Re: Sun sucks
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 03:47 +, RW wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:10:10 -0500 Ansar Mohammed ans...@gmail.com wrote: After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3 months I finally get an email saying they want clarification on the acronym for my company. Well there's your problem. You gave them too much information in the first place. I usually just make-up a name as a matter of principle. Just create a new account for some made-up name, don't specify any company, download your file, and then (if you really care) go through the hoops afterwards. I'm finding that I'm actually running out of names... keeps coming back saying it already exists! I now keep a record of a crap name and reuse it every time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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---BeginMessage--- On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 03:47 +, RW wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:10:10 -0500 Ansar Mohammed ans...@gmail.com wrote: After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3 months I finally get an email saying they want clarification on the acronym for my company. Well there's your problem. You gave them too much information in the first place. I usually just make-up a name as a matter of principle. Just create a new account for some made-up name, don't specify any company, download your file, and then (if you really care) go through the hoops afterwards. I'm finding that I'm actually running out of names... keeps coming back saying it already exists! I now keep a record of a crap name and reuse it every time. ---End Message--- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sun sucks
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:16:25 -0500 Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: RW wrote: Just create a new account for some made-up name, don't specify any company, download your file, and then (if you really care) go through the hoops afterwards. Improper subject, wrong attitude. If one wishes to use a license from another product that is outside of the BSD license scope, then follow it properly. FreeBSD ( personnel) does a magnificent job of keeping outside-licensed code and objects separate from itself, and I'd rather jump through burning hoops of flame to 'add on' to the system to mend it to my needs, as opposed to having the system, and possibly its users, face legal ramifications later... That would be an excellent point if I claimed to speak for the FreeBSD project - I don't, so it isn't. OSS projects aren't liable for the actions and opinions of their end-users. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sun sucks
RW wrote: On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:16:25 -0500 Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: RW wrote: Just create a new account for some made-up name, don't specify any company, download your file, and then (if you really care) go through the hoops afterwards. Improper subject, wrong attitude. If one wishes to use a license from another product that is outside of the BSD license scope, then follow it properly. FreeBSD ( personnel) does a magnificent job of keeping outside-licensed code and objects separate from itself, and I'd rather jump through burning hoops of flame to 'add on' to the system to mend it to my needs, as opposed to having the system, and possibly its users, face legal ramifications later... That would be an excellent point if I claimed to speak for the FreeBSD project - I don't, so it isn't. OSS projects aren't liable for the actions and opinions of their end-users. Perhaps we go to far though because I know of no other OS vendor that requires you to sign a seperate license for Java... they just notify you in their legal file that your responible to execute the license before you install... that way there is none of this current crazyness. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Sun sucks
So I am trying to build Java on FreeBSD 7.0. I need to REGSITER to download the Timezone Java patch. After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3 months I finally get an email saying they want clarification on the acronym for my company. (no access yet to download Java patch.) This sucks man. Is there one central repository where we can get all the components required to build Java on FreeBSD? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sun sucks
On Jan 8, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Ansar Mohammed wrote: So I am trying to build Java on FreeBSD 7.0. I need to REGSITER to download the Timezone Java patch. After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3 months I finally get an email saying they want clarification on the acronym for my company. (no access yet to download Java patch.) This sucks man. Is there one central repository where we can get all the components required to build Java on FreeBSD? I wonder what happens if you google tzupdater-1_3_11-2008i.zip? -- Steven Kreuzer http://www.exit2shell.com/~skreuzer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sun sucks
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Ansar Mohammed ans...@gmail.com wrote: So I am trying to build Java on FreeBSD 7.0. I need to REGSITER to download the Timezone Java patch. After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3 months I finally get an email saying they want clarification on the acronym for my company. (no access yet to download Java patch.) This sucks man. Is there one central repository where we can get all the components required to build Java on FreeBSD? From the FreeBSD Foundation: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Sun sucks
