In a message dated 10/9/04 3:26:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> Note that it also took quite a
On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 01:07:17PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> >"I just hope that pounding packets through a socket and
> >timing mySQL selects aren't the entirety of OUR team's arsenal."
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> >And
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> Note that it also took quite a bit a beating to get them to admit that
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> 1) They dont know the answer to the Sub
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> In a
In a message dated 10/9/04 12:56:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>"I just hope that pounding packets through a socket and
>timing mySQL selects aren't the entirety of OUR team's arsenal."
>And it's not just this sentence although this is one of the most
>blatent. You are
In a message dated 10/9/04 1:15:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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>dang, how long is this thread gonna go on? Is it that important? I see
>a lot of good questions and equally good answers on this list, but I
>think this particular thread is starting to stoop beneath us all..
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> dang, how long is this thread gonna
OK, first of all this thread is not worthwhile to people in this forum.
I'm sorry for having initially added to the noise, but I do want to try
to salvage something useful from this. If your request is sincere, then
please hear me out.
On Friday 08 October 2004 07:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
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In a message dated 10/8/04 2:25:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> You guys are the ones making the claims that 5.3 is "going to be
> so great". I just wonder how you come to that conclusion if you
> don't have any definitive tests. I dont have a release to test, so
> when i
>
> On Friday 08 October 2004 16:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> A very simple request - I do respect peoples right to state their point of
> view - but there FreeBSD has through its entire life spam aimed (at least for
> the time I have been following the delvelopment - and that goes far long
On Friday 08 October 2004 16:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A very simple request - I do respect peoples right to state their point of
view - but there FreeBSD has through its entire life spam aimed (at least for
the time I have been following the delvelopment - and that goes far longer
back that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You guys are the ones making the claims that 5.3 is "going to be
so great". I just wonder how you come to that conclusion if you don't
have any definitive tests. I dont have a release to test, so when its done
I'll test it.
6.0 is much, much better. And try downloading
On Friday 08 October 2004 08:54 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You guys are the ones making the claims that 5.3 is "going to be
> so great". I just wonder how you come to that conclusion if you
> don't have any definitive tests. I dont have a release to test, so
> when its done I'll test it.
Why
Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 11:45:09AM -0500, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
: Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
:
: >On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 11:39:05PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
: >: I'm sure that Yahoo, like any large commercial enterprise, has a whole
: >: host of speci
On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 11:45:09AM -0500, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
: Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
:
: >On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 11:39:05PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
: >: I'm sure that Yahoo, like any large commercial enterprise, has a whole
: >: host of specific customizations that th
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 03:44:13PM +0200, Remko Lodder wrote:
: Apart from that: Why do you actually want to know? It's better not to
: know the exact version since others might abuse that information and
: hack into the company. That does not feel right, well not with me :-).
I was just wonderin
Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 11:39:05PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
: I'm sure that Yahoo, like any large commercial enterprise, has a whole
: host of specific customizations that they have applied to FreeBSD,
: and their version of FreeBSD doesen't look like what we have, a
On Oct 8, 2004, at 8:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You must be a democrat Kris, because you always spin what people say
in a way such that is completely wrong when you say it. I said "the
99% of us
If there was any doubt in my mind that TM4525 was a troll, he's just
removed it.
I think it's tim
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 11:39:05PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
: I'm sure that Yahoo, like any large commercial enterprise, has a whole
: host of specific customizations that they have applied to FreeBSD,
: and their version of FreeBSD doesen't look like what we have, at least not
: where the go
On Friday 08 October 2004 11:05 am, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
> On Oct 8, 2004, at 11:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > You guys are the ones making the claims that 5.3 is "going to be
> > so great". I just wonder how you come to that conclusion if you
> > don't have any definitive tests. I dont h
On Oct 8, 2004, at 11:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You guys are the ones making the claims that 5.3 is "going to be
so great". I just wonder how you come to that conclusion if you don't
have any definitive tests. I dont have a release to test, so when its
done
I'll test it.
I think it sums it
In a message dated 10/8/04 2:37:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Kris and all,
Sorry for the top post but would you quit feeding the trolls?
Ted Mittelstaedt
PS: TM, shut up and post some benchmarks proving your side of
the argument. Not that we would believe them but
In a message dated 10/8/04 2:42:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Here is a thought.
> Why would they be running a pre-production release as a production
> server
> I have no idea what yahoo does, but I think it would be irrespondsible
> for them to attempt using 5.x on
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 6:32 AM
> To: Jonathon McKitrick
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kris Kennaway
> Subject: Re: What version of FBSD does Yahoo run?
&g
age-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Kennaway
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 3:34 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Subject: Re: What version of FBSD does Yahoo run?
