Re: backup terminal title
Dominic Fandrey wrote: per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: I wish to use the \033]0;%s\007 sequence in a shell-script to set the title of a terminal. But only if I am able to undo it. My requirement is that this must be done without using anything outside the base system. There is an escape sequence which will cause the terminal to echo back its current title, but it's a bit tricky to use given only base-system tools because the echo ends with, IIRC, \007 rather than \n. It may be possible in some shells to temporarily set the line-end character to \007. You probably also want to (somehow) cover problematic cases like terminals that don't reply to the inquiry even though TERMCAP implies that they should. That actually doesn't sound tricky at all, remember that the original sequence to change the title also ends with \007. Where can I find this magical sequence? I've been trying to read: http://www.xfree86.org/current/ctlseqs.html But the Syntax is really cryptic. I finally got it: printf \033[22;0t This stores the current icon and window titles on a stack. printf \033[23;0t This restores them from the stack. It works fine with xterm, has no effect on rxvt-unicode (which I am using), though. That might well be a termcap problem. I've got to look into this. -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: backup terminal title
On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:49:54AM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: Dominic Fandrey wrote: per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: I wish to use the \033]0;%s\007 sequence in a shell-script to set the title of a terminal. But only if I am able to undo it. My requirement is that this must be done without using anything outside the base system. There is an escape sequence which will cause the terminal to echo back its current title, but it's a bit tricky to use given only base-system tools because the echo ends with, IIRC, \007 rather than \n. It may be possible in some shells to temporarily set the line-end character to \007. You probably also want to (somehow) cover problematic cases like terminals that don't reply to the inquiry even though TERMCAP implies that they should. That actually doesn't sound tricky at all, remember that the original sequence to change the title also ends with \007. Where can I find this magical sequence? I've been trying to read: http://www.xfree86.org/current/ctlseqs.html But the Syntax is really cryptic. I finally got it: printf \033[22;0t This stores the current icon and window titles on a stack. printf \033[23;0t This restores them from the stack. It works fine with xterm, has no effect on rxvt-unicode (which I am using), though. That might well be a termcap problem. I've got to look into this. Not a termcap problem. A terminal problem rather. This storing title on a stack stuff is something very few terminals support. Recent xterms does, but few if any others. Other terminals will at best have sequences for set title and read current title. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: backup terminal title
Erik Trulsson wrote: On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:49:54AM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: Dominic Fandrey wrote: per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: I wish to use the \033]0;%s\007 sequence in a shell-script to set the title of a terminal. But only if I am able to undo it. My requirement is that this must be done without using anything outside the base system. There is an escape sequence which will cause the terminal to echo back its current title, but it's a bit tricky to use given only base-system tools because the echo ends with, IIRC, \007 rather than \n. It may be possible in some shells to temporarily set the line-end character to \007. You probably also want to (somehow) cover problematic cases like terminals that don't reply to the inquiry even though TERMCAP implies that they should. That actually doesn't sound tricky at all, remember that the original sequence to change the title also ends with \007. Where can I find this magical sequence? I've been trying to read: http://www.xfree86.org/current/ctlseqs.html But the Syntax is really cryptic. I finally got it: printf \033[22;0t This stores the current icon and window titles on a stack. printf \033[23;0t This restores them from the stack. It works fine with xterm, has no effect on rxvt-unicode (which I am using), though. That might well be a termcap problem. I've got to look into this. Not a termcap problem. A terminal problem rather. This storing title on a stack stuff is something very few terminals support. Recent xterms does, but few if any others. You're right my testing confirms that. I used the official termcap info from urxvt (needed some reformatting to use it) and it didn't fix the problem. Other terminals will at best have sequences for set title and read current title. Unfortunately the sequence to return the title seems to be implemented (it returns the surrounding sequence as described in http://invisible-island.net/xterm/ctlseqs/ctlseqs.html), but the string in there is empty. I contacted the main developer of rxvt-unicode with my problem. I figure the stack solution is the most traditional and convenient approch in my opinion. Maybe he'll agree. -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: backup terminal title
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 10:04:49PM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: What's the sequence for reading the terminal title? If I remembered it I'd have included it :) The first 3 results from Googling xterm escape sequences are This is where to start (the other ones are older versions): http://invisible-island.net/xterm/ctlseqs/ctlseqs.html By the way, it's the first hit when I ask google the same question. rtfm.etla.org/xterm/ctlseq.html www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Xterm-Title.html www.kitebird.com/csh-tcsh-book/ctlseqs.pdf I'd expect it to be in at least one of them. That's a nice assumption. However... -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net pgp34PRPxLogu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: backup terminal title
