What is the best way to obtain an exact copy download?--wrong md5 after downloading 5.3dsc1,2=(

2004-11-08 Thread Mark Jayson Alvarez
Good day!
  After downloading disc1 and disc2 of freebsd 5.3, my
boss told me to verify the download using md5. And to
my surprise, none of those two iso's have the same md5
as that of the md5 written in CHECKSUM.md5.

  This is the first time I ever use the md5 and for so
long, I didn't bother doing so with every huge
download I make. But then the previous cd's works
fine. My boss told me that if I continue to burn those
ISO's, somewhere within the disc, there's a broken
file and I'm gonna have a problem for sure. He also
told me that there are a lot of factors behind this..

Question:
   On the middle of my download,  how will I know if
I'm still downloading the correct file, that no packet
is being dropped and that I will end up in a perfect
mirror file download? Do you know any downloading tool
that will do just like this? Earlier, I just used the
konqueror when I downloaded those ISO's. Is it really
that hard to download? We're using E1 modems and our
internet connection is quite fast. I'm just thinking,
we are still lucky because of this. But how about
those people with low bandwidth internet connection?
Do they have a choice?

How about the fetch(1) program? How accurate is it?



Thanks.








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Re: What is the best way to obtain an exact copy download?--wrong md5 after downloading 5.3dsc1,2=(

2004-11-08 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-11-08 00:41, Mark Jayson Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good day!
   After downloading disc1 and disc2 of freebsd 5.3, my boss told me to
 verify the download using md5.

Good thinking.

 And to my surprise, none of those two iso's have the same md5 as that
 of the md5 written in CHECKSUM.md5.

Some times, if you start downloading an ISO image while it is still being
uploaded to the ftp-master server or while a mirror still fetches the same ISO
image from ftp-master, what you get is an incomplete download.  Try comparing
the sizes of the files on the remote server after a while.  If it has changed,
the ISO iamge is still being uploaded to the FTP server; wait a bit and retry.

 Question:
On the middle of my download, how will I know if I'm still downloading
 the correct file, that no packet is being dropped and that I will end up in
 a perfect mirror file download? Do you know any downloading tool that will
 do just like this? Earlier, I just used the konqueror when I downloaded
 those ISO's. Is it really that hard to download? We're using E1 modems and
 our internet connection is quite fast. I'm just thinking, we are still lucky
 because of this. But how about those people with low bandwidth internet
 connection?  Do they have a choice?

All this should be handled gracefully by the TCP network.  AFAIK, there is no
easy way to verify half of a file while it's still being downloaded over FTP.

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Re: What is the best way to obtain an exact copy download?--wrong md5 after downloading 5.3dsc1,2=(

2004-11-08 Thread cape canaveral
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:02:13 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2004-11-08 00:41, Mark Jayson Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Good day!
After downloading disc1 and disc2 of freebsd 5.3, my boss told me to
  verify the download using md5.

 Good thinking.

  And to my surprise, none of those two iso's have the same md5 as that
  of the md5 written in CHECKSUM.md5.

 Some times, if you start downloading an ISO image while it is still being
 uploaded to the ftp-master server or while a mirror still fetches the same ISO
 image from ftp-master, what you get is an incomplete download.  Try comparing
 the sizes of the files on the remote server after a while.  If it has changed,
 the ISO iamge is still being uploaded to the FTP server; wait a bit and retry.



  Question:
 On the middle of my download, how will I know if I'm still downloading
  the correct file, that no packet is being dropped and that I will end up in
  a perfect mirror file download? Do you know any downloading tool that will
  do just like this? Earlier, I just used the konqueror when I downloaded
  those ISO's. Is it really that hard to download? We're using E1 modems and
  our internet connection is quite fast. I'm just thinking, we are still lucky
  because of this. But how about those people with low bandwidth internet
  connection?  Do they have a choice?

 All this should be handled gracefully by the TCP network.  AFAIK, there is no
 easy way to verify half of a file while it's still being downloaded over FTP.



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One optoin is to use the Bittorrent download - it will do hash checks
of each piece and re-download any which fail.

Another option (if you do not want to re-download both CDs) is to have
someone with known good copies help you recover the existing files.
Two utilities which can do this are zidrav and quickpar.  I doubt very
much that more than 1MB of parity data would be required to repair
these cd images; they are probably off by only a few bytes.

-Aaron
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