Re: Xorg ATi/Radeon drivers on 7.0-STABLE?

2008-03-26 Thread Eduardo Morras

At 19:35 25/03/2008, C Verboom wrote:


Hi All,

Just new here, so if this has been dealt with before, pls excuse me.
I've seen only a few posts dealing w/ ATi drivers (ati and radeon) on
v7.0-STABLE and Xorg, and together with my own experience I'm inclined to
suspect there's something wrong with this combo. Or wrong... it may need
special attention, but I lack the knowledge to prove or find a definitive
answer, and you ppl here might.

For a while I've been running 6.2-STABLE w/ Xorg on a Dell Latitude C610.
Worked nicely @ 1400x1050, no problems.
A few days ago I've performed a fresh install of 7.0-STABLE. The install was
done for User/X-User, nothing (cvs, ports, etc) has been added or modified
apart from network settings to be able to ssh/scp.
The problem: there's no way that I can get a decent graphics resolution like
I was used to. The only one xorg.conf setting that resulted in stable
graphics was 'Driver vga' and 'Mode 640x480'.
For the last 2 days (with the help of numerous Ati and Xorg-related posts on
the net and c/p from my old xorg.conf) I've been trying to apply any
reasonable setting using the ati and radeon drivers, only to see a
blurred screen: HorizSync and/or VertSync way off, flickering and scrolling
bars. No visible diff in the blurr w/ modified sync numbers, but no hang-ups
as others seem to have stumbled upon: I can always kill the server w/
C-A-BS. Sometimes something seemed to happen (KDE starting? I never waited
long before I killed the server...) as I did see a partial light-colored
change in the blurr.
Comparing the log of my old setup (I've put the image back twice over to
check), there's a few -in my little experience- important differences with
output of drivers and modules, or at least the way things such as capacities
and capabilities are displayed, so under the hood there's so much changes
that I cannot reasonably grasp what exactly is different and in what way...
for which I apologize, but I'm bold enough to suspect..

So: is the problem with me or with the new ... (drivers, modules, ???)


I had similar problems with non-standard monitor sizes. My monitor 
supports 1440x900 and have those strange flckers when try that mode. 
All works fine when i switch on the DDC option and disabled the Horiz 
and Vertical Sync Hz.


HTH


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Re: Xorg ATi/Radeon drivers on 7.0-STABLE?

2008-03-26 Thread C Verboom
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --On March 25, 2008 7:35:51 PM +0100 C Verboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ...
  For a while I've been running 6.2-STABLE w/ Xorg on a Dell Latitude
 C610.
  Worked nicely @ 1400x1050, no problems.
  ...


Mh, I think I should have included here that the video card is an ATi Radeon
Mobility M6, and the native resolution of the panel is 1400x1050 (reported
as Samsung LTN150P1-L02).

 The problem: there's no way that I can get a decent graphics resolution
  like I was used to. The only one xorg.conf setting that resulted in
  stable graphics was 'Driver vga' and 'Mode 640x480'.

 Try the new radeonhd driver.

 If that doesn't work, post the relevant portion of your Xorg.log file
 and/or dmesg.


Don't think that'll do, as -from what I've come to understand so far- this
development is geared towards the modern, more hi-end cards. I can see that,
no complaints.
I'll try the vesa driver first before diving into your proposal; thx anyway.

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Re: Xorg ATi/Radeon drivers on 7.0-STABLE?

2008-03-26 Thread C Verboom
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --On March 25, 2008 7:35:51 PM +0100 C Verboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ...
  The problem: there's no way that I can get a decent graphics resolution
  like I was used to. The only one xorg.conf setting that resulted in
  stable graphics was 'Driver vga' and 'Mode 640x480'.

 Try the new radeonhd driver.


As I wrote earlier, I used the vesa driver and that worked OK for the X
server part. Have to install KDE yet (but might move to 8-current in the
meantime, as this is a trial-and-error laptop installation anyway).
Thx for your help!

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Xorg ATi/Radeon drivers on 7.0-STABLE?

