RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RW Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:32 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:07:55 +0200 J65nko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the section Compatibility problems of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_window_scale_option TCP Window Scaling is widely implemented in the Windows Vista operating system. Because many routers do not properly implement TCP Window Scaling, it can cause a users Internet connection to malfunction intermittently for a few minutes, then appear to start working again for no reason. If diagnose problem is selected in Vista, an error message will be displayed cannot communicate with primary DNS server. Routers shouldn't care about TCP windows so I guess they're actually referring to the firewalls on NAT-routers. What I don't get is why a TCP Window problem affects DNS. It's not mentioned in the Wikipedia article or the referenced tech-recipes.com link. Surely Vista doesn't routinely do DNS over TCP. It don't. When you click the diagnose problem it does it's usual IPv6 DNS lookup first. They probably assume if the admin got the window scaling thing wrong they got the DNS thing wrong too. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erich Dollansky Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:17 AM To: User Questions Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. Hi, Gerard wrote: On October 17, 2007 at 07:44PM David Benfell wrote: [ ... ] But I believe Firefox is also one of the few pieces of software that can be installed on a Windows system without administrator privileges; you just install it in the user account space, and the Windows system will remember it with the rest of the user account settings and not trouble other users of that system with it. Please define 'administrator privileges' and how it is used at your place of employment. I know of several instances where simply using a piece of software that was not pre-authorised by the proper personnel, usually the SA, will get you fired. Most system administrators do not want their systems polluted with software that they did not install or authorized for use. The reasons are quite obvious do I understand you right? You say that it is normal that users get fired because system administrators are not able to administer their systems properly? If you have physical access to the machine you can run whatever you want on it, no matter what the system administrator does. You might have to jump through some hoops to do so. There are also a surprising number of packages out there that require the user to have administrative software. One of our customers runs Timberline Software (an accounting package I believe, fortunately I don't work directly with them) and that will not work properly unless the user is an administrator. And yes we have told them the software is poorly written and to dump it and no they don't want to switch. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
Hi all, after all my frustration finding the answer to this problem, i think I am getting closer to my answer. According to Cisco, it appears a problem with frimware at our rauting level http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/secursw/ps1018/products_tech_note09186a0080743212.shtml , our routers will be upgrade soon to resolve this issue. There is a work around I found in another University that seem to be experiencing the same problem http://8help.osu.edu/3253.html , I am sorry for taking so long to investigated this issue. If you want to learn more about why this issue is happening with vista and Cisco Routers, do not hesitate to read RFC 1323 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1323.txt?number=1323 . Thank you to all of you who try to find the solution to this problem, all the hints were very helpful. Lisandro Grullon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:11:58 -0700 CC: Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:46 PM To: Lisandro Grullon; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. Lisandro Grullon wrote: Hi Michael, Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to find logic here. Let's see.. the problem is your stupid operating system and it's browser. Why the hell do you continue to whine to us about it? But it probably isn't his OS, it is probably something in between his OS and the FBSD server. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:07:55 +0200 J65nko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the section Compatibility problems of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_window_scale_option TCP Window Scaling is widely implemented in the Windows Vista operating system. Because many routers do not properly implement TCP Window Scaling, it can cause a users Internet connection to malfunction intermittently for a few minutes, then appear to start working again for no reason. If diagnose problem is selected in Vista, an error message will be displayed cannot communicate with primary DNS server. Routers shouldn't care about TCP windows so I guess they're actually referring to the firewalls on NAT-routers. What I don't get is why a TCP Window problem affects DNS. It's not mentioned in the Wikipedia article or the referenced tech-recipes.com link. Surely Vista doesn't routinely do DNS over TCP. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:46 PM To: Lisandro Grullon; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. Lisandro Grullon wrote: Hi Michael, Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to find logic here. Let's see.. the problem is your stupid operating system and it's browser. Why the hell do you continue to whine to us about it? But it probably isn't his OS, it is probably something in between his OS and the FBSD server. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
