Re: Where can I find a list of the cvsup tags for ports?
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 14:31, stan wrote: I have a system that I have removed all teh non English language port directories, and I run a cvsup _with_ a refuse file for these. Then I did a portdb -Uu. This resulted in a fair number of complaints, but when I ran portupgrade -aRr it hapilly took of running. Granted this sytem only has 19 ports installed. But it seems to work. Am I missing somehting hrere? Nope. I've been doing that too. I have non-english and unused ports commented out in my ports-supfile (ports-all commented out and individual ports are in), and also listed non-language ports in refuse. portupgrade runs fine. portdb complaints with a ton of error messages about dependencies missing etc, but all is well. The only gotcha I encountered is when new ports branches are added (i.e. port-dns). Since I list specific ports in my supfile, new ports are not caught automatically, which means the supfile needs occasional maintenance. That's about it. And you're right, it's a space saver on small drives :) Cheers, Frank signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Where can I find a list of the cvsup tags for ports?
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 06:36:59PM -0600, Frank Knobbe wrote: On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 14:31, stan wrote: I have a system that I have removed all teh non English language port directories, and I run a cvsup _with_ a refuse file for these. Then I did a portdb -Uu. This resulted in a fair number of complaints, but when I ran portupgrade -aRr it hapilly took of running. Granted this sytem only has 19 ports installed. But it seems to work. Am I missing somehting hrere? Nope. I've been doing that too. I have non-english and unused ports commented out in my ports-supfile (ports-all commented out and individual ports are in), and also listed non-language ports in refuse. portupgrade runs fine. portdb complaints with a ton of error messages about dependencies missing etc, but all is well. The only gotcha I encountered is when new ports branches are added (i.e. port-dns). Since I list specific ports in my supfile, new ports are not caught automatically, which means the supfile needs occasional maintenance. That's about it. And you're right, it's a space saver on small drives :) Thanks for the confirmation that it works on a more fully populated machine. -- They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where can I find a list of the cvsup tags for ports?
stan wrote: I want to omit some of the ports from my cvsup run. I've always used the ports-all tag, but these days there a a good many non English language ports that only use space on my disks. I would like to limit the collections. Probably by excluding certain ports subtags, rather than explicitly including the ones I want, as I think this would be more robust relative to future additions. Where can I find a list? And what's the syntax of the exclude statement? RTFM @ http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html and RTFM @ http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=cvsupapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+5.2-RELEASE+and+Portsformat=html (the part about the 'refuse' file) --roop ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where can I find a list of the cvsup tags for ports?
You can use the refuse file to omit branches. I've attached my cvsupfile and my refuse file to give you an idea as to how this works. I placed my cvsupfile in /usr/local/etc and the refuse file goes in /user/local/etc/sup. I then call cvsup -g -L 2 /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile. The directory locations are based on the settings within the cvsupfile. -Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stan Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 8:21 AM To: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Where can I find a list of the cvsup tags for ports? I want to omit some of the ports from my cvsup run. I've always used the ports-all tag, but these days there a a good many non English language ports that only use space on my disks. I would like to limit the collections. Probably by excluding certain ports subtags, rather than explicitly including the ones I want, as I think this would be more robust relative to future additions. Where can I find a list? And what's the syntax of the exclude statement? -- They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] refuse Description: Binary data cvsupfile Description: Binary data ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where can I find a list of the cvsup tags for ports?
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 07:42 am, Randy Grafton wrote: You can use the refuse file to omit branches. I've attached my cvsupfile and my refuse file to give you an idea as to how this works. I placed my cvsupfile in /usr/local/etc and the refuse file goes in /user/local/etc/sup. I then call cvsup -g -L 2 /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile. The directory locations are based on the settings within the cvsupfile. The problem is that when you add this refuses, you can no longer use portupgrade because building INDEX will most likely fail and the resulting INDEX.db will be close to useless. Kent -Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stan Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 8:21 AM To: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Where can I find a list of the cvsup tags for ports? I want to omit some of the ports from my cvsup run. I've always used the ports-all tag, but these days there a a good many non English language ports that only use space on my disks. I would like to limit the collections. Probably by excluding certain ports subtags, rather than explicitly including the ones I want, as I think this would be more robust relative to future additions. Where can I find a list? And what's the syntax of the exclude statement? -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where can I find a list of the cvsup tags for ports?
