Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-13 Thread Steve Franks
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:52:38PM +0100, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> Gary Kline wrote: >> >On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:46:56AM +0100, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> >>Hi Gary >> >> >> > Do you build your hardware from the tower

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:52:38PM +0100, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > >On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:46:56AM +0100, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > >>Hi Gary > >> > > Do you build your hardware from the tower case up? ---Green is > > "in" these days; so maybe some of us, or each

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-12 Thread Chris Whitehouse
Gary Kline wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:46:56AM +0100, Chris Whitehouse wrote: Hi Gary Just back from hols so hope I'm not too late to add 2c. If you do go for new machines it's worth doing some research. I found there's no single component to go for when aiming for energy efficiency, you

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-11 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:46:56AM +0100, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > > Hi Gary > > Just back from hols so hope I'm not too late to add 2c. If you do go for > new machines it's worth doing some research. I found there's no single > component to go for when aiming for energy efficiency, you need to

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Whitehouse
Gary Kline wrote: Folks, Actually, I have two 'general-computer' type questions, but it might be better to ask them in separate posts. First about FBSD (6.x or 7.x) and newer vs older computers. First, 7.0 seems as stable or more so than its predecessor. It ma

What is the best kind of computer, overall? [was: Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......]

2008-08-07 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 07:10:59AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 05:07:08PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > This brings me to my next question which is:: It it better to > > buy a proprietary make like Dell or HP or stick to something > > more generic? Let's

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-06 Thread Matthew Seaman
Gary Kline wrote: I kep track on the load on my main server, and it is rarely above 0.20. If the load is a poor metric of power use, what is better? (My new `Watt-o-Meter' is checking the power right now, but I would like to know what drink the most juice: disk,

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-06 Thread Mike Clarke
On Tuesday 05 August 2008, Gary Kline wrote: > but what is your > best guuess about my old 1998 HP's (400MHz) compared to a > newer, generic 1.8GHz processor?  IIRC, my AMD 2.8GHz uproc sucks up > around 75watts; the Intel was maybe 35w. If energy is an issue consider some of the newer lo

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 05:07:08PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > This brings me to my next question which is:: It it better to > buy a proprietary make like Dell or HP or stick to something > more generic? Let's assume that i could handle the hardware end > myself. what

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-05 Thread David Kelly
On Aug 5, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] {1004} uptime 1:30PM up 670 days, 21:08, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 I found a 10G drive in the trash yesterday. Would one day be a nice upgrade for the 4G drive in the above. or add it, and use atacontrol det

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-05 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:08:52PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:45:28PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 02:24:06PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:56:12AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > > > the datasheets for

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-05 Thread Vincent Hoffman
Gary Kline wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 02:24:06PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:56:12AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: the datasheets for the 40G drives are lost lost. Oh, come now! If you still know what make and model the drives are, the datasheets

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-05 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:45:28PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 02:24:06PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:56:12AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > the datasheets for the 40G drives are lost lost. > > > > Oh, come now! If you still know what ma

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
exactly what hardware you have. A good rule of thumb is 10W for each disk drive, but some were much higher. Pull the data sheets for your drives. A Kill-A-Watt on the power cord is the best way to answer the total question. My old ancient Dell Optiplex running 5.5 draws about 60 watts including t

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
and stay at the current 400MHz speed? older computers usually take less power, but usually not always - check it. and are less expensive - always. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebs

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-05 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 02:24:06PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:56:12AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > the datasheets for the 40G drives are lost lost. > > Oh, come now! If you still know what make and model the drives are, the > datasheets are available online. >

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-05 Thread Vincent Hoffman
Gary Kline wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:33:20PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:19:31AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: I kep track on the load on my main server, and it is rarely above 0.20. If the load is a poor metric of power use, what is

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-05 Thread David Kelly
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:56:12AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > the datasheets for the 40G drives are lost lost. Oh, come now! If you still know what make and model the drives are, the datasheets are available online. -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-05 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:33:20PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:19:31AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > I kep track on the load on my main server, and it is rarely above > > 0.20. If the load is a poor metric of power use, what is > > better? (My new `Watt-

Re: general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-05 Thread David Kelly
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 11:19:31AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > I kep track on the load on my main server, and it is rarely above > 0.20. If the load is a poor metric of power use, what is > better? (My new `Watt-o-Meter' is checking the power right now, > but I would lik

general questions about 7.0 and computer efficiency......

2008-08-05 Thread Gary Kline
Folks, Actually, I have two 'general-computer' type questions, but it might be better to ask them in separate posts. First about FBSD (6.x or 7.x) and newer vs older computers. First, 7.0 seems as stable or more so than its predecessor. It may eve