Re: [TYPO]What I would like to see, or How many FreeBSD boxen are out there?
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 00:52, Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote: IMHO this is the first and oldest one. http://www.netccraft.com it should be http://www.netcraft.com Double oops. -- Aftab Jahan Subedar CEO/Software Engineer Subedar Technologies Ltd Subedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1 North Jatrabari Dhaka 1204 http://www.DhakaStockExchangeGame.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What I would like to see, or How many FreeBSD boxen are out there?
IMHO this is the first and oldest one. http://www.netccraft.com -- Aftab Jahan Subedar CEO/Software Engineer Subedar Technologies Ltd Subedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1 North Jatrabari Dhaka 1204 http://www.DhakaStockExchangeGame.com On Sunday 23 July 2006 00:09, User Freebsd wrote: On various lists, including this one, there is talk about how to we make hardware vendors sit up and take more notice of us ... alot of the negative responses back seem to be 'we are too small of a group', but, of couse, nobody out there can really give any even *reasonable* numbers of desktops and servers deployed with FreeBSD ... What I'd love to see is a *project initiated* (or FreeBSD Foundation) FreeBSD reporting mechanism similar to: http://www.mreriksson.net/uptimes/myuptimes Something just for FreeBSD users (well, all *BSD users should be invited) ... uptime not being the really big thing here, but stuff like version of FreeBSD being run, country being run in, maybe have it part dmesg on startup and report devices in use, etc ... Come up with reports like # of hosts using fxp vs em devices, etc ... although it may be a bit more difficult, I don't know, but report on specific hardware being used ... Statistics that either Core, or the FreeBSD Foundation, can use to show vendors they are talking to about what is currently in use ... but also to show developers themselves what device drivers are actually in use, that sort of thing ... Nothing that I'd think would be 'sensitive information', but information that would be useful from either a marketing, or support, point of view ... And market / promote it ... Basically, unless I'm mistaken, right now we have *nothing* to base numbers on, except maybe the netcraft report(s)? ... but, that only includes hosts running web servers ... how many are running firewalls? desktops? mail servers? etc ... We need to show vendors we aren't some hobbiest group, and towards that end, producing some sort of up to date #s would really help, I would think ... show them we are a market worth looking at ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What I would like to see, or How many FreeBSD boxen are out there?
Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote: IMHO this is the first and oldest one. http://www.netccraft.com I think you mean http://www.netcraft.com :) Especially what's that site running http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.yahoo.com - Micah ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What I would like to see, or How many FreeBSD boxen are out there?
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote: IMHO this is the first and oldest one. http://www.netccraft.com That is a web hosting survey ... it doesn't take into consideration firewalls, desktops, mail servers, file servers, etc, etc ... What I'm suggesting is some means of tracking who is using FreeBSD, what they are using it for (narrow scope, ie. web hosting, firewall, etc ... nothing fancy there), but, also, eventually extended to include information about the OS itself (none sensitive information only): Version of OS Hardware Drivers In Use (via dmesg) Physical Hardware in Use (not sure if that is possible) For instance, it would be nice to be able to go to ppl like ICP Vortex, which appear to support fbsd4 and fbsd5, but not 6.x or 7.x, and say: Hey, X out of Y FreeBSD machines running out there are running your cards, to show them that there *is* a market ... The problem is that right now, there are no concrete #s, only a bunch of speculation and guesses ... even places like Netcraft don't give a clear picture, since it only focuses on one *aspect* of the market place ... -- Aftab Jahan Subedar CEO/Software Engineer Subedar Technologies Ltd Subedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1 North Jatrabari Dhaka 1204 http://www.DhakaStockExchangeGame.com On Sunday 23 July 2006 00:09, User Freebsd wrote: On various lists, including this one, there is talk about how to we make hardware vendors sit up and take more notice of us ... alot of the negative responses back seem to be 'we are too small of a group', but, of couse, nobody out there can really give any even *reasonable* numbers of desktops and servers deployed with FreeBSD ... What I'd love to see is a *project initiated* (or FreeBSD Foundation) FreeBSD reporting mechanism similar to: http://www.mreriksson.net/uptimes/myuptimes Something just for FreeBSD users (well, all *BSD users should be invited) ... uptime not being the really big thing here, but stuff like version of FreeBSD being run, country being run in, maybe have it part dmesg on startup and report devices in use, etc ... Come up with reports like # of hosts using fxp vs em devices, etc ... although it may be a bit more difficult, I don't know, but report on specific hardware being used ... Statistics that either Core, or the FreeBSD Foundation, can use to show vendors they are talking to about what is currently in use ... but also to show developers themselves what device drivers are actually in use, that sort of thing ... Nothing that I'd think would be 'sensitive information', but information that would be useful from either a marketing, or support, point of view ... And market / promote it ... Basically, unless I'm mistaken, right now we have *nothing* to base numbers on, except maybe the netcraft report(s)? ... but, that only includes hosts running web servers ... how many are running firewalls? desktops? mail servers? etc ... We need to show vendors we aren't some hobbiest group, and towards that end, producing some sort of up to date #s would really help, I would think ... show them we are a market worth looking at ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What I would like to see, or How many FreeBSD boxen are out there?
