RE: Which Way to Partition.
-Original Message- From: Tabor Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:52 PM To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; stheg olloydson; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Which Way to Partition. Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 22:14:13 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Can we try to change that? Indeed. My first post to this email list (since I have been back from a 3 year hiatus) was a question about the infamous portsdb -uU/portupgrade -uU segfault. My reward for coming back to this list was an angry email from Don Novello ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Also, if you are going to tell people that they posted duplicate messages, do you need to send that to the whole email list? The message to stheg was people that throw rocks should not live in glass houses, a message he quite obviously understood since he has wisely refrained from responding. The message to the rest of the list was that it isn't nice to criticize people for baloney items, and that if you do so, others are going to come after you. I have found that sort of response to be more effective in the long run to use a ruler to snap the fingers than to make pious hand-wringing or whiny limp appeals to play nice. And I don't mind being called an a-hole for doing it. As a matter of fact, the more people that criticize me for criticizing stheg, the more of a nasty a-hole I look like, which greatly enhances my effectiveness for making people like stheg who start the rock-throwing to quake in their shoes and be more afraid of starting the rock throwing. So, thanks for the cirticism! Perhaps you and some others could give me some more so as to make me an even more effective deterrent to sthenglike behavior :-) Although of course you must not construe this statement as a statement that I wish to interfere with your rights to make as many pious hand-wringing or whiny limp appeals to be nice as you feel necessary, should you feel the need to make pious hand-wringing or whiny limp appeals to be nice, that is. Sorry to have to be so blunt publically, I'm not trying to embarass you, but clearly since you didn't get this, others may have not also. Thus I feel this message also should go for public distribution. Is that enough justification for ccing questions? By the way, could we possibly have more metadiscussion please? You know, I heard this last Christmas there was a sick kid that all he wanted for Christmas was for everyone to send him a Christmas card At least one good thing is we can tell old [EMAIL PROTECTED] that we now have unimpeachable proof that FreeBSD must not have nay problems anymore since there's so few problems people are posting about now that we are now posting about posting about posting!!! ;-) Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which Way to Partition.
On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 22:01:14 -0500, Peterhin wrote: I am new to FreeBSD, and have only used Linux for less than a year. I have read the Handbook, also FreeBSD An open-source system for your personal computer, they both suggest that I do a standard installation, whereas in The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey, his suggestion is to do the custom installation. Any suggestions as to which way to go.? I recommend the custom installation. I also say why. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgp7zJr5MzGHx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Which Way to Partition.
On Jan 21, 2005, at 19:32, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 22:01:14 -0500, Peterhin wrote: I am new to FreeBSD, and have only used Linux for less than a year. I have read the Handbook, also FreeBSD An open-source system for your personal computer, they both suggest that I do a standard installation, whereas in The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey, his suggestion is to do the custom installation. Any suggestions as to which way to go.? I recommend the custom installation. I also say why. Well, I am looking at the 3rd Edition page 71 where it appears you recommend the custom and the novice installations. The only real comment about the custom installation is that it takes you back to the top menu after each step. I have installed may copies of versions 2,3,4, and not 5 and don't see what the advantage of that might be. The only reason that comes to mind is if you botch something you can go back and redo it. That doesn't seem like much of a big deal to me, but... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which Way to Partition.
it was said: I am new to FreeBSD, and have only used Linux for less than a year. I have read the Handbook, also FreeBSD An open-source system for your personal computer, they both suggest that I do a standard installation, whereas in The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey, his suggestion is to do the custom installation. Any suggestions as to which way to go.? Peter Peace is never more than one thought away GNU/Linux Freedom http://libranet.com http://www.fsf.org Hello, This is a bikeshed question, i.e. everyone is expert enough to have an opinion. As such this has been discussed numerous times on this list. search the archives and pick whatever theory seems reasonable for your use. BTW, having GNU/Linux - Freedom in your sig file when posting to a *BSD list is a bit of a _faux pas_, wouldn't you agree? (You do know that *BSD isn't Linux, don't you?) HTH, stheg __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which Way to Partition.
