Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6?

2009-07-20 Thread Tom Worster
On 7/16/09 6:12 PM, Maxim Khitrov mkhit...@gmail.com wrote: I'd love to hear about any test results you may get comparing software with hardware raid. I received the hardware yesterday. There was a last minute change due to cost. Instead of getting 4x 2TB drives I opted for 6x 1TB. This

Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6?

2009-07-16 Thread Maxim Khitrov
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Richard Mahlerweinmahle...@yahoo.com wrote: Just as a question: how ARE you planning on backing this beast up?  While I don't want to sound like a worry-wort, I have had odd things happen at the worst of times.  RAID cards fail, power supplies let out the

Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6?

2009-07-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
Richard Mahlerwein wrote: With 4 drives, you could get much, much higher performance out of RAID10 (which is alternatively called RAID0+1 or RAID1+0 depending on the manufacturer Uh -- no. RAID10 and RAID0+1 are superficially similar but quite different things. The main differentiator is

Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6?

2009-07-14 Thread Adam Townsend
A bit of reading shows that ZFS, if it's stable enough, has some really great features that would be nice on such a large pile o' drives. See http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSQuickStartGuide I guess the last question I'll ask (as any more may uncover my ignorance) is if you need to use hardware

Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6?

2009-07-14 Thread Richard Mahlerwein
--- On Tue, 7/14/09, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: From: Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6? To: mahle...@yahoo.com Cc: Free BSD Questions list freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 4:23

Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6?

2009-07-13 Thread Richard Mahlerwein
--- On Sun, 7/12/09, Maxim Khitrov mkhit...@gmail.com wrote: From: Maxim Khitrov mkhit...@gmail.com Subject: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6? To: Free BSD Questions list freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 11:47 PM Hello all, I'm about to build a new file server

Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6?

2009-07-13 Thread Richard Mahlerwein
--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Richard Mahlerwein mahle...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Richard Mahlerwein mahle...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6? To: Free BSD Questions list freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 1:29 PM --- On Sun, 7/12/09, Maxim Khitrov

Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6?

2009-07-13 Thread Maxim Khitrov
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Richard Mahlerweinmahle...@yahoo.com wrote: Your mileage may vary, but... I would investigate either using more spindles if you want to stick to RAID6, or perhaps using another RAID level if you will be with 4 drives for a while.  The reasoning is that

Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6?

2009-07-13 Thread Richard Mahlerwein
--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Maxim Khitrov mkhit...@gmail.com wrote: From: Maxim Khitrov mkhit...@gmail.com Subject: Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6? To: mahle...@yahoo.com Cc: Free BSD Questions list freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 2:02 PM On Mon, Jul 13, 2009

Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6?

2009-07-13 Thread Maxim Khitrov
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Richard Mahlerweinmahle...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Mon, 7/13/09, Maxim Khitrov mkhit...@gmail.com wrote: From: Maxim Khitrov mkhit...@gmail.com Subject: Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6? To: mahle...@yahoo.com Cc: Free BSD Questions list freebsd

Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6?

2009-07-13 Thread Tom Worster
On 7/13/09 3:23 PM, Maxim Khitrov mkhit...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Richard Mahlerweinmahle...@yahoo.com wrote: I guess the last question I'll ask (as any more may uncover my ignorance) is if you need to use hardware RAID at all? It seems both UFS2 and ZFS can do

Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6?

2009-07-13 Thread Richard Mahlerwein
--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Maxim Khitrov mkhit...@gmail.com wrote: From: Maxim Khitrov mkhit...@gmail.com Subject: Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6? To: mahle...@yahoo.com Cc: Free BSD Questions list freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 3:23 PM On Mon, Jul 13, 2009

Re: ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6?

2009-07-13 Thread FBSD UG
A bit of reading shows that ZFS, if it's stable enough, has some really great features that would be nice on such a large pile o' drives. See http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSQuickStartGuide I guess the last question I'll ask (as any more may uncover my ignorance) is if you need to use

ZFS or UFS for 4TB hardware RAID6?

2009-07-12 Thread Maxim Khitrov
Hello all, I'm about to build a new file server using 3ware 9690SA-8E controller and 4x Western Digital RE4-GP 2TB drives in RAID6. It is likely to grow in the future up to 10TB. I may use FreeBSD 8 on this one, since the release will likely be made by the time this server goes into production.