On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:49:54AM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: I finally got it: printf \033[22;0t This stores the current icon and window titles on a stack. printf \033[23;0t This restores them from the stack. It works fine with xterm, has no effect on rxvt-unicode (which I am using), though. I wouldn't expect it to work with the other terminals - it takes usually a year or more before features from xterm get copied into other programs. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net pgp9O40FX1T1V.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: backup terminal title
On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:49:54AM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: I finally got it: printf \033[22;0t This stores the current icon and window titles on a stack. printf \033[23;0t This restores them from the stack. It works fine with xterm, has no effect on rxvt-unicode (which I am using), though. I wouldn't expect it to work with the other terminals - it takes usually a year or more before features from xterm get copied into other programs. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net pgpxj4XVJjr07.pgp Description: PGP signature
backup terminal title
I just started to wonder how portmaster changes the window title of my terminal and why it doesn't change it back when it terminates. Some digging in the portmaster code showed up an escape sequence: printf \033]0;%s\007 YOUR TEXT GOES HERE Unfortunately I am entirely clueless as to how one could backup the old title string to restore it upon termination. It seems to me this ought to be a precondition to using this kind of feature. -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: backup terminal title
El día Saturday, February 06, 2010 a las 01:38:11PM +0100, Dominic Fandrey escribió: I just started to wonder how portmaster changes the window title of my terminal and why it doesn't change it back when it terminates. Some digging in the portmaster code showed up an escape sequence: printf \033]0;%s\007 YOUR TEXT GOES HERE Unfortunately I am entirely clueless as to how one could backup the old title string to restore it upon termination. It seems to me this ought to be a precondition to using this kind of feature. Play around with xwininfo(1), like: $ xwininfo -tree -root | fgrep xterm which prints the titles for all your XTerm windows. HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Vote NO to EU The Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: backup terminal title
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 01:38:11PM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote: I just started to wonder how portmaster changes the window title of my terminal and why it doesn't change it back when it terminates. Some digging in the portmaster code showed up an escape sequence: printf \033]0;%s\007 YOUR TEXT GOES HERE Unfortunately I am entirely clueless as to how one could backup the old title string to restore it upon termination. It seems to me this ought to be a precondition to using this kind of feature. It can, depending - some people object to the control sequence which can retrieve the previous value. I added a push/pop stack for xterm last year which can work around that (transparently). I used that in vile (vi like emacs), and I made a fix for 'screen' which uses it. see http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.log.html#xterm_251 For other terminals - some have disabled the objectionable feature, some have not. (Some will eventually copy the push/pop feature ;-) -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net pgpdNZr7YsZSr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: backup terminal title
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 01:55:55PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Saturday, February 06, 2010 a las 01:38:11PM +0100, Dominic Fandrey escribió: I just started to wonder how portmaster changes the window title of my terminal and why it doesn't change it back when it terminates. Some digging in the portmaster code showed up an escape sequence: printf \033]0;%s\007 YOUR TEXT GOES HERE Unfortunately I am entirely clueless as to how one could backup the old title string to restore it upon termination. It seems to me this ought to be a precondition to using this kind of feature. Play around with xwininfo(1), like: $ xwininfo -tree -root | fgrep xterm which prints the titles for all your XTerm windows. iirc, vim does something like this, but it has the potential for being very slow (ymmv). -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net pgprUhQe4zlss.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: backup terminal title
Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Saturday, February 06, 2010 a las 01:38:11PM +0100, Dominic Fandrey escribió: I just started to wonder how portmaster changes the window title of my terminal and why it doesn't change it back when it terminates. Some digging in the portmaster code showed up an escape sequence: printf \033]0;%s\007 YOUR TEXT GOES HERE Unfortunately I am entirely clueless as to how one could backup the old title string to restore it upon termination. It seems to me this ought to be a precondition to using this kind of feature. Play around with xwininfo(1), like: $ xwininfo -tree -root | fgrep xterm which prints the titles for all your XTerm windows. Nice, but I need something that works with base system components. Like an escape sequence that causes the terminal to reset its title. Regards -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: backup terminal title