Lisandro Grullon wrote: Hi Gerard, Thank you for your reply. I really do not understand were the problem is, I am tending to think it is a problem at the routing level now. I ask two of my co-workers to go home and test the website in their machines using vista, they did, and were able to access it in IE 7.x and Firefox; however, I still puzzle, why are the machines using windows XP downward able to load the site in IE or Firefox. I know that you or someone else mention something regarding IPV6 TCP window encapsulation at the routing level, yet I am testing vista at work (over 3000 nodes), this is one of the test I am performing before deploying it. It seems weir that www.freebsd.org is the only website experiencing the problem so far. BTW, the FreeBSD servers in out LAN also cannot access www.freebsd.org;as a temporary solution, I have been able to access the handbook via www.uk.freebsd.org . This is a really weird issue that is bothering me and I won't stop until it is solve, sooner or later our client side will be migrated to Windows Vista hence our users are not computer literate to migrate to Unix or Linux at this point in time. I still looking for clues if anyone has found a solution to this, meanwhile I appreciate your effort Gerard and that of many others that have contribute to resolve this matter. Lisandro Grullon To check if it's an problem with IPv6, could you try accessing http://www.ipv6.org or http://www.kame.net ? You could try running traceroute to check for routing problems to see where the problem is. -- Bruce Cran While his reply may not have been the most cordial that I have seen, it was nevertheless quite on point. I have used Vista and IE7 to connect to FBSD without incident. It therefore becomes evident that the problem is germane to you rather than the whole FBSD group at large. Did you actually read the link given to you in an earlier post? You might also try contacting your ISP and see if there is a problem there. You could also just use another browser that is more tolerant than IE7 appears to be in this incident. If you reply again, please lose the 'top posting' format. It makes following your replies far more trouble than it is worth. -- Gerard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
The next version of Microsoft server will ship with TCP window scaling on as well so the router vendors better get their firmware updates in order pretty quick... Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lisandro Grullon Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:15 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. This is insane, the FreebSD team needs to find a more liable solution to this problem, hence some of our prospects users that will be browsing the site with vista machi9nes will just go away without knowing what is going on. Is the team currently working gin a solution to this problem, after all most networks still routing through IPv6. Patiently waiting for an answer...Lisandro Grullon Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:07:55 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. On 10/16/07, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all users, After troubleshooting from all angles this problem i have run out of imagination/sense. I loaded a machine with Windows Vista a work and try accessing the www.freebsd.org website. The web site didn't load, yet I try again in 10 other machines to see if it was a machine issue. Lastly I try loading the size in a Windows XP machine and it works ok. What seems to be the problem in this case? I have run out of ideas and even ask a few colleges at work and they don't seem to have a clue either. Please advise. Lisandro grullon From the section Compatibility problems of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_window_scale_option TCP Window Scaling is widely implemented in the Windows Vista operating system. Because many routers do not properly implement TCP Window Scaling, it can cause a users Internet connection to malfunction intermittently for a few minutes, then appear to start working again for no reason. If diagnose problem is selected in Vista, an error message will be displayed cannot communicate with primary DNS server. -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us_ __ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
On October 17, 2007 at 07:44PM David Benfell wrote: [ ... ] But I believe Firefox is also one of the few pieces of software that can be installed on a Windows system without administrator privileges; you just install it in the user account space, and the Windows system will remember it with the rest of the user account settings and not trouble other users of that system with it. Please define 'administrator privileges' and how it is used at your place of employment. I know of several instances where simply using a piece of software that was not pre-authorised by the proper personnel, usually the SA, will get you fired. Most system administrators do not want their systems polluted with software that they did not install or authorized for use. The reasons are quite obvious -- Gerard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
