Re: CVSup -install

2005-06-22 Thread RW
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 22:19, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I first tried to install from disc and was receiving

 Error code - 1

 So I decided to do it from the internet and this is where I'm getting stuck


 This is the error I get

 ┌ User Confirmation Requested ┐
 │ Warning:  Can't find the `5.4-RC4' distribution on this │

It looks like your using a pre-release version of 5.4. If I were you I'd 
upgrade to a proper 5.4 release.
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RE: CVSup -install

2005-06-22 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
Can I upgrade from within, or do I need to  download  , create the disc ,then
reinstall?

I'm VERY new to this, so I'm sorry if my questions are lame



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Subject: Re: CVSup -install

On Tuesday 21 June 2005 22:19, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I first tried to install from disc and was receiving

 Error code - 1

 So I decided to do it from the internet and this is where I'm getting stuck


 This is the error I get

 ┌ User Confirmation Requested ┐
 │ Warning:  Can't find the `5.4-RC4' distribution on this │

It looks like your using a pre-release version of 5.4. If I were you I'd 
upgrade to a proper 5.4 release.
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Re: CVSup -install

2005-06-22 Thread Dmitry Mityugov
On 6/22/05, Jean-Paul Natola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can I upgrade from within, or do I need to  download  , create the disc ,then
 reinstall?
 
 I'm VERY new to this, so I'm sorry if my questions are lame

Jean-Paul,

I am also relatively new to this so please accept my advice with a
grain of salt, but I'd download the ISO images for FreeBSD 5.4,
verified that they are intact with md5 program, created the disk(s)
and tried to install it again.

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RE: CVSup -install

2005-06-22 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
Is this not the proper release
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.4/



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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:23 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: CVSup -install

On Tuesday 21 June 2005 22:19, Jean-Paul Natola wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I first tried to install from disc and was receiving

 Error code - 1

 So I decided to do it from the internet and this is where I'm getting stuck


 This is the error I get

 ┌ User Confirmation Requested ┐
 │ Warning:  Can't find the `5.4-RC4' distribution on this │

It looks like your using a pre-release version of 5.4. If I were you I'd 
upgrade to a proper 5.4 release.
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Re: CVSup -install

2005-06-22 Thread Dmitry Mityugov
On 6/22/05, Jean-Paul Natola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is this not the proper release
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.4/

Yes, it seems it is. Is this what you tried to install already?

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Re: cvsup install

2004-08-18 Thread Henrik W Lund
Curtis Vaughan wrote:
Made a big mistake today.  I was reading in a book that I needed to 
install cvsup for doing updates.  Good.  So, I started installing it.  
Meanwhile I began perusing the FreeBSD website information about cvsup 
and there I read, if you not using a gui, then don't install cvsup, 
but cvsup-without-gui.  So, is there a way to back out the cvsup which 
I did do as it apparently has installed a lot of stuff I don't need on 
this server.
Or do I have to just uninstall all those packages individually?  Is 
there a way then to identify which packages were installed by 
installing cvsup?

Curtis
Greetings!
I'd say your best bet is to install sysutils/portupgrade and use the 
pkg_deinstall command with the -R flag. I.e.:

`pkg_deinstall -R cvsup'
If you absolutely do not want any more riffraff on your box, then you 
must examine the output of

`pkg_info -r cvsup'
and pkg_delete each of the packages listed manually, then delete cvsup. 
If pkg_delete fails on any one of the packages in the list, recurse 
through its dependencies until it can be deleted, then proceed to the 
next package in the list, etc... Just be careful when traversing the 
dependencies. Sooner or later you might deinstall something you really 
want to keep, so keep your eyes open. Not all packages that cvsup 
depends on is required only by cvsup, and some of them were probably 
already installed when you installed cvsup. Like I said, your best bet 
is to go with the sysutils/portupgrade method.

Hope this helps!
-Henrik W Lund
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RE: cvsup install

2004-08-18 Thread mark rowlands
man pkg_delete 


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Subject: cvsup install

Made a big mistake today.  I was reading in a book that I needed to 
install cvsup for doing updates.  Good.  So, I started installing it.  
Meanwhile I began perusing the FreeBSD website information about cvsup 
and there I read, if you not using a gui, then don't install cvsup, but 
cvsup-without-gui.  So, is there a way to back out the cvsup which I 
did do as it apparently has installed a lot of stuff I don't need on 
this server.
Or do I have to just uninstall all those packages individually?  Is 
there a way then to identify which packages were installed by 
installing cvsup?