it was said: I am new to FreeBSD, and have only used Linux for less than a year. I have read the Handbook, also FreeBSD An open-source system for your personal computer, they both suggest that I do a standard installation, whereas in The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey, his suggestion is to do the custom installation. Any suggestions as to which way to go.? Peter Peace is never more than one thought away GNU/Linux Freedom http://libranet.com http://www.fsf.org Hello, This is a bikeshed question, i.e. everyone is expert enough to have an opinion. As such this has been discussed numerous times on this list. search the archives and pick whatever theory seems reasonable for your use. BTW, having GNU/Linux - Freedom in your sig file when posting to a *BSD list is a bit of a _faux pas_, wouldn't you agree? (You do know that *BSD isn't Linux, don't you?) HTH, stheg __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Which Way to Partition.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of stheg olloydson Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 9:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which Way to Partition. Hello, This is a bikeshed question, i.e. everyone is expert enough to have an opinion. As such this has been discussed numerous times on this list. search the archives and pick whatever theory seems reasonable for your use. BTW, having GNU/Linux - Freedom in your sig file when posting to a *BSD list is a bit of a _faux pas_, wouldn't you agree? Probably not as much as a faux pas as posting the same message TWICE, stheg, (note message ID's) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which Way to Partition.
On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 22:14:13 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: On Friday, January 21, 2005 9:28 PM, stheg olloydson wrote: This is a bikeshed question, i.e. everyone is expert enough to have an opinion. As such this has been discussed numerous times on this list. search the archives and pick whatever theory seems reasonable for your use. BTW, having GNU/Linux - Freedom in your sig file when posting to a *BSD list is a bit of a _faux pas_, wouldn't you agree? Probably not as much as a faux pas as posting the same message TWICE, stheg, (note message ID's) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] None of the above help improve the standard of the channel. A few weeks back we discussed closing down the FreeBSD-newbies mailing list, because just about everything on it is a technical questions. One of the biggest objections was but the people on -questions are so unfriendly. Can we try to change that? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpaP2Fx2yxjg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Which Way to Partition.
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Long/short syndrome. On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 20:58:35 -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: On Jan 21, 2005, at 19:32, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 22:01:14 -0500, Peterhin wrote: I am new to FreeBSD, and have only used Linux for less than a year. I have read the Handbook, also FreeBSD An open-source system for your personal computer, they both suggest that I do a standard installation, whereas in The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey, his suggestion is to do the custom installation. Any suggestions as to which way to go.? I recommend the custom installation. I also say why. Well, I am looking at the 3rd Edition page 71 where it appears you recommend the custom and the novice installations. The only real comment about the custom installation is that it takes you back to the top menu after each step. I have installed may copies of versions 2,3,4, and not 5 and don't see what the advantage of that might be. The only reason that comes to mind is if you botch something you can go back and redo it. That doesn't seem like much of a big deal to me, but... It's not a big deal, but it helps. You're less likely to need to go back when you're proficient, but it doesn't harm to have the facility. It doesn't cost you anything. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpNVHDcLJ1Xz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Which Way to Partition.
On Jan 21, 2005, at 23:20, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Long/short syndrome. On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 20:58:35 -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: On Jan 21, 2005, at 19:32, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 22:01:14 -0500, Peterhin wrote: I am new to FreeBSD, and have only used Linux for less than a year. I have read the Handbook, also FreeBSD An open-source system for your personal computer, they both suggest that I do a standard installation, whereas in The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey, his suggestion is to do the custom installation. Any suggestions as to which way to go.? I recommend the custom installation. I also say why. Well, I am looking at the 3rd Edition page 71 where it appears you recommend the custom and the novice installations. The only real comment about the custom installation is that it takes you back to the top menu after each step. I have installed may copies of versions 2,3,4, and not 5 and don't see what the advantage of that might be. The only reason that comes to mind is if you botch something you can go back and redo it. That doesn't seem like much of a big deal to me, but... It's not a big deal, but it helps. You're less likely to need to go back when you're proficient, but it doesn't harm to have the facility. It doesn't cost you anything. That makes sense. Glad to know there isn't something I missed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which Way to Partition.
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 22:14:13 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: On Friday, January 21, 2005 9:28 PM, stheg olloydson wrote: snip BTW, having GNU/Linux - Freedom in your sig file when posting to a *BSD list is a bit of a _faux pas_, wouldn't you agree? Probably not as much as a faux pas as posting the same message TWICE, stheg, snip None of the above help improve the standard of the channel. A few weeks back we discussed closing down the FreeBSD-newbies mailing list, because just about everything on it is a technical questions. One of the biggest objections was but the people on -questions are so unfriendly. Can we try to change that? Indeed. My first post to this email list (since I have been back from a 3 year hiatus) was a question about the infamous portsdb -uU/portupgrade -uU segfault. My reward for coming back to this list was an angry email from Don Novello ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Also, if you are going to tell people that they posted duplicate messages, do you need to send that to the whole email list? If you send it to the whole list, you are wasting just as much bandwidth as the guy who accidentally sent his message twice, except you are doing it on purpose. -- Tabor Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tabor.taborandtashell.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