Hi, Gerard wrote: On October 17, 2007 at 07:44PM David Benfell wrote: [ ... ] But I believe Firefox is also one of the few pieces of software that can be installed on a Windows system without administrator privileges; you just install it in the user account space, and the Windows system will remember it with the rest of the user account settings and not trouble other users of that system with it. Please define 'administrator privileges' and how it is used at your place of employment. I know of several instances where simply using a piece of software that was not pre-authorised by the proper personnel, usually the SA, will get you fired. Most system administrators do not want their systems polluted with software that they did not install or authorized for use. The reasons are quite obvious do I understand you right? You say that it is normal that users get fired because system administrators are not able to administer their systems properly? Man, fire the management. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
On October 18, 2007 at 07:16AM Erich Dollansky wrote: [ ... ] do I understand you right? You say that it is normal that users get fired because system administrators are not able to administer their systems properly? No, employees can be dismissed for installing and or using unauthorized software/hardware on company equipment. -- Gerard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
On 10/16/07, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all users, After troubleshooting from all angles this problem i have run out of imagination/sense. I loaded a machine with Windows Vista a work and try accessing the www.freebsd.org website. The web site didn't load, yet I try again in 10 other machines to see if it was a machine issue. Lastly I try loading the size in a Windows XP machine and it works ok. What seems to be the problem in this case? I have run out of ideas and even ask a few colleges at work and they don't seem to have a clue either. Please advise. Lisandro grullon From the section Compatibility problems of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_window_scale_option TCP Window Scaling is widely implemented in the Windows Vista operating system. Because many routers do not properly implement TCP Window Scaling, it can cause a users Internet connection to malfunction intermittently for a few minutes, then appear to start working again for no reason. If diagnose problem is selected in Vista, an error message will be displayed cannot communicate with primary DNS server. -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
This is insane, the FreebSD team needs to find a more liable solution to this problem, hence some of our prospects users that will be browsing the site with vista machi9nes will just go away without knowing what is going on. Is the team currently working gin a solution to this problem, after all most networks still routing through IPv6. Patiently waiting for an answer...Lisandro Grullon Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:07:55 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. On 10/16/07, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all users, After troubleshooting from all angles this problem i have run out of imagination/sense. I loaded a machine with Windows Vista a work and try accessing the www.freebsd.org website. The web site didn't load, yet I try again in 10 other machines to see if it was a machine issue. Lastly I try loading the size in a Windows XP machine and it works ok. What seems to be the problem in this case? I have run out of ideas and even ask a few colleges at work and they don't seem to have a clue either. Please advise. Lisandro grullon From the section Compatibility problems of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_window_scale_option TCP Window Scaling is widely implemented in the Windows Vista operating system. Because many routers do not properly implement TCP Window Scaling, it can cause a users Internet connection to malfunction intermittently for a few minutes, then appear to start working again for no reason. If diagnose problem is selected in Vista, an error message will be displayed cannot communicate with primary DNS server. -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
How do I disable ipv6 in my browser, if you can elaborate on that it would be helpful. Thanks in advance.Lisandro Please provide both exmaples for IE and Firefox. Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:01:23 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After troubleshooting from all angles this problem i have run out of imagination/sense. I loaded a machine with Windows Vista a work and try accessing the www.freebsd.org website. The web site didn't load, yet I try again in 10 other machines to see if it was a machine issue. Lastly I try loading the size in a Windows XP machine and it works ok. What seems to be the problem in this case? I have run out of ideas and even ask a few colleges at work and they don't seem to have a clue either. Try disabling IPv6 in either your browser or your operating system, or use a proxy that only does IPv4. Fabian _ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook – together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
2007/10/17, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How do I disable ipv6 in my browser, if you can elaborate on that it would be helpful. Thanks in advance.Lisandro Please provide both exmaples for IE and Firefox. I don't know how to disable IPv6 in IE. But for Firefox: 1) you type about:config into the address line at the top 2) then in the filter/search field you type ipv6 3) you see a line with network.dns.disableIPv6 ... 4) you click with right mouse key and choose Editing 5) type true into the value field 6) have fun ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