2008-03-25 Thread C Verboom
Hi All,

Just new here, so if this has been dealt with before, pls excuse me.
I've seen only a few posts dealing w/ ATi drivers (ati and radeon) on
v7.0-STABLE and Xorg, and together with my own experience I'm inclined to
suspect there's something wrong with this combo. Or wrong... it may need
special attention, but I lack the knowledge to prove or find a definitive
answer, and you ppl here might.

For a while I've been running 6.2-STABLE w/ Xorg on a Dell Latitude C610.
Worked nicely @ 1400x1050, no problems.
A few days ago I've performed a fresh install of 7.0-STABLE. The install was
done for User/X-User, nothing (cvs, ports, etc) has been added or modified
apart from network settings to be able to ssh/scp.
The problem: there's no way that I can get a decent graphics resolution like
I was used to. The only one xorg.conf setting that resulted in stable
graphics was 'Driver vga' and 'Mode 640x480'.
For the last 2 days (with the help of numerous Ati and Xorg-related posts on
the net and c/p from my old xorg.conf) I've been trying to apply any
reasonable setting using the ati and radeon drivers, only to see a
blurred screen: HorizSync and/or VertSync way off, flickering and scrolling
bars. No visible diff in the blurr w/ modified sync numbers, but no hang-ups
as others seem to have stumbled upon: I can always kill the server w/
C-A-BS. Sometimes something seemed to happen (KDE starting? I never waited
long before I killed the server...) as I did see a partial light-colored
change in the blurr.
Comparing the log of my old setup (I've put the image back twice over to
check), there's a few -in my little experience- important differences with
output of drivers and modules, or at least the way things such as capacities
and capabilities are displayed, so under the hood there's so much changes
that I cannot reasonably grasp what exactly is different and in what way...
for which I apologize, but I'm bold enough to suspect..

So: is the problem with me or with the new ... (drivers, modules, ???)

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Re: Xorg ATi/Radeon drivers on 7.0-STABLE?

2008-03-25 Thread Aline de Freitas
Em Tuesday 25 March 2008 15:35:51 C Verboom escreveu:
 Hi All,

 Just new here, so if this has been dealt with before, pls excuse me.
 I've seen only a few posts dealing w/ ATi drivers (ati and radeon) on
 v7.0-STABLE and Xorg, and together with my own experience I'm inclined to
 suspect there's something wrong with this combo. Or wrong... it may need
 special attention, but I lack the knowledge to prove or find a definitive
 answer, and you ppl here might.

 For a while I've been running 6.2-STABLE w/ Xorg on a Dell Latitude C610.
 Worked nicely @ 1400x1050, no problems.
 A few days ago I've performed a fresh install of 7.0-STABLE. The install
 was done for User/X-User, nothing (cvs, ports, etc) has been added or
 modified apart from network settings to be able to ssh/scp.
 The problem: there's no way that I can get a decent graphics resolution
 like I was used to. The only one xorg.conf setting that resulted in stable
 graphics was 'Driver vga' and 'Mode 640x480'.
 For the last 2 days (with the help of numerous Ati and Xorg-related posts
 on the net and c/p from my old xorg.conf) I've been trying to apply any
 reasonable setting using the ati and radeon drivers, only to see a
 blurred screen: HorizSync and/or VertSync way off, flickering and scrolling
 bars. No visible diff in the blurr w/ modified sync numbers, but no
 hang-ups as others seem to have stumbled upon: I can always kill the server
 w/ C-A-BS. Sometimes something seemed to happen (KDE starting? I never
 waited long before I killed the server...) as I did see a partial
 light-colored change in the blurr.
 Comparing the log of my old setup (I've put the image back twice over to
 check), there's a few -in my little experience- important differences with
 output of drivers and modules, or at least the way things such as
 capacities and capabilities are displayed, so under the hood there's so
 much changes that I cannot reasonably grasp what exactly is different and
 in what way... for which I apologize, but I'm bold enough to suspect..

 So: is the problem with me or with the new ... (drivers, modules, ???)

It looks like an ati driver issue.

I suggest you to first, try the latest git tree driver by doing the following:
git-clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati
cd xf86-video-ati
./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/local --mandir=/usr/local/man
make

Then deinstall the xf86-video-ati from the ports tree:
pkg_deinstall xf86-video-ati-6.8.0_1

and install the one from the git tree:
make install

If you see the same issues with the driver from the git tree, you should 
report it to the xorg mailing list at:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg

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Re: Xorg ATi/Radeon drivers on 7.0-STABLE?