It brings me back to the Sun website. -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Steven Kreuzer Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:14 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sun sucks On Jan 8, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Ansar Mohammed wrote: So I am trying to build Java on FreeBSD 7.0. I need to REGSITER to download the Timezone Java patch. After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3 months I finally get an email saying they want clarification on the acronym for my company. (no access yet to download Java patch.) This sucks man. Is there one central repository where we can get all the components required to build Java on FreeBSD? I wonder what happens if you google tzupdater-1_3_11-2008i.zip? -- Steven Kreuzer http://www.exit2shell.com/~skreuzer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sun sucks
Andrew Gould wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Ansar Mohammed ans...@gmail.com wrote: So I am trying to build Java on FreeBSD 7.0. I need to REGSITER to download the Timezone Java patch. After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3 months I finally get an email saying they want clarification on the acronym for my company. (no access yet to download Java patch.) This sucks man. Is there one central repository where we can get all the components required to build Java on FreeBSD? From the FreeBSD Foundation: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Small problem diablo needs the TZUPDATTER ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Sun sucks
Thanks Andrew, but foundation website is NOT a central repository. You need to go to 3 places, To sun for the DST update, to the foundation for the source and here http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsddom/java/jdk16.html for the patchset. From: Andrew Gould [mailto:andrewlylego...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:17 PM To: Ansar Mohammed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sun sucks On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Ansar Mohammed ans...@gmail.com wrote: So I am trying to build Java on FreeBSD 7.0. I need to REGSITER to download the Timezone Java patch. After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3 months I finally get an email saying they want clarification on the acronym for my company. (no access yet to download Java patch.) This sucks man. Is there one central repository where we can get all the components required to build Java on FreeBSD? From the FreeBSD Foundation: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sun sucks
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:10:10PM -0500, Ansar Mohammed wrote: So I am trying to build Java on FreeBSD 7.0. I need to REGSITER to download the Timezone Java patch. After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3 months I finally get an email saying they want clarification on the acronym for my company. (no access yet to download Java patch.) This sucks man. Is there one central repository where we can get all the components required to build Java on FreeBSD? Try downloading it from URL provided by filesearch.ru search results: http://www.filesearch.ru/cgi-bin/s?q=tzupdater-1_3_11-2008i.zipt=fw=a HTH, Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Sun sucks
Yrui, thanks for the assist man. But I refuse to believe that this is what it has come to. Thanks for the help all, someone gave me creds I can use, the openJDK seems like a promising option. -Original Message- From: Yuri Pankov [mailto:yuri.pan...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:30 PM To: Ansar Mohammed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sun sucks On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:10:10PM -0500, Ansar Mohammed wrote: So I am trying to build Java on FreeBSD 7.0. I need to REGSITER to download the Timezone Java patch. After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3 months I finally get an email saying they want clarification on the acronym for my company. (no access yet to download Java patch.) This sucks man. Is there one central repository where we can get all the components required to build Java on FreeBSD? Try downloading it from URL provided by filesearch.ru search results: http://www.filesearch.ru/cgi-bin/s?q=tzupdater-1_3_11-2008i.zipt=fw=a HTH, Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sun sucks
you could use bugmenot to get by the registration. openjdk also builds on freebsd, but no port yet On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Ansar Mohammed ans...@gmail.com wrote: So I am trying to build Java on FreeBSD 7.0. I need to REGSITER to download the Timezone Java patch. After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3 months I finally get an email saying they want clarification on the acronym for my company. (no access yet to download Java patch.) This sucks man. Is there one central repository where we can get all the components required to build Java on FreeBSD? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- And what is good, Phaedrus, And what is not good— Need we ask anyone to tell us these things? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sun sucks
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:10:10PM -0500, Ansar Mohammed wrote: So I am trying to build Java on FreeBSD 7.0. I need to REGSITER to download the Timezone Java patch. After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3 months I finally get an email saying they want clarification on the acronym for my company. (no access yet to download Java patch.) This sucks man. Is there one central repository where we can get all the components required to build Java on FreeBSD? I was running 64-bit FreeBSD 7.0, but had to remove it to run Suse 11. 32-bit Fedora 9 and 64-bit Suse 11 ship with fully functional Java environments. If your primary goal is to use Java, I can recommend either of these platforms. I got a complex 3rd party Java project (Geometric Algebra graphics) installed and running with absolutely no problems on these platforms. (BTW, I had no prior experience worth mentioning with Java :-) ), ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sun sucks