In response to Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is insane, the FreebSD team needs to find a more liable solution to this problem, hence some of our prospects users that will be browsing the site with vista machi9nes will just go away without knowing what is going on. Is the team currently working gin a solution to this problem, after all most networks still routing through IPv6. Patiently waiting for an answer...Lisandro Grullon The following is taken from the script of government informational video #3378: Commentator: Fear not! [Cut to scenes of Post WWII networking facilities ravaged by the war. Half-starving network technicians are trying to repair antiquated routers and switches.] Commentator: The FreeBSD team is working feverishly to solve this problem. Unfortunately, the resolution requires the replacement of billions of dollars worth of network equipment spread across the world, much of it owned by private companies who have little or no knowledge of the problem or the solution. [Cut to air-drops of new networking equipment being dropped over war- torn cities. Crowds of people line the streets and cheer as the parachutes drop gently to the ground right in front of the local telco.] Commentator: Luckily, the FreeBSD project has scores of influential computer technicians all over the world, and they're all working to solve the problem. We believe that, in time, this scourge on our network can be removed! [Cut to shots of community groups meeting in churches with laptops.] Commentator: What can you do to help? Work to track down the exact cause of your particular network problem and report it to the responsible party. Volunteer with your local user's group for whatever needs done! Help to organize others and spread the news! Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:07:55 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. On 10/16/07, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all users, After troubleshooting from all angles this problem i have run out of imagination/sense. I loaded a machine with Windows Vista a work and try accessing the www.freebsd.org website. The web site didn't load, yet I try again in 10 other machines to see if it was a machine issue. Lastly I try loading the size in a Windows XP machine and it works ok. What seems to be the problem in this case? I have run out of ideas and even ask a few colleges at work and they don't seem to have a clue either. Please advise. Lisandro grullon From the section Compatibility problems of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_window_scale_option TCP Window Scaling is widely implemented in the Windows Vista operating system. Because many routers do not properly implement TCP Window Scaling, it can cause a users Internet connection to malfunction intermittently for a few minutes, then appear to start working again for no reason. If diagnose problem is selected in Vista, an error message will be displayed cannot communicate with primary DNS server. -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
I follow your instructions as you outline them here using Firefox, close and restart the browser and still not working. Please advise. Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:27:13 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. 2007/10/17, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How do I disable ipv6 in my browser, if you can elaborate on that it would be helpful. Thanks in advance.Lisandro Please provide both exmaples for IE and Firefox. I don't know how to disable IPv6 in IE. But for Firefox: 1) you type about:config into the address line at the top 2) then in the filter/search field you type ipv6 3) you see a line with network.dns.disableIPv6 ... 4) you click with right mouse key and choose Editing 5) type true into the value field 6) have fun ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
Hello Lisandro: You can try this from a command prompt. netsh interface teredo set state disabled That disables teredo for the entire system. I don't think you can just disable it for the browser. Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisandro Grullon Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:50 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. I follow your instructions as you outline them here using Firefox, close and restart the browser and still not working. Please advise. Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:27:13 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. 2007/10/17, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How do I disable ipv6 in my browser, if you can elaborate on that it would be helpful. Thanks in advance.Lisandro Please provide both exmaples for IE and Firefox. I don't know how to disable IPv6 in IE. But for Firefox: 1) you type about:config into the address line at the top 2) then in the filter/search field you type ipv6 3) you see a line with network.dns.disableIPv6 ... 4) you click with right mouse key and choose Editing 5) type true into the value field 6) have fun ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_ oct___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
