On Mon, 7 Feb 2005, markzero wrote:
These switches should technically not be able to work without a power
supply but evidently they work just fine. I don't question the
arrangement, I just observe it from across the room. We get along fine.
Many KVMs draw power from the mouse/keyboard
* Louis LeBlanc [2005-02-07 14:57 -0500]
I'm coming into this thread a bit late, but if you go to
:
You'll see a neat little gadget that will tell you exactly what your
computers electrical usage is.
I'm not saying that leaving your computer on 24/7 consumes little power.
I'm just
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 11:12:19AM +0100, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote:
* Louis LeBlanc [2005-02-07 14:57 -0500]
I'm coming into this thread a bit late, but if you go to
:
You'll see a neat little gadget that will tell you exactly what your
computers electrical usage is.
I'm
On 8 Feb 2005, at 10:12, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote:
In this setup, you need to warm up your house somehow. Since *all*
energy
in the end turns to thermic energy (elementary physics), the route this
energy takes from moving electrons to heats is of little interest (when
you're just looking to
* Adam McMaster [2005-02-08 14:00 -]
It's not really the case that all the energy becomes heat, since the
computer also has moving parts and generates sound (a *lot* of sound if
it's anything like mine). Most of the energy going into a computer
probably does become heat in the
* Erik Trulsson [2005-02-08 11:17 +0100]
Not necessarily true. It was my message you originally replied to, and
the apartment where I live has central heating, such that the heating
is included in teh rent, and does not show up on the electricity bill
(and I don't think the heating
* Erik Trulsson [2005-02-05 23:55 +0100]
Also keep in mind that if you leave the computer running all the time
it will show up on your electricity bill, so if you wish to save power
you should shut down your computer over night.
Given that your house needs to be warmed up (a presumption I
* Erik Trulsson [2005-02-05 23:55 +0100]
Also keep in mind that if you leave the computer running all the time
it will show up on your electricity bill, so if you wish to save power
you should shut down your computer over night.
Given that your house needs to be warmed up (a
On Feb 7, 2005, at 3:34 AM, markzero wrote:
* Erik Trulsson [2005-02-05 23:55 +0100]
Also keep in mind that if you leave the computer running all the
time
it will show up on your electricity bill, so if you wish to save
power
you should shut down your computer over night.
Given that your
markzero writes:
m Actually, I've found that five machines, each with two disks, onboard
m graphics and sound, an average 700mhz P3 with a 250w power supply
m haven't really made a dent on my electricity bill.
My bills have been unusually high lately and it prompted me to do some
calculation to
Since the computers are necessary for both work and play, I consider
running them to be electricity wisely used. I do turn the monitors off
when I'm not home, but since they are all flat panels now, that
represents only a trivial amount of electricity.
That reminds me:
Please also consider
Since the computers are necessary for both work and play, I consider
running them to be electricity wisely used. I do turn the monitors off
when I'm not home, but since they are all flat panels now, that
represents only a trivial amount of electricity.
That reminds me:
Please also
On 02/07/05 09:21 AM, Svein Halvor Halvorsen sat at the `puter and typed:
* Erik Trulsson [2005-02-05 23:55 +0100]
Also keep in mind that if you leave the computer running all the time
it will show up on your electricity bill, so if you wish to save power
you should shut down your
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 12:00:01PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
On Saturday, 5 February 2005 at 17:45:25 -0500, Peterhin wrote:
Is it better to leave a computer (a stand alone) running continuously or
is it OK to shut it down at the end of the day.?
I remember years ago someone
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Subject: Leaving a Computer Running ?
Is it better to leave a computer (a stand alone) running
continuously
Kenneth Jennings writes:
KJ Ah. I bet there are more than a few people here who can repeat a
KJ horror story about what happened when a long running server was shut
KJ down.
Yes, I'm one of them. Many people believe that if a fan or disk drive
is showing signs of impending failure, it should be
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
TM In a clean room or positive pressure network room, where there is
TM an extremely low level of dust, off-the-shelf computer fans will
TM last many years longer than fans in a typical home PC.