On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 08:48:06AM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote: On Wednesday 04 February 2004 07:42 am, Randy Grafton wrote: You can use the refuse file to omit branches. I've attached my cvsupfile and my refuse file to give you an idea as to how this works. I placed my cvsupfile in /usr/local/etc and the refuse file goes in /user/local/etc/sup. I then call cvsup -g -L 2 /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile. The directory locations are based on the settings within the cvsupfile. The problem is that when you add this refuses, you can no longer use portupgrade because building INDEX will most likely fail and the resulting INDEX.db will be close to useless. ARGH! So I have to use up (albiet not a huge amount) of disk space holding these unwanted ports, just to allow portupgrade (which I can't live wihtout) to work? I do a portdb -Uu after every cvsup run if that maters. -- They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where can I find a list of the cvsup tags for ports?
On Wednesday 04 February 2004 09:26 am, stan wrote: On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 08:48:06AM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote: On Wednesday 04 February 2004 07:42 am, Randy Grafton wrote: You can use the refuse file to omit branches. I've attached my cvsupfile and my refuse file to give you an idea as to how this works. I placed my cvsupfile in /usr/local/etc and the refuse file goes in /user/local/etc/sup. I then call cvsup -g -L 2 /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile. The directory locations are based on the settings within the cvsupfile. The problem is that when you add this refuses, you can no longer use portupgrade because building INDEX will most likely fail and the resulting INDEX.db will be close to useless. ARGH! So I have to use up (albiet not a huge amount) of disk space holding these unwanted ports, just to allow portupgrade (which I can't live wihtout) to work? I do a portdb -Uu after every cvsup run if that maters. I would probably think of something like If you want to fly with Eagles, you have to understand the price. Of cousre, flying with Eagles is following ports-all on a frequent basis. If you are content with it being updated every month or 2, you don't have any problems. When you refuse, you may leave behind an out of date link. If you delete the ports tree, you may produce 100's of messages from broken describes. You don't have to include everything on all machines, but you really do on the one that builds INDEX and INDEX.db. How many MBs are you going to save versus how much trouble you are going to create. The time and money to get around the problem is your choice. I think refusing a large number of ports is comparable to not building sendmail and then finding out that you aren't getting output from your cron jobs. I also think that adding a huge number of refuses and then bitching when INDEX doesn't build is a sufficient reason to add you to a twit list. I don't do that but I do think it is a sufficient reason. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where can I find a list of the cvsup tags for ports?
On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 08:48:06AM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote: On Wednesday 04 February 2004 07:42 am, Randy Grafton wrote: You can use the refuse file to omit branches. I've attached my cvsupfile and my refuse file to give you an idea as to how this works. I placed my cvsupfile in /usr/local/etc and the refuse file goes in /user/local/etc/sup. I then call cvsup -g -L 2 /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile. The directory locations are based on the settings within the cvsupfile. The problem is that when you add this refuses, you can no longer use portupgrade because building INDEX will most likely fail and the resulting INDEX.db will be close to useless. Well, a quick test seems to prove this theory false. I have a system that I have removed all teh non English language port directories, and I run a cvsup _with_ a refuse file for these. Then I did a portdb -Uu. This resulted in a fair number of complaints, but when I ran portupgrade -aRr it hapilly took of running. Granted this sytem only has 19 ports installed. But it seems to work. Am I missing somehting hrere? -- They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where can I find a list of the cvsup tags for ports?
On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 09:45:11AM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote: On Wednesday 04 February 2004 09:26 am, stan wrote: On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 08:48:06AM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote: On Wednesday 04 February 2004 07:42 am, Randy Grafton wrote: You can use the refuse file to omit branches. I've attached my cvsupfile and my refuse file to give you an idea as to how this works. I placed my cvsupfile in /usr/local/etc and the refuse file goes in /user/local/etc/sup. I then call cvsup -g -L 2 /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile. The directory locations are based on the settings within the cvsupfile. The problem is that when you add this refuses, you can no longer use portupgrade because building INDEX will most likely fail and the resulting INDEX.db will be close to useless. ARGH! So I have to use up (albiet not a huge amount) of disk space holding these unwanted ports, just to allow portupgrade (which I can't live wihtout) to work? I do a portdb -Uu after every cvsup run if that maters. How many MBs are you going to save versus how much trouble you are going to create. The time and money to get around the problem is your choice. I think refusing a large number of ports is comparable to not building sendmail and then finding out that you aren't getting output from your cron jobs. Well, on machines with 2G drives, every byt counts :-) -- They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