Curtis

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Re: cvsup install

2004-08-18 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 08:24:21PM -0700, Henrik W Lund wrote:
 Curtis Vaughan wrote:
 
 Made a big mistake today.  I was reading in a book that I needed to 
 install cvsup for doing updates.  Good.  So, I started installing it.  
 Meanwhile I began perusing the FreeBSD website information about cvsup 
 and there I read, if you not using a gui, then don't install cvsup, 
 but cvsup-without-gui.  So, is there a way to back out the cvsup which 
 I did do as it apparently has installed a lot of stuff I don't need on 
 this server.
 Or do I have to just uninstall all those packages individually?  Is 
 there a way then to identify which packages were installed by 
 installing cvsup?
 
 Curtis
 
 Greetings!
 
 I'd say your best bet is to install sysutils/portupgrade and use the 
 pkg_deinstall command with the -R flag. I.e.:
 
 `pkg_deinstall -R cvsup'
 
 If you absolutely do not want any more riffraff on your box, then you 
 must examine the output of
 
 `pkg_info -r cvsup'
 
 and pkg_delete each of the packages listed manually, then delete cvsup. 
 If pkg_delete fails on any one of the packages in the list, recurse 
 through its dependencies until it can be deleted, then proceed to the 
 next package in the list, etc... Just be careful when traversing the 
 dependencies. Sooner or later you might deinstall something you really 
 want to keep, so keep your eyes open. Not all packages that cvsup 
 depends on is required only by cvsup, and some of them were probably 
 already installed when you installed cvsup. Like I said, your best bet 
 is to go with the sysutils/portupgrade method.

This is generally sound advice, but unfortunately, and particularly in
the case of the cvsup ports, it pretty much misses the point.

cvsup depends on very few other ports, all of which are also commonly
dependencies of a large number of other ports:

% pkg_info -r cvsup\*
Information for cvsup-16.1h:

Depends on:
Dependency: pkgconfig-0.15.0_1
Dependency: imake-6.7.0_2
Dependency: freetype2-2.1.7_3
Dependency: expat-1.95.8
Dependency: fontconfig-2.2.3,1
Dependency: xorg-libraries-6.7.0_1

In fact, almost all those dependencies are inherited indirectly
through the xorg-libraries port.  The cvsup-without-gui package
doesn't have *any* dependencies.  Chances are the 'pkg_deinstall -R'
method suggested will only remove the cvsup or cvsup-without-gui port.

Of course, what I've been looking at here are *run time dependencies*.
If you install cvsup from a pkg, that's all you have to bother with.
However, if you install cvsup from source code there's a whole other
swathe of dependencies that haven't yet been considered.  Those are
the *build time dependencies*.  In cvsup's case, those are quite
heavy: it's necessary to install a complete Modula3 compilation tool
chain:

% cd /usr/ports/net/cvsup
% make -V BUILD_DEPENDS
/usr/local/lib/m3/pkg/formsvbt/FreeBSD4/libm3formsvbt.a:/usr/ports/lang/ezm3
The situation has improved over time, and all that's required nowadays
is the ezm3 port.  But that's a very large port, and it takes quite a
lot of effort to compile and install.

You don't need ezm3 for cvsup to work from day to day.  You do need it
anytime you want to compile an update to cvsup from source.  In
principal you can get round that by just using the pkg system to get
any updates, so long as you're willing to wait for a few weeks for the
updated packages to come out.  Personally I'd just leave ezm3 inplace
and compile cvsup updates from source.

As for whether the OP should install cvsup or cvsup-without-gui --
either will do just fine.  The advice to install the cvsup-without-gui
pkg seen in many places on the net is becuse it's a lot quicker to
install that dependency-less port than it is to install various X
libraries and other stuff.  Additionally I'd install cvsup-without-gui
if I was building a server machine *without* any X windows stuff on it
at all.  Otherwise, I'd just install the cvsup port.  Indeed, for a
brand-new install from scratch, I tend to install cvsup-without-gui
temporarily and then use it to pull down the latest system and ports
sources. After which that port will almost immediately be overwritten
with a freshly compiled copy of the cvsup port as part of the general
process of installing all of the extra ports I need.

Cheers,

Matthew


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Re: CVSup install

2004-08-18 Thread george donnelly
Curtis Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 8/17/04 wrote:

Or do I have to just uninstall all those packages individually?  Is 
there a way then to identify which packages were installed by 
installing cvsup?

yes, that will work (pkg_delete)

to see dependancies

pkg_info -r subversion-1.0.6
Information for subversion-1.0.6:

Depends on:
Dependency: python-2.3.4_1
Dependency: perl-5.6.1_15
Dependency: expat-1.95.7
Dependency: libiconv-1.9.2_1
Dependency: neon-0.24.7
Dependency: db4-4.0.14_1,1
Dependency: apr-nothr-db4-0.9.4_9

or cd to the port directory and type make clean

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