Hi Michael, Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to find logic here. Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:08:15 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org CC: Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. Hello Lisandro: You can try this from a command prompt. netsh interface teredo set state disabled That disables teredo for the entire system. I don't think you can just disable it for the browser. Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisandro Grullon Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:50 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. I follow your instructions as you outline them here using Firefox, close and restart the browser and still not working. Please advise. Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:27:13 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. 2007/10/17, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How do I disable ipv6 in my browser, if you can elaborate on that it would be helpful. Thanks in advance.Lisandro Please provide both exmaples for IE and Firefox. I don't know how to disable IPv6 in IE. But for Firefox: 1) you type about:config into the address line at the top 2) then in the filter/search field you type ipv6 3) you see a line with network.dns.disableIPv6 ... 4) you click with right mouse key and choose Editing 5) type true into the value field 6) have fun ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_ oct___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
Hello Lisandro: Sure, here's the output from a Vista laptop and ping. C:\ping www.freebsd.org Pinging www.freebsd.org [2001:4f8:fff6::21] from 2001:468:1420:f:5872:c1f6:31bd: 2608 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 2001:4f8:fff6::21: time=144ms Reply from 2001:4f8:fff6::21: time=142ms Reply from 2001:4f8:fff6::21: time=143ms Reply from 2001:4f8:fff6::21: time=143ms Ping statistics for 2001:4f8:fff6::21: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 142ms, Maximum = 144ms, Average = 143ms C:\ ping www.uk.freebsd.org Pinging web008.pavilion.net [212.74.4.8] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 212.74.4.8: bytes=32 time=139ms TTL=43 Reply from 212.74.4.8: bytes=32 time=137ms TTL=43 Reply from 212.74.4.8: bytes=32 time=138ms TTL=43 Reply from 212.74.4.8: bytes=32 time=138ms TTL=43 Ping statistics for 212.74.4.8: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 137ms, Maximum = 139ms, Average = 138ms So, even though I didn't tell Vista to use IPv6 for www.freebsd.org, that's what it found first. Thankfully, I'm IPv6 enabled on my laptop so I can reach the site. It appears that the UK site is not advertising IPv6 yet so you can still reach it. Here is another link directly from Microsoft that might have more options for disabling IPv6 in your Vista machine. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/ipv6/ipv6faq.mspx Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisandro Grullon Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:21 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. Hi Michael, Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to find logic here. Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:08:15 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org CC: Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. Hello Lisandro: You can try this from a command prompt. netsh interface teredo set state disabled That disables teredo for the entire system. I don't think you can just disable it for the browser. Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisandro Grullon Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:50 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. I follow your instructions as you outline them here using Firefox, close and restart the browser and still not working. Please advise. Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:27:13 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. 2007/10/17, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How do I disable ipv6 in my browser, if you can elaborate on that it would be helpful. Thanks in advance.Lisandro Please provide both exmaples for IE and Firefox. I don't know how to disable IPv6 in IE. But for Firefox: 1) you type about:config into the address line at the top 2) then in the filter/search field you type ipv6 3) you see a line with network.dns.disableIPv6 ... 4) you click with right mouse key and choose Editing 5) type true into the value field 6) have fun ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_ oct___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_ oct___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http
Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
Bill Moran wrote: In response to Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is insane, the FreebSD team needs to find a more liable solution to this problem, hence some of our prospects users that will be browsing the site with vista machi9nes will just go away without knowing what is going on. Is the team currently working gin a solution to this problem, after all most networks still routing through IPv6. Patiently waiting for an answer...Lisandro Grullon The following is taken from the script of government informational video #3378: Commentator: Fear not! [Cut to scenes of Post WWII networking facilities ravaged by the war. Half-starving network technicians are trying to repair antiquated routers and switches.] Commentator: The FreeBSD team is working feverishly to solve this problem. Unfortunately, the resolution requires the replacement of billions of dollars worth of network equipment spread across the world, much of it owned by private companies who have little or no knowledge of the problem or the solution. [Cut to air-drops of new networking equipment being dropped over war- torn cities. Crowds of people line the streets and cheer as the parachutes drop gently to the ground right in front of the local telco.] Commentator: Luckily, the FreeBSD project has scores of influential computer technicians all over the world, and they're all working to solve the problem. We believe that, in time, this scourge on our network can be removed! [Cut to shots of community groups meeting in churches with laptops.] Commentator: What can you do to help? Work to track down the exact cause of your particular network problem and report it to the responsible party. Volunteer with your local user's group for whatever needs done! Help to organize others and spread the news! Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:07:55 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. On 10/16/07, Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all users, After troubleshooting from all angles this problem i have run out of imagination/sense. I loaded a machine with Windows Vista a work and try accessing the www.freebsd.org website. The web site didn't load, yet I try again in 10 other machines to see if it was a machine issue. Lastly I try loading the size in a Windows XP machine and it works ok. What seems to be the problem in this case? I have run out of ideas and even ask a few colleges at work and they don't seem to have a clue either. Please advise. Lisandro grullon From the section Compatibility problems of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_window_scale_option TCP Window Scaling is widely implemented in the Windows Vista operating system. Because many routers do not properly implement TCP Window Scaling, it can cause a users Internet connection to malfunction intermittently for a few minutes, then appear to start working again for no reason. If diagnose problem is selected in Vista, an error message will be displayed cannot communicate with primary DNS server. -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aloha! You have an Academy Award winning comment here. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + http://internetohana.org - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
Lisandro Grullon wrote: Hi Michael, Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to find logic here. Let's see.. the problem is your stupid operating system and it's browser. Why the hell do you continue to whine to us about it? Take it up with billy gates and his minions. -Rob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 12:21 -0400, Lisandro Grullon wrote: Hi Michael, Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to find logic here. [...snip...] Try Firefox ;; -- Byung-Hee HWANG [EMAIL PROTECTED] InZealBomb, Kyungpook National University, KOREA Get up when it's dinnertime and then you can eat. I'm not going to cook again for you. -- Tommy's mother, Chapter 30, page 416 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
Dear Rob, Do us a favor, do not reply to peoples' questions with your low level intelligent response. Only reply if you will add value to the list. Lisandro Grullon Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:46:00 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org CC: Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. Lisandro Grullon wrote: Hi Michael, Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to find logic here. Let's see.. the problem is your stupid operating system and it's browser. Why the hell do you continue to whine to us about it? Take it up with billy gates and his minions. -Rob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:52:49 -0400 Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... formatted to show proper flow (removed top posting) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:46:00 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org CC: Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. Lisandro Grullon wrote: Hi Michael, Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to find logic here. Let's see.. the problem is your stupid operating system and it's browser. Why the hell do you continue to whine to us about it? Take it up with billy gates and his minions. -Rob Dear Rob, Do us a favor, do not reply to peoples' questions with your low level intelligent response. Only reply if you will add value to the list. Lisandro Grullon Lisandro - What Rob really meant to say is simply this - while the Op has an issue with IE7 and the FreeBSD website, the Op's issues are beyond the scope of this list. The Op's IE7 issues don't belong here, within a FreeBSD list. Perhaps what Rob also meant was, that perhaps the Op should seen help on Microsoft driven lists and more to the point, Internet Explorer. What you could have done (as mentioned by your words of adding value-added replies) was to reinforce to the Op that indeed the FreeBSD site (US) was and is indeed up and working. -- Best regards, Chris Registerd Linux user number 448639 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 06:22:05AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 12:21 -0400, Lisandro Grullon wrote: Hi Michael, Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to find logic here. [...snip...] Try Firefox ;; Unfortunately, Firefox isn't always an option, especially on e.g. corporate networks. -- Benjamin A'Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://subvert.org.uk/~bma/ I believe in equality for everyone, except reporters and photographers. - Mahatma Gandhi pgpEuttExtP1p.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
