have been evaluating Release 4.x and 5.x branches for the suitability. Our target platform is AMD64 and AMD32 uni-processor systems. We like most of 5.x features except for its performance and conerns about the availability of a STABLE version in our time window, and I would like your opinion to choose the right FreeBSD version tree to start the development right now. BTW, we dont have any plans to run on SMP architecture, our target platform will always be uni-processor based. Questions are, 1. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x performance will be optimized and be comparable to today's 4.x stable versions ? Which did you test? Did you turn debugging and ect off? Tried 5.3beta7 yet? 2. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x will be as stable as today's 4.x released versions ? http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/schedule.html 3. What is the most architecturally optimized FreeBSD version if he primary application is network services, IP forwarding and various TCP/UDP services ? 4. What is the most architecturally optimized FreeBSD version if he primary application is network services, IP forwarding and various TCP/UDP services ? Not tried forwarding yet on 5x, but for TCP/UDP services, not speed problems with them on my box. Wait a bit till 5.3 is released and then bench market it after optimizing it. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Release Question
Vulpes Velox wrote: On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 15:07:00 -0700 Balakumar Velmurugan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We are starting development on a new project that would go production in the fall of 2005. I have been evaluating Release 4.x and 5.x branches for the suitability. Our target platform is AMD64 and AMD32 uni-processor systems. We like most of 5.x features except for its performance and conerns about the availability of a STABLE version in our time window, and I would like your opinion to choose the right FreeBSD version tree to start the development right now. BTW, we dont have any plans to run on SMP architecture, our target platform will always be uni-processor based. Questions are, 1. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x performance will be optimized and be comparable to today's 4.x stable versions ? Which did you test? Did you turn debugging and ect off? Tried 5.3beta7 yet? I tried 5.2.1 and havent tried the beta7, yet. Can you tell me, what is the release tag for beta7 ?. RELENG_5_3_BETA7 didnt work for me !! Thanks for your pointers. 2. By Sep 2005, do you think 5.x will be as stable as today's 4.x released versions ? http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/schedule.html 3. What is the most architecturally optimized FreeBSD version if he primary application is network services, IP forwarding and various TCP/UDP services ? 4. What is the most architecturally optimized FreeBSD version if he primary application is network services, IP forwarding and various TCP/UDP services ? Not tried forwarding yet on 5x, but for TCP/UDP services, not speed problems with them on my box. Wait a bit till 5.3 is released and then bench market it after optimizing it. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
