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Note that it also took quite a bit
OK, first of all this thread is not worthwhile to people in this forum.
I'm sorry for having initially added to the noise, but I do want to try
to salvage something useful from this. If your request is sincere, then
please hear me out.
On Friday 08 October 2004 07:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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dang, how long is this thread gonna go on?
As long as you keep posting
In a message dated 10/9/04 1:15:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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dang, how long is this thread gonna go on? Is it that important? I see
a lot of good questions and equally good answers on this list, but I
think this particular thread is starting to stoop beneath us all...
In a message dated 10/9/04 12:56:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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I just hope that pounding packets through a socket and
timing mySQL selects aren't the entirety of OUR team's arsenal.
And it's not just this sentence although this is one of the most
blatent. You are
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In a message dated 10/9/04 12:56:40 AM
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Note that it also took quite a bit a beating to get them to admit that
1) They dont know the answer to the Subject
On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 01:07:17PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 10/9/04 12:56:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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I just hope that pounding packets through a socket and
timing mySQL selects aren't the entirety of OUR team's arsenal.
And it's not
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Subject: Re: What version of FBSD does Yahoo run?
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 05:35:18PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED
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Here is a thought.
Why would
In a message dated 10/8/04 2:42:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Here is a thought.
Why would they be running a pre-production release as a production
server
I have no idea what yahoo does, but I think it would be irrespondsible
for them to attempt using 5.x on a
In a message dated 10/8/04 2:37:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Kris and all,
Sorry for the top post but would you quit feeding the trolls?
Ted Mittelstaedt
PS: TM, shut up and post some benchmarks proving your side of
the argument. Not that we would believe them but
On Oct 8, 2004, at 11:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You guys are the ones making the claims that 5.3 is going to be
so great. I just wonder how you come to that conclusion if you don't
have any definitive tests. I dont have a release to test, so when its
done
I'll test it.
I think it sums it
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 11:39:05PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
: I'm sure that Yahoo, like any large commercial enterprise, has a whole
: host of specific customizations that they have applied to FreeBSD,
: and their version of FreeBSD doesen't look like what we have, at least not
: where the
On Oct 8, 2004, at 8:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You must be a democrat Kris, because you always spin what people say
in a way such that is completely wrong when you say it. I said the
99% of us
If there was any doubt in my mind that TM4525 was a troll, he's just
removed it.
I think it's
Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 11:39:05PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
: I'm sure that Yahoo, like any large commercial enterprise, has a whole
: host of specific customizations that they have applied to FreeBSD,
: and their version of FreeBSD doesen't look like what we have,
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 03:44:13PM +0200, Remko Lodder wrote:
: Apart from that: Why do you actually want to know? It's better not to
: know the exact version since others might abuse that information and
: hack into the company. That does not feel right, well not with me :-).
I was just
On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 11:45:09AM -0500, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
: Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
:
: On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 11:39:05PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
: : I'm sure that Yahoo, like any large commercial enterprise, has a whole
: : host of specific customizations that they
Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 11:45:09AM -0500, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
: Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
:
: On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 11:39:05PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
: : I'm sure that Yahoo, like any large commercial enterprise, has a whole
: : host of
On Friday 08 October 2004 08:54 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You guys are the ones making the claims that 5.3 is going to be
so great. I just wonder how you come to that conclusion if you
don't have any definitive tests. I dont have a release to test, so
when its done I'll test it.
Why
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You guys are the ones making the claims that 5.3 is going to be
so great. I just wonder how you come to that conclusion if you don't
have any definitive tests. I dont have a release to test, so when its done
I'll test it.
6.0 is much, much better. And try downloading a
On Friday 08 October 2004 16:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A very simple request - I do respect peoples right to state their point of
view - but there FreeBSD has through its entire life spam aimed (at least for
the time I have been following the delvelopment - and that goes far longer
back
On Friday 08 October 2004 16:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A very simple request - I do respect peoples right to state their point of
view - but there FreeBSD has through its entire life spam aimed (at least for
the time I have been following the delvelopment - and that goes far longer
In a message dated 10/8/04 2:25:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You guys are the ones making the claims that 5.3 is going to be
so great. I just wonder how you come to that conclusion if you
don't have any definitive tests. I dont have a release to test, so
when its
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In a message dated 10/6/04 6:47:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 04:42:24PM -0400, Bigelow, Andrea L. wrote:
Where's the documentation? I'd like to see this for myself.