On 06/02/2010 13:55, Dominic Fandrey wrote: Nice, but I need something that works with base system components. Like an escape sequence that causes the terminal to reset its title. Something like this for tcsh: set prompt = '%{\033]0;%...@%m:%/\007%}%B%m%b:%c03:%# ' Sets the window title to 'u...@hostname:/current/directory'. Porting this escape sequence to other shells left as an exercise for the student. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard, Flat 3 Black Earth Consulting Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW Free and Open Source Solutions Tel: +44 (0)1843 580647 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: backup terminal title
Matthew Seaman wrote: On 06/02/2010 13:55, Dominic Fandrey wrote: Nice, but I need something that works with base system components. Like an escape sequence that causes the terminal to reset its title. Something like this for tcsh: set prompt = '%{\033]0;%...@%m:%/\007%}%B%m%b:%c03:%# ' Sets the window title to 'u...@hostname:/current/directory'. Porting this escape sequence to other shells left as an exercise for the student. Already experimented with that, but it makes tcsh believe the prompt is longer than it really is. So it will blow up when you move your cursor around in long commands. Also this doesn't really relate to the question, does it? -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: backup terminal title
Dominic Fandrey wrote: Matthew Seaman wrote: On 06/02/2010 13:55, Dominic Fandrey wrote: Nice, but I need something that works with base system components. Like an escape sequence that causes the terminal to reset its title. Something like this for tcsh: set prompt = '%{\033]0;%...@%m:%/\007%}%B%m%b:%c03:%# ' Sets the window title to 'u...@hostname:/current/directory'. Porting this escape sequence to other shells left as an exercise for the student. Also this doesn't really relate to the question, does it? I realize my wording should be clearer. I wish to use the \033]0;%s\007 sequence in a shell-script to set the title of a terminal. But only if I am able to undo it. My requirement is that this must be done without using anything outside the base system. -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: backup terminal title
I wish to use the \033]0;%s\007 sequence in a shell-script to set the title of a terminal. But only if I am able to undo it. My requirement is that this must be done without using anything outside the base system. There is an escape sequence which will cause the terminal to echo back its current title, but it's a bit tricky to use given only base-system tools because the echo ends with, IIRC, \007 rather than \n. It may be possible in some shells to temporarily set the line-end character to \007. You probably also want to (somehow) cover problematic cases like terminals that don't reply to the inquiry even though TERMCAP implies that they should. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: backup terminal title
On Sat, 6 Feb 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: I wish to use the \033]0;%s\007 sequence in a shell-script to set the title of a terminal. But only if I am able to undo it. My requirement is that this must be done without using anything outside the base system. There is an escape sequence which will cause the terminal to echo back its current title, but it's a bit tricky to use given only base-system tools because the echo ends with, IIRC, \007 rather than \n. It may be possible in some shells to temporarily set the line-end character to \007. You probably also want to (somehow) cover problematic cases like terminals that don't reply to the inquiry even though TERMCAP implies that they should. % printf \033]0;Title Here\007 What's the sequence for reading the terminal title? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: backup terminal title
Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: What's the sequence for reading the terminal title? If I remembered it I'd have included it :) The first 3 results from Googling xterm escape sequences are rtfm.etla.org/xterm/ctlseq.html www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Xterm-Title.html www.kitebird.com/csh-tcsh-book/ctlseqs.pdf I'd expect it to be in at least one of them. (#4 may be a miss, but the next 5 also look promising.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: backup terminal title
On Sat, 6 Feb 2010, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: What's the sequence for reading the terminal title? If I remembered it I'd have included it :) I did some unsuccessful searching for query xterm title earlier today. The first 3 results from Googling xterm escape sequences are rtfm.etla.org/xterm/ctlseq.html That one has it: printf \033];badexample\007 This sets the title in both xterm and Terminal. printf \033[21;t\n That brings back the title in Terminal, with a leading l... and in the keyboard buffer. Doesn't work in xterm, possibly because xterm is pickier about the exact sequence. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: backup terminal title
per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: I wish to use the \033]0;%s\007 sequence in a shell-script to set the title of a terminal. But only if I am able to undo it. My requirement is that this must be done without using anything outside the base system. There is an escape sequence which will cause the terminal to echo back its current title, but it's a bit tricky to use given only base-system tools because the echo ends with, IIRC, \007 rather than \n. It may be possible in some shells to temporarily set the line-end character to \007. You probably also want to (somehow) cover problematic cases like terminals that don't reply to the inquiry even though TERMCAP implies that they should. That actually doesn't sound tricky at all, remember that the original sequence to change the title also ends with \007. Where can I find this magical sequence? I've been trying to read: http://www.xfree86.org/current/ctlseqs.html But the Syntax is really cryptic. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org