2008-03-25 Thread Isaac Mushinsky
If you haven't done that yet, try recompiling xorg-server without HAL (make
config and check it off). I don't know why, but strange things like these
happened to me too until HAL support was disabled.

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Aline de Freitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Em Tuesday 25 March 2008 15:35:51 C Verboom escreveu:
  Hi All,
 
  Just new here, so if this has been dealt with before, pls excuse me.
  I've seen only a few posts dealing w/ ATi drivers (ati and radeon)
 on
  v7.0-STABLE and Xorg, and together with my own experience I'm inclined
 to
  suspect there's something wrong with this combo. Or wrong... it may
 need
  special attention, but I lack the knowledge to prove or find a
 definitive
  answer, and you ppl here might.
 
  For a while I've been running 6.2-STABLE w/ Xorg on a Dell Latitude
 C610.
  Worked nicely @ 1400x1050, no problems.
  A few days ago I've performed a fresh install of 7.0-STABLE. The install
  was done for User/X-User, nothing (cvs, ports, etc) has been added or
  modified apart from network settings to be able to ssh/scp.
  The problem: there's no way that I can get a decent graphics resolution
  like I was used to. The only one xorg.conf setting that resulted in
 stable
  graphics was 'Driver vga' and 'Mode 640x480'.
  For the last 2 days (with the help of numerous Ati and Xorg-related
 posts
  on the net and c/p from my old xorg.conf) I've been trying to apply any
  reasonable setting using the ati and radeon drivers, only to see a
  blurred screen: HorizSync and/or VertSync way off, flickering and
 scrolling
  bars. No visible diff in the blurr w/ modified sync numbers, but no
  hang-ups as others seem to have stumbled upon: I can always kill the
 server
  w/ C-A-BS. Sometimes something seemed to happen (KDE starting? I never
  waited long before I killed the server...) as I did see a partial
  light-colored change in the blurr.
  Comparing the log of my old setup (I've put the image back twice over to
  check), there's a few -in my little experience- important differences
 with
  output of drivers and modules, or at least the way things such as
  capacities and capabilities are displayed, so under the hood there's so
  much changes that I cannot reasonably grasp what exactly is different
 and
  in what way... for which I apologize, but I'm bold enough to suspect..
 
  So: is the problem with me or with the new ... (drivers, modules, ???)

 It looks like an ati driver issue.

 I suggest you to first, try the latest git tree driver by doing the
 following:
 git-clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati
 cd xf86-video-ati
 ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/local --mandir=/usr/local/man
 make

 Then deinstall the xf86-video-ati from the ports tree:
 pkg_deinstall xf86-video-ati-6.8.0_1

 and install the one from the git tree:
 make install

 If you see the same issues with the driver from the git tree, you should
 report it to the xorg mailing list at:
 http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg

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Re: Xorg ATi/Radeon drivers on 7.0-STABLE?

2008-03-25 Thread Paul Schmehl

--On March 25, 2008 7:35:51 PM +0100 C Verboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi All,

Just new here, so if this has been dealt with before, pls excuse me.
I've seen only a few posts dealing w/ ATi drivers (ati and radeon) on
v7.0-STABLE and Xorg, and together with my own experience I'm inclined to
suspect there's something wrong with this combo. Or wrong... it may
need special attention, but I lack the knowledge to prove or find a
definitive answer, and you ppl here might.

For a while I've been running 6.2-STABLE w/ Xorg on a Dell Latitude C610.
Worked nicely @ 1400x1050, no problems.
A few days ago I've performed a fresh install of 7.0-STABLE. The install
was done for User/X-User, nothing (cvs, ports, etc) has been added or
modified apart from network settings to be able to ssh/scp.
The problem: there's no way that I can get a decent graphics resolution
like I was used to. The only one xorg.conf setting that resulted in
stable graphics was 'Driver vga' and 'Mode 640x480'.


Try the new radeonhd driver.

If that doesn't work, post the relevant portion of your Xorg.log file 
and/or dmesg.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/

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