Secure file transfers

2005-02-10 Thread Danie Du Toit
Which packages are available to upload /download large dumpfiles in a
secure fashion (e.g. using SSL). The customer should not need any
secure client installed on his PC.

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Re: Secure file transfers

2005-02-10 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Danie Du Toit writes:

 Which packages are available to upload /download large dumpfiles in a
 secure fashion (e.g. using SSL). The customer should not need any
 secure client installed on his PC.

Anything that is secure will require appropriate software at both ends
of the transfer, and thus will require some sort of security-aware
client on the customer's PC.

SFTP provides secure file transfers.  I use SecureFX on my client
machine, and the standard SFTP server on the FreeBSD server.

-- 
Anthony


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Re: Secure file transfers

2005-02-10 Thread Gregor Mosheh

I had a similar, perhaps related question. I'm making
backups via tar to a SMB server, but I would rather
use sftp/scp for it (the NAS supports both SMB and
scp/sftp).

I don't have enough disk space to make the backup to a
tarchive and then scp that tarchive. Is there a way to
make scp/sftp read from a pipe or stdin, rather than
specific filenames? The docs haven't mentioned it, but
since the subject came up I thought it worth asking...


--- Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Danie Du Toit writes:
 
  Which packages are available to upload /download
 large dumpfiles in a
  secure fashion (e.g. using SSL). The customer
 should not need any
  secure client installed on his PC.
 
 Anything that is secure will require appropriate
 software at both ends
 of the transfer, and thus will require some sort of
 security-aware
 client on the customer's PC.
 
 SFTP provides secure file transfers.  I use SecureFX
 on my client
 machine, and the standard SFTP server on the FreeBSD
 server.
 
 -- 
 Anthony
 
 
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Re: Secure file transfers

2005-02-10 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Thursday 10 February 2005 02:28 pm, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
 Danie Du Toit writes:
  Which packages are available to upload /download large dumpfiles in
  a secure fashion (e.g. using SSL). The customer should not need any
  secure client installed on his PC.

 Anything that is secure will require appropriate software at both
 ends of the transfer, and thus will require some sort of
 security-aware client on the customer's PC.

 SFTP provides secure file transfers.  I use SecureFX on my client
 machine, and the standard SFTP server on the FreeBSD server.

How about webdav over SSL (https)?

The easiest webdav client that I've found in *nix is Konqueror.  Windows 
(2K, XP) and Mac OSX have support for webdav by default.

Andrew Gould
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Re: Secure file transfers

2005-02-10 Thread Vince Hoffman

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Gregor Mosheh wrote:
I had a similar, perhaps related question. I'm making
backups via tar to a SMB server, but I would rather
use sftp/scp for it (the NAS supports both SMB and
scp/sftp).
I don't have enough disk space to make the backup to a
tarchive and then scp that tarchive. Is there a way to
make scp/sftp read from a pipe or stdin, rather than
specific filenames? The docs haven't mentioned it, but
since the subject came up I thought it worth asking...
Hmm the other way round is easy enough,
scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:foo.tar.gz /dev/stdout | tar -ztf -
and either way with full ssh
tar -zcf - * |ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat  foo.tar.gz
cat foo.tar.gz |ssh jhary:10.0.0.1 tar -zxf -
I hope some of this might help as i cant think of a way to do as you 
want.

Vince
--- Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Danie Du Toit writes:
Which packages are available to upload /download
large dumpfiles in a
secure fashion (e.g. using SSL). The customer
should not need any
secure client installed on his PC.
Anything that is secure will require appropriate
software at both ends
of the transfer, and thus will require some sort of
security-aware
client on the customer's PC.
SFTP provides secure file transfers.  I use SecureFX
on my client
machine, and the standard SFTP server on the FreeBSD
server.
--
Anthony
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Re: Secure file transfers

2005-02-10 Thread Erik Norgaard
Gregor Mosheh wrote:
I had a similar, perhaps related question. I'm making
backups via tar to a SMB server, but I would rather
use sftp/scp for it (the NAS supports both SMB and
scp/sftp).
I don't have enough disk space to make the backup to a
tarchive and then scp that tarchive. Is there a way to
make scp/sftp read from a pipe or stdin, rather than
specific filenames? The docs haven't mentioned it, but
since the subject came up I thought it worth asking...
You can tunnel rsync through ssh, this way you only transfer changes, 
you transfer changes in a secure fassion, and you don't need diskspace 
to create a backup file that is then transfered, I use:

/usr/local/bin/rsync -Cuvaz --rsh=ssh /path/to/src/ \
   myuser@myserver:/path/to/dst
The only, but really anoying, problem about rsync is that /path/to/src/ 
is not treated as /path/to/src - the above does what you expect: mirror 
all in src to dst.

So, while you try figuring out the /'s rsync to an empty dir, then you 
can easily delete.

Cheers, Erik
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Re: Secure file transfers

2005-02-10 Thread Danie Du Toit
I am sorry, the requirements was a bit vague.

A customer will call in with a issue and I'll request they send me log
files, crashdumps, sniffer traces, etc.If  the info is, say less
than 5MB, I request they mail me the file zipped (password encryped)
as most users do not have pgp or a secure ftp client (mostly windows
users). Larger files must be FTP'd.  Well of course there is the
security concern.

I believe one can set up a Apache server with SSL to PHP and have the
client browse to the server and upload the files securely (without
having to load any additional client software on their windows
PC's/servers)

I am running a 5.3 box and have some issues installing Apache/SSL/PHP
due to dependencies mismatches.

 


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:40:47 -0600, Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday 10 February 2005 02:28 pm, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
  Danie Du Toit writes:
   Which packages are available to upload /download large dumpfiles in
   a secure fashion (e.g. using SSL). The customer should not need any
   secure client installed on his PC.
 
  Anything that is secure will require appropriate software at both
  ends of the transfer, and thus will require some sort of
  security-aware client on the customer's PC.
 
  SFTP provides secure file transfers.  I use SecureFX on my client
  machine, and the standard SFTP server on the FreeBSD server.
 
 How about webdav over SSL (https)?
 
 The easiest webdav client that I've found in *nix is Konqueror.  Windows
 (2K, XP) and Mac OSX have support for webdav by default.
 
 Andrew Gould
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