There is none, because Mr./Ms. TM4525 is making up his/her facts to
suit their
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 09:55:37AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 10/6/04 6:47:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 04:42:24PM -0400, Bigelow, Andrea L. wrote:
Where's the documentation? I'd like to see this for myself.
There
Can anyone speak to performance improvement if the debug flags are removed?
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Subject: Re: What version of FBSD does
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 10:04:59AM -0400, Bigelow, Andrea L. wrote:
Can anyone speak to performance improvement if the debug flags are removed?
Well, it's vast :) 5.3 (i.e. the RELENG_5 branch) has them turned off
already in preparation for the release.
Kris
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Subject: Re: What version of FBSD does Yahoo run?
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 10:04:59AM
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 07:04:10AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 09:55:37AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 10/6/04 6:47:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 04:42:24PM -0400, Bigelow, Andrea L. wrote:
: What version of FBSD does Yahoo run?
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 10:04:59AM -0400, Bigelow, Andrea L. wrote:
Can anyone speak to performance improvement if the debug flags are
removed?
Well, it's vast :) 5.3 (i.e. the RELENG_5 branch) has them turned off
already in preparation
In a message dated 10/7/04 10:17:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, obscurity Kris
writes:
Well, it's vast :)
Kris
We're waiting..5.3 is in beta and ready for your tests. Other benchmarks
show very good results compared to 4.x.
Kris
--
Quite a bunch of
In a message dated 10/7/04 1:15:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:41:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 10/7/04 10:17:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, obscurity
Kris
writes:
Well, it's vast :)
Kris
We're waiting..5.3 is in
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 02:10:55PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:41:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 10/7/04 10:17:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, obscurity
At 11:15 AM -0700 10/7/04, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
why don't you post some of these impressive benchmarks to
substantiate your seemingly flimsy position? On a single
processor system please, for the 99% of us who don't use
SMP. Hopefully
In a message dated 10/7/04 4:06:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Here's one benchmark, showing UDP packet/second generation
rate from userland on a dual xeon machine under various
target loads:
Desired Optimal 5.x-UP 5.x-SMP 4.x-UP 4.x-SMP
5
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 04:05:21PM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
But when he asked for a pointer or reference, I was expecting
to see a URL which pointed to some additional benchmarks. I did
not notice any URL's in any of your replies in this thread. Did
you think that you had included a
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 05:35:18PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Here's one benchmark, showing UDP packet/second generation
rate from userland on a dual xeon machine under various
target loads:
On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 09:07:44AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
: On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 05:01:32PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
:
: I would expect they are running 4.x, but does anyone know if they have
: migrated any production boxes to 5.x? Are they contributing any code to
: either
Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 09:07:44AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
: On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 05:01:32PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
:
: I would expect they are running 4.x, but does anyone know if they have
: migrated any production boxes to 5.x? Are they
Gerard Samuel wrote:
Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 09:07:44AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
: On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 05:01:32PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
: : I would expect they are running 4.x, but does anyone know if
they have
: migrated any production boxes to 5.x?
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 09:32:27AM -0400, Gerard Samuel wrote:
: Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
: On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 09:07:44AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
: : On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 05:01:32PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
: :
: : I would expect they are running 4.x, but does anyone know
Considering that its been well documented and admitted that 5.x is 1/3 the
speed of 4.x at this point, do you really think they've migrated production
boxes?
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Where's the documentation? I'd like to see this for myself.
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Considering that its
Bigelow, Andrea L. wrote:
Where's the documentation? I'd like to see this for myself.
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Considering that its been well documented and admitted that 5.x is 1/3 the
speed of 4.x at this point, do you really think they've migrated
Considering that its been well documented and admitted that 5.x is 1/3 the
speed of 4.x at this point, do you really think they've migrated production
boxes?
Most likely this is in reference to a few lines in /usr/src/UPDATING,
stating that all of the debug features are turned on by default in
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 04:42:24PM -0400, Bigelow, Andrea L. wrote:
Where's the documentation? I'd like to see this for myself.
There is none, because Mr./Ms. TM4525 is making up his/her facts to
suit their assertion. The last time this claim was made it was
refuted and TM4525 promised to go
On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 05:01:32PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
I would expect they are running 4.x, but does anyone know if they have
migrated any production boxes to 5.x? Are they contributing any code to
either branch?
Yes, a number of committers work for Yahoo.
kris
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