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:10:10 -0500 Ansar Mohammed ans...@gmail.com wrote: After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3 months I finally get an email saying they want clarification on the acronym for my company. Well there's your problem. You gave them too much information in the first place. I usually just make-up a name as a matter of principle. Just create a new account for some made-up name, don't specify any company, download your file, and then (if you really care) go through the hoops afterwards. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Sun sucks
Been there, did that same result :) -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of RW Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:48 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sun sucks On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:10:10 -0500 Ansar Mohammed ans...@gmail.com wrote: After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3 months I finally get an email saying they want clarification on the acronym for my company. Well there's your problem. You gave them too much information in the first place. I usually just make-up a name as a matter of principle. Just create a new account for some made-up name, don't specify any company, download your file, and then (if you really care) go through the hoops afterwards. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sun sucks
Ansar Mohammed wrote: Been there, did that same result :) And in what country is the IP address you were coming from? It can make a huge difference when dealing with a company which has to comply with export regulations for some of their products. --Jon Radel j...@radel.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Sun sucks
RW wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:10:10 -0500 Ansar Mohammed ans...@gmail.com wrote: After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3 months I finally get an email saying they want clarification on the acronym for my company. Well there's your problem. You gave them too much information in the first place. I usually just make-up a name as a matter of principle. Just create a new account for some made-up name, don't specify any company, download your file, and then (if you really care) go through the hoops afterwards. Improper subject, wrong attitude. If one wishes to use a license from another product that is outside of the BSD license scope, then follow it properly. FreeBSD ( personnel) does a magnificent job of keeping outside-licensed code and objects separate from itself, and I'd rather jump through burning hoops of flame to 'add on' to the system to mend it to my needs, as opposed to having the system, and possibly its users, face legal ramifications later... If you need outside software that requires reading any sort of an 'Agreement', then follow the 'Agreement' until you get rights to use the software. FreeBSD isn't about 'easy'. It's about 'right'. Installation methods print out information about external licenses for a reason. Ask those external places how to get around their sign-ups...don't ask here. For that matter, don't answer such questions here, either. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Sun sucks
Canada. Is there an embargo ? -Original Message- From: Jon Radel [mailto:j...@radel.com] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:08 PM To: Ansar Mohammed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sun sucks Ansar Mohammed wrote: Been there, did that same result :) And in what country is the IP address you were coming from? It can make a huge difference when dealing with a company which has to comply with export regulations for some of their products. --Jon Radel j...@radel.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Sun sucks
Steve, we have ports for a reason. So that it's EASY to compile and deploy apps on FreeBSD. If we need to fireup a web browser register on a website wait three months for approval then go to 3 separate sites to MANUALLY download the software and transfer it to FreeBSD, what's the bloody point? Abiding by the software license I agree with, clearly there is no room there. But why is this process so utterly retarded for something as critical and common as Java? -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Steve Bertrand Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:16 PM To: RW Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sun sucks RW wrote: On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:10:10 -0500 Ansar Mohammed ans...@gmail.com wrote: After registering Sun complains that they don't like my ID and I need to provide more information. I create another account. Same problem. After 3 months I finally get an email saying they want clarification on the acronym for my company. Well there's your problem. You gave them too much information in the first place. I usually just make-up a name as a matter of principle. Just create a new account for some made-up name, don't specify any company, download your file, and then (if you really care) go through the hoops afterwards. Improper subject, wrong attitude. If one wishes to use a license from another product that is outside of the BSD license scope, then follow it properly. FreeBSD ( personnel) does a magnificent job of keeping outside-licensed code and objects separate from itself, and I'd rather jump through burning hoops of flame to 'add on' to the system to mend it to my needs, as opposed to having the system, and possibly its users, face legal ramifications later... If you need outside software that requires reading any sort of an 'Agreement', then follow the 'Agreement' until you get rights to use the software. FreeBSD isn't about 'easy'. It's about 'right'. Installation methods print out information about external licenses for a reason. Ask those external places how to get around their sign-ups...don't ask here. For that matter, don't answer such questions here, either. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