On various lists, including this one, there is talk about how to we make hardware vendors sit up and take more notice of us ... alot of the negative responses back seem to be 'we are too small of a group', but, of couse, nobody out there can really give any even *reasonable* numbers of desktops and servers deployed with FreeBSD ... What I'd love to see is a *project initiated* (or FreeBSD Foundation) FreeBSD reporting mechanism similar to: http://www.mreriksson.net/uptimes/myuptimes Something just for FreeBSD users (well, all *BSD users should be invited) ... uptime not being the really big thing here, but stuff like version of FreeBSD being run, country being run in, maybe have it part dmesg on startup and report devices in use, etc ... Come up with reports like # of hosts using fxp vs em devices, etc ... although it may be a bit more difficult, I don't know, but report on specific hardware being used ... Statistics that either Core, or the FreeBSD Foundation, can use to show vendors they are talking to about what is currently in use ... but also to show developers themselves what device drivers are actually in use, that sort of thing ... Nothing that I'd think would be 'sensitive information', but information that would be useful from either a marketing, or support, point of view ... And market / promote it ... Basically, unless I'm mistaken, right now we have *nothing* to base numbers on, except maybe the netcraft report(s)? ... but, that only includes hosts running web servers ... how many are running firewalls? desktops? mail servers? etc ... We need to show vendors we aren't some hobbiest group, and towards that end, producing some sort of up to date #s would really help, I would think ... show them we are a market worth looking at ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What I would like to see, or How many FreeBSD boxen are out there?
On 7/23/06, User Freebsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On various lists, including this one, there is talk about how to we make hardware vendors sit up and take more notice of us ... alot of the negative responses back seem to be 'we are too small of a group', but, of couse, nobody out there can really give any even *reasonable* numbers of desktops and servers deployed with FreeBSD ... What I'd love to see is a *project initiated* (or FreeBSD Foundation) FreeBSD reporting mechanism similar to: http://www.mreriksson.net/uptimes/myuptimes Something just for FreeBSD users (well, all *BSD users should be invited) ... uptime not being the really big thing here, but stuff like version of FreeBSD being run, country being run in, maybe have it part dmesg on startup and report devices in use, etc ... Come up with reports like # of hosts using fxp vs em devices, etc ... although it may be a bit more difficult, I don't know, but report on specific hardware being used ... Statistics that either Core, or the FreeBSD Foundation, can use to show vendors they are talking to about what is currently in use ... but also to show developers themselves what device drivers are actually in use, that sort of thing ... Nothing that I'd think would be 'sensitive information', but information that would be useful from either a marketing, or support, point of view ... And market / promote it ... Basically, unless I'm mistaken, right now we have *nothing* to base numbers on, except maybe the netcraft report(s)? ... but, that only includes hosts running web servers ... how many are running firewalls? desktops? mail servers? etc ... We need to show vendors we aren't some hobbiest group, and towards that end, producing some sort of up to date #s would really help, I would think ... show them we are a market worth looking at ... why not make something similar to the linux counter, and let users register and have their registration number. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What I would like to see, or How many FreeBSD boxen are out there?
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006, jan gestre wrote: On 7/23/06, User Freebsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On various lists, including this one, there is talk about how to we make hardware vendors sit up and take more notice of us ... alot of the negative responses back seem to be 'we are too small of a group', but, of couse, nobody out there can really give any even *reasonable* numbers of desktops and servers deployed with FreeBSD ... What I'd love to see is a *project initiated* (or FreeBSD Foundation) FreeBSD reporting mechanism similar to: http://www.mreriksson.net/uptimes/myuptimes Something just for FreeBSD users (well, all *BSD users should be invited) ... uptime not being the really big thing here, but stuff like version of FreeBSD being run, country being run in, maybe have it part dmesg on startup and report devices in use, etc ... Come up with reports like # of hosts using fxp vs em devices, etc ... although it may be a bit more difficult, I don't know, but report on specific hardware being used ... Statistics that either Core, or the FreeBSD Foundation, can use to show vendors they are talking to about what is currently in use ... but also to show developers themselves what device drivers are actually in use, that sort of thing ... Nothing that I'd think would be 'sensitive information', but information that would be useful from either a marketing, or support, point of view ... And market / promote it ... Basically, unless I'm mistaken, right now we have *nothing* to base numbers on, except maybe the netcraft report(s)? ... but, that only includes hosts running web servers ... how many are running firewalls? desktops? mail servers? etc ... We need to show vendors we aren't some hobbiest group, and towards that end, producing some sort of up to date #s would really help, I would think ... show them we are a market worth looking at ... why not make something similar to the linux counter, and let users register and have their registration number. The point of the link I sent above, or other similar systems, is that its relatively self-maintaining ... you register a server/desktop with the system, as being 'owned' by you, and run a small client that polls the system periodically ... If the server gets taken offline, it automatically gets marked as being an inactive host ... I don't know how linux counter works, but any system where someone has to go to a web site to remove a host if it gets taken offline is inherently flawed from the started since a) what stops ppl from just adding hosts with nothing to back them? and b) most of us are too lazy to bother going to mark as being 'offline' Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