On October 17, 2007 at 04:52PM Lisandro Grullon wrote: Dear Rob, Do us a favor, do not reply to peoples' questions with your low level intelligent response. Only reply if you will add value to the list. Lisandro Grullon Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:46:00 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org CC: Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box. Lisandro Grullon wrote: Hi Michael, Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to find logic here. Let's see.. the problem is your stupid operating system and it's browser. Why the hell do you continue to whine to us about it? Take it up with billy gates and his minions. -Rob While his reply may not have been the most cordial that I have seen, it was nevertheless quite on point. I have used Vista and IE7 to connect to FBSD without incident. It therefore becomes evident that the problem is germane to you rather than the whole FBSD group at large. Did you actually read the link given to you in an earlier post? You might also try contacting your ISP and see if there is a problem there. You could also just use another browser that is more tolerant than IE7 appears to be in this incident. If you reply again, please lose the 'top posting' format. It makes following your replies far more trouble than it is worth. -- Gerard A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? TOPIC: Posting Etiquette ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Off Topic] Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:23:48 +0100, Benjamin A'Lee wrote: Unfortunately, Firefox isn't always an option, especially on e.g. corporate networks. Actually, I believe it is. I run around with a memory stick (well, actually, two of them, but only because I never really got my act together) loaded with software to make Windows at least partly useful. Firefox is one of the programs I typically have loaded on this stick. This avoids installing Firefox on every Windows system I encounter. But I believe Firefox is also one of the few pieces of software that can be installed on a Windows system without administrator privileges; you just install it in the user account space, and the Windows system will remember it with the rest of the user account settings and not trouble other users of that system with it. But I'll also have to acknowledge we're getting well off topic for this list here. So I'll shut up now. -- David Benfell, LCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Resume available at http://www.parts-unknown.org/ NOTE: I sign all messages with GnuPG (0DD1D1E3). pgplSmmvT7YqQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
Hi Gerard, Thank you for your reply. I really do not understand were the problem is, I am tending to think it is a problem at the routing level now. I ask two of my co-workers to go home and test the website in their machines using vista, they did, and were able to access it in IE 7.x and Firefox; however, I still puzzle, why are the machines using windows XP downward able to load the site in IE or Firefox. I know that you or someone else mention something regarding IPV6 TCP window encapsulation at the routing level, yet I am testing vista at work (over 3000 nodes), this is one of the test I am performing before deploying it. It seems weir that www.freebsd.org is the only website experiencing the problem so far. BTW, the FreeBSD servers in out LAN also cannot access www.freebsd.org;as a temporary solution, I have been able to access the handbook via www.uk.freebsd.org . This is a really weird issue that is bothering me and I won't stop until it is solve, sooner or later our client side will be migrated to Windows Vista hence our users are not computer literate to migrate to Unix or Linux at this point in time. I still looking for clues if anyone has found a solution to this, meanwhile I appreciate your effort Gerard and that of many others that have contribute to resolve this matter. Lisandro Grullon While his reply may not have been the most cordial that I have seen, it was nevertheless quite on point. I have used Vista and IE7 to connect to FBSD without incident. It therefore becomes evident that the problem is germane to you rather than the whole FBSD group at large. Did you actually read the link given to you in an earlier post? You might also try contacting your ISP and see if there is a problem there. You could also just use another browser that is more tolerant than IE7 appears to be in this incident. If you reply again, please lose the 'top posting' format. It makes following your replies far more trouble than it is worth. -- Gerard A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? TOPIC: Posting Etiquette ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook – together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Off Topic] Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
David Benfell wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:23:48 +0100, Benjamin A'Lee wrote: Unfortunately, Firefox isn't always an option, especially on e.g. corporate networks. Actually, I believe it is. I run around with a memory stick (well, actually, two of them, but only because I never really got my act together) loaded with software to make Windows at least partly useful. Firefox is one of the programs I typically have loaded on this stick. This avoids installing Firefox on every Windows system I encounter. You can even go a step farther and put FreeBSD on a stick (though to have anything usable you will need 8 to 10 gb [assuming gnome/firefox/thunderbird/openoffice]) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
Lisandro Grullon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After troubleshooting from all angles this problem i have run out of imagination/sense. I loaded a machine with Windows Vista a work and try accessing the www.freebsd.org website. The web site didn't load, yet I try again in 10 other machines to see if it was a machine issue. Lastly I try loading the size in a Windows XP machine and it works ok. What seems to be the problem in this case? I have run out of ideas and even ask a few colleges at work and they don't seem to have a clue either. Try disabling IPv6 in either your browser or your operating system, or use a proxy that only does IPv4. Fabian signature.asc Description: PGP signature