What about filters? On my current FreeBSD server (not in a clean room,
My FreeBSD server runs continuously because it has to: it holds my Web
site, my e-mail server, my DNS server, my NTP server, etc. The other
machines run continuously because it's more convenient and because I
worry about machines not coming back up again if I power-cycle them.
my machines
On Sunday 06 February 2005 01:30, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
If you turn it off, you should check /etc/crontab and decide
when to perform the nightly maintenance.
I turn my computer off over night so I can sleep. This would mean missing the
cron stuff but since most of it is done by periodic, I
On Sunday 06 February 2005 12:24, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
TM In a clean room or positive pressure network room, where there is
TM an extremely low level of dust, off-the-shelf computer fans will
TM last many years longer than fans in a typical home PC.
What about
Xian writes:
X I turn my computer off over night so I can sleep.
You're never a true system administrator until you can sleep surrounded
by the sound of fans and disk drives. Extra points if you can sleep
amid racks of datasets (less and less common these days).
--
Anthony
Mark Rowlands writes:
MR I use my gfs tights... christ... I hope she's not subscribed here as
MR well
What type of material and weave? Tights = stockings? Hmm. I never
thought of that--by gosh, it might work!
MR yup.. but only on old scsi drives
Unfortunately, my older machine has
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 02:45:58PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Mark Rowlands writes:
MR I use my gfs tights... christ... I hope she's not subscribed here as
MR well
What type of material and weave? Tights = stockings? Hmm. I never
thought of that--by gosh, it might work!
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Subject: Re: Leaving a Computer Running ?
Ted Mittelstaedt writes:
TM In a clean room or positive
On Sunday 06 February 2005 14:01, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
TM For PC's left on for long periods, they have a different problem
TM because disk drives that spin at full speed continuiously (as
TM server drives do, servers have power saving disabled on their
TM drives of course for obvious
Xian writes:
X I have an archaic thing thing running a small web server and it is built a
X damn site better than most other computers I've seen. It has and old SCSI
X drive that's built like a brick.
What brand? My old HP Vectra is beautifully built, but you don't really
notice it until you
Xian writes:
X I turn my computer off over night so I can sleep.
You're never a true system administrator until you can sleep surrounded
by the sound of fans and disk drives. Extra points if you can sleep
amid racks of datasets (less and less common these days).
--
Anthony
Peterhin wrote:
Is it better to leave a computer (a stand alone) running continuously or
is it OK to shut it down at the end of the day.?
I remember years ago someone mentioned that it is better for the
circuitry to leave it running.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated
This question is
On 5 Feb 2005, at 22:45, Peterhin wrote:
Is it better to leave a computer (a stand alone) running continuously
or
is it OK to shut it down at the end of the day.?
I remember years ago someone mentioned that it is better for the
circuitry to leave it running.
Any thoughts would be greatly
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 05:45:25PM -0500, Peterhin wrote:
Is it better to leave a computer (a stand alone) running continuously or
is it OK to shut it down at the end of the day.?
I remember years ago someone mentioned that it is better for the
circuitry to leave it running.
Any thoughts
Peterhin writes:
P Is it better to leave a computer (a stand alone) running continuously or
P is it OK to shut it down at the end of the day.?
An age-old debate.
Advantages of leaving the computer running:
- Electronic components are not subject to thermal stress of start-up
and shutdown. Not
Chris writes:
C This question is better served on Google. BTW - if you're advanced
C enough to install and live with FreeBSD, you ought to know the answer to
C that one.
There isn't any fixed answer to that question.
Of course, if you are running FreeBSD as a server, then normally it has
to be
On Saturday, 5 February 2005 at 17:45:25 -0500, Peterhin wrote:
Is it better to leave a computer (a stand alone) running continuously or
is it OK to shut it down at the end of the day.?
I remember years ago someone mentioned that it is better for the
circuitry to leave it running.
Any
On Saturday 05 February 2005 18:13, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Peterhin writes:
[snip]
- Moving parts are not subjected to thermal and mechanical stresses of
starting and stopping. For example, disk drives and fans are under less
stress during continuous running than they are at the moment when
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