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 07, 20
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 05:35:18PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 10/7/04 4:06:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> Here's one benchmark, showing UDP packet/second generation
> rate from userland on a dual xeon machine under various
> target lo
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 04:05:21PM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> But when he asked for a "pointer or reference", I was expecting
> to see a URL which pointed to some additional benchmarks. I did
> not notice any URL's in any of your replies in this thread. Did
> you think that you had includ
In a message dated 10/7/04 4:06:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Here's one benchmark, showing UDP packet/second generation
rate from userland on a dual xeon machine under various
target loads:
Desired Optimal 5.x-UP 5.x-SMP 4.x-UP 4.x-SMP
5 5000
At 11:15 AM -0700 10/7/04, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > why don't you post some of these impressive benchmarks to
> > substantiate your seemingly flimsy position? On a single
> > processor system please, for the 99% of us who don't use
> > SMP. Ho
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 02:10:55PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 10/7/04 1:15:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:41:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > In a message dated 10/7/04 10:17:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, obscu
In a message dated 10/7/04 1:15:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:41:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 10/7/04 10:17:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, obscurity
Kris
> writes:
> Well, it's vast :)
> Kris
> We're waiting..5.3 is
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 12:41:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 10/7/04 10:17:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, obscurity Kris
> writes:
> Well, it's vast :)
> Kris
> We're waiting..5.3 is in beta and ready for your tests. Other benchmarks
> show very good results compared to
In a message dated 10/7/04 10:17:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, obscurity Kris
writes:
Well, it's vast :)
Kris
We're waiting..5.3 is in beta and ready for your tests. Other benchmarks
show very good results compared to 4.x.
Kris
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> Subject: Re: What version of FBSD does Yahoo run?
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>
> On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 10:04:59AM -0400, Bigelow, Andrea L. wrote:
> > Can anyone speak to performance improvement if the debug flags are
> removed?
>
> Well, it's vast :
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 07:04:10AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 09:55:37AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > In a message dated 10/6/04 6:47:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 04:42:24PM -0400, Bigelow, Andrea L. wrote:
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Subject: Re: What version of FBSD does Yahoo run?
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 10:04:59AM -0400, Bigelow, Andrea L. wrote:
> Can anyone speak to performance improvement if the debug flags are removed?
Well, it's vast :) 5.3 (i.e. the RELENG_5 branch) has them turned off
already in preparation for the release.
Kris
pgpBqbH2Kp87m.pgp
Description: P
Can anyone speak to performance improvement if the debug flags are removed?
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Subject: Re: What version of FBSD does
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 09:55:37AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 10/6/04 6:47:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 04:42:24PM -0400, Bigelow, Andrea L. wrote:
> > Where's the documentation? I'd like to see this for myself.
>
>
In a message dated 10/6/04 6:47:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 04:42:24PM -0400, Bigelow, Andrea L. wrote:
> Where's the documentation? I'd like to see this for myself.
There is none, because Mr./Ms. TM4525 is making up his/her "facts" to
suit the
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 04:42:24PM -0400, Bigelow, Andrea L. wrote:
> Where's the documentation? I'd like to see this for myself.
There is none, because Mr./Ms. TM4525 is making up his/her "facts" to
suit their assertion. The last time this claim was made it was
refuted and TM4525 promised to g
Considering that its been well documented and admitted that 5.x is 1/3 the
speed of 4.x at this point, do you really think they've migrated production
boxes?
Most likely this is in reference to a few lines in /usr/src/UPDATING,
stating that all of the debug features are turned on by default in 5.
ssage-
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> > Considering that its been well docu
Bigelow, Andrea L. wrote:
Where's the documentation? I'd like to see this for myself.
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Where's the documentation? I'd like to see this for myself.
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Considerin
Considering that its been well documented and admitted that 5.x is 1/3 the
speed of 4.x at this point, do you really think they've migrated production
boxes?
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On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 09:32:27AM -0400, Gerard Samuel wrote:
: Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
: >On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 09:07:44AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
: >: On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 05:01:32PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
: >: >
: >: > I would expect they are running 4.x, but does anyone k
Gerard Samuel wrote:
Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 09:07:44AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
: On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 05:01:32PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
: > : > I would expect they are running 4.x, but does anyone know if
they have
: > migrated any production boxes to 5.
Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 09:07:44AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
: On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 05:01:32PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
: >
: > I would expect they are running 4.x, but does anyone know if they have
: > migrated any production boxes to 5.x? Are they contribu
On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 09:07:44AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
: On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 05:01:32PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
: >
: > I would expect they are running 4.x, but does anyone know if they have
: > migrated any production boxes to 5.x? Are they contributing any code to
: > eithe
On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 05:01:32PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
>
> I would expect they are running 4.x, but does anyone know if they have
> migrated any production boxes to 5.x? Are they contributing any code to
> either branch?
Yes, a number of committers work for Yahoo.
kris
pgpwOBwad7
I would expect they are running 4.x, but does anyone know if they have
migrated any production boxes to 5.x? Are they contributing any code to
either branch?
jm
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